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Link Posted: 7/18/2018 1:30:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Outrider:
Mind the gap.

New project underway.

http://i.imgur.com/O0kdebs.jpg?1
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I like where this is going.  Can we see more?
Link Posted: 7/18/2018 2:20:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HunterKiller86:

Awesome setup.

I wonder why Geissele doesn't make 1.93/2.04" 34mm mounts.
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Don’t know. Kac does tho
Link Posted: 7/19/2018 2:04:24 PM EST
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I was browsing back through my Gun Tests magazines from 2001 and saw this gem. Probably the earliest Reece (scopewise) setup I've ever seen, too  bad the mount was crazy high. Back in '01, $2300 for this would've been astronomical for me. Just thought I'd share.
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Link Posted: 7/21/2018 8:56:06 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/28/2018 2:28:16 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/29/2018 1:39:31 PM EST
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Finally finished my recce build.



https://www.instagram.com/korwerks/
Link Posted: 7/29/2018 2:05:27 PM EST
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Going to starr a build and was wondering when measuring the barrel is it to the tip of the actual barrel or to the end of whatever you have on the end, I.e. nuzzle brake, flash hider, etc?

many thanks
Link Posted: 7/29/2018 3:35:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By tuckerman725:
Going to starr a build and was wondering when measuring the barrel is it to the tip of the actual barrel or to the end of whatever you have on the end, I.e. nuzzle brake, flash hider, etc?

many thanks
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Legally or technically?

Legally would be the end of the MD (only if perm attached) or the crown if it's not perm'd. Technically would be at the crown regardless of MD.
Link Posted: 7/29/2018 7:15:20 PM EST
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Many thanks
Link Posted: 7/29/2018 9:31:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By boxcuta:
Finally finished my recce build.

https://s22.postimg.cc/z9cpr009d/unnamed.jpg

https://www.instagram.com/korwerks/
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What barrel size is that? Im got a similar setup
Link Posted: 7/30/2018 7:25:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SemperFortis202:

What barrel size is that? Im got a similar setup
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It's 16 inch, Micro MOA fluted.
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 2:09:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By tuckerman725:
Going to starr a build and was wondering when measuring the barrel is it to the tip of the actual barrel or to the end of whatever you have on the end, I.e. nuzzle brake, flash hider, etc?

many thanks
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The fuck is a nuzzle brake, and where can I get one!!!?
Link Posted: 8/1/2018 8:17:27 AM EST
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I used to feel like this gun needed a FF RAS, Ops Inc, and a NF 2.5-10 (and it would if I wanted to post it in the NSW thread)

But now, if it just had a MK16 instead of the MK2 and a mil-spec can...it'd be pretty close to something possibly used in the wild.

Link Posted: 8/4/2018 9:50:46 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/4/2018 8:26:52 PM EST
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Cool!
Link Posted: 8/4/2018 9:10:26 PM EST
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Looks great!
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 2:55:26 AM EST
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Barrel length?
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 6:03:55 AM EST
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Originally Posted By cdholmes:

Barrel length?
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15.1 ish. It’s the same barrel from my NSW chopped recce. The URX is a hair longer. I think the can may be touching the bottom URX rail but I confirmed full engagement of the collar with rail installed/removed.
Link Posted: 8/19/2018 2:14:31 PM EST
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Can someone explain why "profile" is considered so important when building a RECCE? I have a 16'' SS 1:7 twist pencil profile. My thought process was shave as much weight as possible for a "all-in-one" "recon" rifle. Unloaded, mine is 8 lbs. seems like one of the lightest ones on here, which in my eyes, sounds like the ideal recce. Does profile really effect accuracy? Does the barrel move around or something if it is thinner?
Link Posted: 8/19/2018 3:06:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Connex:
Can someone explain why "profile" is considered so important when building a RECCE? I have a 16'' SS 1:7 twist pencil profile. My thought process was shave as much weight as possible for a "all-in-one" "recon" rifle. Unloaded, mine is 8 lbs. seems like one of the lightest ones on here, which in my eyes, sounds like the ideal recce. Does profile really effect accuracy? Does the barrel move around or something if it is thinner?
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Heavier profile heats up slower.

I use a faxon gunner barrel in mine which I like for being mobile.  However it will be changed when I get a Supressor.
Link Posted: 8/19/2018 3:27:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Connex:
Can someone explain why "profile" is considered so important when building a RECCE? I have a 16'' SS 1:7 twist pencil profile. My thought process was shave as much weight as possible for a "all-in-one" "recon" rifle. Unloaded, mine is 8 lbs. seems like one of the lightest ones on here, which in my eyes, sounds like the ideal recce. Does profile really effect accuracy? Does the barrel move around or something if it is thinner?
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If you're hell bent on keeping a thin profile barrel and actually send rounds down the pipe I would suggest being ready to change out barrels more often. I've seen pencil pro barrels open up after relatively low round count. IIRC approx 1000 rds in. Another at 1100 and another at 1400 rds. All 55gr FMJ-BT brass cased without mag dumps but with heavier rate of fire. Semi auto, unsupressed.

Take it or leave it. Your mileage may vary and I believe some mfgs have better pencil barrels then others.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:47:52 AM EST
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Doublestar Arms make good pencils. ive been blowong through 55gr handloads on my 11.5, and its still very accurate to 300m with an eotech. groups tight!

pic thread.
Link Posted: 8/30/2018 12:40:55 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 5pt56:
If you're hell bent on keeping a thin profile barrel and actually send rounds down the pipe I would suggest being ready to change out barrels more often. I've seen pencil pro barrels open up after relatively low round count. IIRC approx 1000 rds in. Another at 1100 and another at 1400 rds. All 55gr FMJ-BT brass cased without mag dumps but with heavier rate of fire. Semi auto, unsupressed.

Take it or leave it. Your mileage may vary and I believe some mfgs have better pencil barrels then others.
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Originally Posted By 5pt56:
Originally Posted By Connex:
Can someone explain why "profile" is considered so important when building a RECCE? I have a 16'' SS 1:7 twist pencil profile. My thought process was shave as much weight as possible for a "all-in-one" "recon" rifle. Unloaded, mine is 8 lbs. seems like one of the lightest ones on here, which in my eyes, sounds like the ideal recce. Does profile really effect accuracy? Does the barrel move around or something if it is thinner?
If you're hell bent on keeping a thin profile barrel and actually send rounds down the pipe I would suggest being ready to change out barrels more often. I've seen pencil pro barrels open up after relatively low round count. IIRC approx 1000 rds in. Another at 1100 and another at 1400 rds. All 55gr FMJ-BT brass cased without mag dumps but with heavier rate of fire. Semi auto, unsupressed.

Take it or leave it. Your mileage may vary and I believe some mfgs have better pencil barrels then others.
I have been shooting lw barrels extensively for about 3 years now with probably 4k rds through 2 bcm lw 14.5”. No noticeable loss in accuracy, both shoot 69gr bthp about 1.5-2” groups and have since day one.

Also, a large north Texas swat team has utilized 11.5” LW barrels for years with accuracy degrading at the same rate as the government profiles. Way more than 1k rounds....

Eta: all the LW barrels i have experience with are cold hammer forged and chrome lined.
A LW stainless barrel would probably suffer far greater in the accuracy department if heated up regularly
Link Posted: 8/30/2018 9:11:24 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MrWhite227D:

I have been shooting lw barrels extensively for about 3 years now with probably 4k rds through 2 bcm lw 14.5”. No noticeable loss in accuracy, both shoot 69gr bthp about 1.5-2” groups and have since day one.

Also, a large north Texas swat team has utilized 11.5” LW barrels for years with accuracy degrading at the same rate as the government profiles. Way more than 1k rounds....

Eta: all the LW barrels i have experience with are cold hammer forged and chrome lined.
A LW stainless barrel would probably suffer far greater in the accuracy department if heated up regularly
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Thanks for adding some additional context! And I should have specified in my post that these were not CHF barrels and that it was back when LW barrels just started being prevalent in the market and before the big name mfgs released theirs. And they were used in heavy contact drills and run pretty hard.

I thought that better branded barrels would hold up more significantly such as BCM( CHF) so it's really good to hear your confirmation! I appreciate it and think I'll give one of the chrome CHF ones a try. I have a VLTOR  VIS-1 that needs completed.
Link Posted: 8/30/2018 9:32:21 AM EST
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Lightweight/pencil barrels have come a long way in recent years.  Proper heat treat and stress relief in particular minimize stringing in modern pencil barrels.

The InrangeTV guys did a nice video comparing an original Colt SP-1 with a Faxon pencil barrel and how heating them up affects accuracy and precision:

WWSD: Pencil barrel Stress & Heat Zero Testing
Link Posted: 8/30/2018 5:38:47 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/31/2018 8:38:19 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/2/2018 3:36:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
Lightweight/pencil barrels have come a long way in recent years.  Proper heat treat and stress relief in particular minimize stringing in modern pencil barrels.

The InrangeTV guys did a nice video comparing an original Colt SP-1 with a Faxon pencil barrel and how heating them up affects accuracy and precision:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTovPt4weIs
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I always thought the "white guy voice" was forced until I watched that vid.  LOL.

Cheers
Link Posted: 9/5/2018 7:35:09 PM EST
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I have rifles with faxon 16" pencil and DD .625 (the old style gas journal).  Both are impressively accurate.  i may even pull the SS10x from my .308 just to test each next range day.
Link Posted: 9/12/2018 1:50:54 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/12/2018 8:41:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By emtothedee:
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Need moar pics
Link Posted: 9/12/2018 10:12:31 AM EST
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Interesting rifle seent on IG

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Link Posted: 9/12/2018 12:51:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By stagepaint:
Interesting rifle seent on IG

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/219864/recce-669135.JPG
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What rail is that?
Link Posted: 9/12/2018 1:00:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cone256:

What rail is that?
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Looks like a Noveske NSR.
Link Posted: 9/12/2018 1:05:49 PM EST
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Looks to be complete rifle N6
Link Posted: 9/12/2018 4:12:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cone256:

What rail is that?
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noveske
Link Posted: 9/12/2018 5:36:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cjwwd2:
Looks to be complete rifle N6
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i think if it was an N6 the receivers would look different, and longer.
Looks like their NSR m-lok handguard at the very least.
Link Posted: 9/12/2018 6:18:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sevin8nin:

i think if it was an N6 the receivers would look different, and longer.
Looks like their NSR m-lok handguard at the very least.
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I agree with the NSR mlok rail.

Link Posted: 9/12/2018 6:55:24 PM EST
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Edit: pic size
Link Posted: 9/13/2018 1:57:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Connex:
Can someone explain why "profile" is considered so important when building a RECCE? I have a 16'' SS 1:7 twist pencil profile. My thought process was shave as much weight as possible for a "all-in-one" "recon" rifle. Unloaded, mine is 8 lbs. seems like one of the lightest ones on here, which in my eyes, sounds like the ideal recce. Does profile really effect accuracy? Does the barrel move around or something if it is thinner?
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Stiff barrels tend to be more accurate.  Larger diameter makes a barrel stiffer.  Also, the larger the diameter, the slower it heats up, reducing potential change in point of impact.

The true "Recce" barrel is a hybrid designed by NSWC Crane for use by Navy SEALS.  It is heavy and larger diameter under the hand guard to the gas block (.975" taper to .850") but more like a gov profile diameter from the block shoulder forward (.750" to .725").  This makes it stiff, but still relatively light at about 2.2 pounds.  A match grade stainless barrel in this profile can be spooky accurate and still a reasonable weight.  As built by Lilja,  mine is sub 1/2 MOA capable with carefully worked up match ammo.  Wylde chamber, 1:8 twist, 416 stainless, hand lapped.  Here is a photo as received before I installed it.

Link Posted: 9/13/2018 4:46:13 PM EST
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Brace yourself for California mods
Link Posted: 9/13/2018 5:08:04 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/13/2018 6:03:55 PM EST
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LMT Mars lower? I think that's the next lower I'm buying. Nice.
Link Posted: 9/13/2018 6:31:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By stagepaint:  
LMT Mars lower? I think that's the next lower I'm buying. Nice.
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Originally Posted By stagepaint:
LMT Mars lower? I think that's the next lower I'm buying. Nice.
Thank you stagepaint.

It is a MARS-LS with a few non-LMT items on it.

Geissele SD-E
KAC triggerguard
VLTOR 5 position RE
T2 buffer
TD pistol grip

It just came home with me today
Link Posted: 9/30/2018 5:06:52 PM EST
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So, this is what I’ve got coming down the pipe.

I’m planning to “improve” my current rifle. Right now, it’s a Spike’s 16” upper, gov’t profile bbl, free-floated barrel with a Leupold VX-R 1.25-4 in an ADM mount. A1 stock.

On order, I have This barrel and I also jumped into the NFA game and ordered an AAC M4-2000 suppressor just today.

Any suggestions for improvements? I’m keeping the existing handguard (MI) but will be changing it out in the future as funds permit.

ETA: pic of the rifle as it was:

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Link Posted: 10/4/2018 9:50:54 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/5/2018 11:51:41 AM EST
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hit 600 yards using the ACSS 1-6 this past weekend. Shooting Magtech 77gr 556  but I think this lot was a little slower than previous lots. Had to use about a 650yard hold to hit a 12inch plate

Link Posted: 10/12/2018 2:09:12 PM EST
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Cheers
Link Posted: 10/12/2018 2:31:04 PM EST
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Magpul bipod?
Link Posted: 10/12/2018 2:51:05 PM EST
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crappy pictures, but at least the rifle is ready for pigs this weekend.
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