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4/7/2026 8:36:03 AM EDT
Looks like someone figured it out.
MARS FRT TRIGGER FOR THE RUGER 10/22


$289.
https://marstrigger.com/1022-f-r-t
4/7/2026 8:49:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FlyLeaf][Edited] [#1]
I want to believe

Pics of what it looks like

https://www.opticsplanet.com/mars-trigger-ruger-10-22-adjustable-frt-trigger.html?srsltid=AfmBOorV75JLDtuohdWTIcR0Korb-dq16ewevPKiUXOD8-Qr-ZllIKEP
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4/7/2026 9:22:47 AM EDT
[#2]
Already a couple topics on this trigger exactly.

I will believe it when I see several working in the wild, this isn’t the first 10/22 FRT that has been advertised.
And there are several problems to overcome, I am hoping that MARS has been successful but I am not willing to gamble almost 300 yet that they have.

I would also like to see a 3 position FRT for the 10/22.

One of the many problems as detailed in the other threads, is that the 10/22 has considerable bolt bounce.  Not a problem in a slow rate of fire, but if you look at the Norrel transferable full auto 10/22 trigger packs, they included a free weight in the bolt to act as a dead blow to tame bolt bounce.

I suspect that the same will be needed for a functioning FRT in the 10/22
4/7/2026 9:35:13 AM EDT
[#3]
A guy at our Gun Club brought a TX22 with an FRT and extended mags to the range and I got to shoot it.

I must say, as somebody that actually owns a transferable machine gun… I have no idea how all these new 22LR+FRT set ups aren’t actually machine guns… but I like it.

I really kind of wanna buy one, but then I’d feel like I’m cheating on my machine gun - LOL.
4/7/2026 9:41:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FlyLeaf][Edited] [#4]
I would imagine a damn good buffer at rear of receiver or it will take a beating real quick
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4/7/2026 9:42:08 AM EDT
[#5]
Huh?!!?? This is legal?   No way...   please explain.


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4/7/2026 9:54:45 AM EDT
[#6]
Some info here
4/7/2026 9:58:07 AM EDT
[#7]
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Originally Posted By AdLucem:
Huh?!!?? This is legal?   No way...   please explain.


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You must be new to this area of the forum…

Yes FRT’s or forced reset triggers are currently legal.  

Lots of information out there about why.
4/7/2026 10:02:44 AM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By Hawkdawg:
Some info here
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That video makes it look like those are just a modified version of the other L shaped Key chain that Deez nutz and several others were selling as a 10/22 FRT

I am still skeptical, would love to see it work, but skeptical.
4/7/2026 10:38:19 AM EDT
[#9]
22Plinkster has a video short on this product. He was impressed with it so far. Only reason I haven’t ordered is it’s not a three position.
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4/7/2026 10:57:32 AM EDT
[#10]
I wonder if you could install a ball detent in the receiver similar to what I did on my M-16 22 conversion kit to minimize bounce?
4/7/2026 12:13:08 PM EDT
[#11]
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Originally Posted By jduke:



That video makes it look like those are just a modified version of the other L shaped Key chain that Deez nutz and several others were selling as a 10/22 FRT

I am still skeptical, would love to see it work, but skeptical.
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I would also like to know how they deal with the effect of drag on the bolt motion when the device is pressed down by the bolt and your trying to push it up with the trigger?
4/7/2026 12:38:55 PM EDT
[#12]
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Originally Posted By ARKAR:
22Plinkster has a video short on this product. He was impressed with it so far. Only reason I haven’t ordered is it’s not a three position.
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Yeah definitely want a 3 position
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4/7/2026 1:33:11 PM EDT
[#13]
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Originally Posted By ARKAR:
22Plinkster has a video short on this product. He was impressed with it so far. Only reason I haven't ordered is it's not a three position.
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This.

I don't want a gun that I can't choose to shoot semi.

I'm glad these are working for folks that want them.  But they need a way to be turned on and off.
4/7/2026 1:47:13 PM EDT
[#14]
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Originally Posted By Jambalaya:
This.

I don't want a gun that I can't choose to shoot semi.

I'm glad these are working for folks that want them.  But they need a way to be turned on and off.
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I assume taking my finger off the trigger would work.
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4/7/2026 3:59:42 PM EDT
[#15]
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Originally Posted By jduke:



You must be new to this area of the forum…

Yes FRT’s or forced reset triggers are currently legal.  

Lots of information out there about why.
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Originally Posted By jduke:
Originally Posted By AdLucem:
Huh?!!?? This is legal?   No way...   please explain.





You must be new to this area of the forum…

Yes FRT’s or forced reset triggers are currently legal.  

Lots of information out there about why.


New to Rate of Fire Triggers yes...   Probably b/c they are illegal in my AO



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4/7/2026 4:01:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jambalaya][Edited] [#16]
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Originally Posted By Steamedliver:


I assume taking my finger off the trigger would work.
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You aren't getting consistent, reliable singles out of an FRT while also being able to keep a steady sight picture.
4/7/2026 4:02:45 PM EDT
[#17]
I learned my lesson with that first 10/22 FRT that’s just a bag of crap parts.
4/7/2026 5:29:55 PM EDT
[#18]
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Originally Posted By civic96hb:
I learned my lesson with that first 10/22 FRT that’s just a bag of crap parts.
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Are you referring to the Mars, or..........?
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4/7/2026 7:20:48 PM EDT
[#19]
Originally Posted By Ruckus:


Are you referring to the Mars, or..........?
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I’m pretty sure he’s referring to the ART that was a scam FRT for the 10/22.
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4/7/2026 7:30:36 PM EDT
[#20]
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Originally Posted By civic96hb:
I learned my lesson with that first 10/22 FRT that’s just a bag of crap parts.
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I had a franklin armory binary for 10/22.
It sucked balls
Hope this one is better
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4/7/2026 11:32:41 PM EDT
[#21]
I ordered one, and will report back once it arrives. Planning to get a couple screw in detents in case bolt bounce is an issue.
4/7/2026 11:38:06 PM EDT
[#22]
Mine said it would ship early April but no shipping yet… I emailed the requesting an update.  Hopefully soon.
4/7/2026 11:51:13 PM EDT
[#23]
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Originally Posted By FlyLeaf:

I had a franklin armory binary for 10/22.
It sucked balls
Hope this one is better
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I had a Franklin Binary that worked surprisingly well (for what it does) in an 22 AR conversion.  It was possible to outrun the bolt, but if you kept a steady cadence it would shoot pretty fast.  

They are pretty lame compared to FRTs, but in a world before FRTs they were better than nothing.
4/8/2026 9:11:44 AM EDT
[#24]
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Originally Posted By AdLucem:


New to Rate of Fire Triggers yes...   Probably b/c they are illegal in my AO



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you would know these things ..
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4/8/2026 9:35:53 AM EDT
[#25]
My buddy was an early pre-order.

We dropped it in his gun and it manually functioned extremely well without any fitting or filing.

Live fire didn’t go well.  It was mainly short recoil stroke and the accompanying FTE malfs.  This happened regardless of ammo or how lightly we tried to pull the trigger

Very disappointing.  We’re going to try a different (longer) barrel and polishing the lever next

Hopefully there will be more shoot reports from others soon
4/8/2026 10:48:29 AM EDT
[#26]
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Originally Posted By FlyLeaf:

I had a franklin armory binary for 10/22.
It sucked balls
Hope this one is better
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I had the same results. POS now sits in the parts box.
4/8/2026 12:52:41 PM EDT
[#27]
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Originally Posted By Jambalaya:
You aren't getting consistent, reliable singles out of an FRT while also being able to keep a steady sight picture.
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I know this isn’t GD.

You are using words like consistent and reliable with a 10/22 FRT.    

Have 2 firearms, one standard trigger and another with the FRT.   Thats where it is right now.
Words fall from your mouth like shit from ass.
4/8/2026 1:11:23 PM EDT
[#28]
Originally Posted By Alaska-Shooter:
My buddy was an early pre-order.

We dropped it in his gun and it manually functioned extremely well without any fitting or filing.

Live fire didn’t go well.  It was mainly short recoil stroke and the accompanying FTE malfs.  This happened regardless of ammo or how lightly we tried to pull the trigger

Very disappointing.  We’re going to try a different (longer) barrel and polishing the lever next

Hopefully there will be more shoot reports from others soon
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There is an instructional video on YouTube. Did you watch it?

Mars Triggers 10-22 FRT tuning "Verbal Instruction"
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4/8/2026 3:48:13 PM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By Alaska-Shooter:
My buddy was an early pre-order.

We dropped it in his gun and it manually functioned extremely well without any fitting or filing.

Live fire didn’t go well.  It was mainly short recoil stroke and the accompanying FTE malfs.  This happened regardless of ammo or how lightly we tried to pull the trigger

Very disappointing.  We’re going to try a different (longer) barrel and polishing the lever next

Hopefully there will be more shoot reports from others soon
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This is exactly what I expected to be one of the many problems with an FRT in the 10/22.
They barely function as is and adding any drag to the bolt is going to require modification, maybe a light Mosquito bolt from volquartsen but then you introduce other problems.

4/8/2026 5:49:09 PM EDT
[#30]
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Originally Posted By ARKAR:


There is an instructional video on YouTube. Did you watch it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etVVmopaB9M
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Originally Posted By ARKAR:
Originally Posted By Alaska-Shooter:
My buddy was an early pre-order.

We dropped it in his gun and it manually functioned extremely well without any fitting or filing.

Live fire didn’t go well.  It was mainly short recoil stroke and the accompanying FTE malfs.  This happened regardless of ammo or how lightly we tried to pull the trigger

Very disappointing.  We’re going to try a different (longer) barrel and polishing the lever next

Hopefully there will be more shoot reports from others soon


There is an instructional video on YouTube. Did you watch it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etVVmopaB9M


Watching that video on tuning with a dremel grinding bit - that's a big pass for me. Aka no I will not be buying a Mars FRT trigger.
4/8/2026 6:35:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Alaska-Shooter][Edited] [#31]
The bolt doesn’t get stuck which is what seems to be primarily addressed in the video.  

We’ll try polishing the lever first and also putting a longer barrel on which should help with back pressure.  The current barrel we tried is integrally suppressed.  It works in semi but maybe the integral is robbing enough energy to not let the FRT work

More to follow
4/8/2026 7:38:31 PM EDT
[#32]
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Originally Posted By Alaska-Shooter:  The bolt doesn’t get stuck which is what seems to be primarily addressed in the video.  

We’ll try polishing the lever first and also putting a longer barrel on which should help with back pressure.  The current barrel we tried is integrally suppressed.  It works in semi but maybe the integral is robbing enough energy to not let the FRT work

More to follow
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 The integrally suppressed barrel should produce more backpressure, not less, unless it's vented to run cheap bulk subsonically.
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4/9/2026 4:39:43 PM EDT
[#33]
I think it’s barrel ported to reduce velocity but it’s not my gun so I’m not 100% on that
4/9/2026 10:00:57 PM EDT
[#34]
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Originally Posted By Steamedliver:


I know this isn't GD.

You are using words like consistent and reliable with a 10/22 FRT.    

Have 2 firearms, one standard trigger and another with the FRT.   Thats where it is right now.
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Originally Posted By Steamedliver:
Originally Posted By Jambalaya:
You aren't getting consistent, reliable singles out of an FRT while also being able to keep a steady sight picture.


I know this isn't GD.

You are using words like consistent and reliable with a 10/22 FRT.    

Have 2 firearms, one standard trigger and another with the FRT.   Thats where it is right now.
Sure.

I still only care about and want 3 position FRTs.   I have tried shooting singles in the third position and it is *possible*, but not while trying to aim precisely.

I get that probably 99% of people will use these as range toy bullet hoses.  That's my use case as well.  But I also want to be able to use the same guns for aimed, precise shots without having to disassemble them and install or remove parts.

For those who don't care about that amd just want to make noise and grin while burning ammo, I'm glad these exist as an option.
4/9/2026 10:39:17 PM EDT
[#35]
Anyone know what stock he's got on that 10/22?
4/12/2026 3:14:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Alaska-Shooter][Edited] [#36]
My buddy polished the top of the FRT lever.  That resolved the short stroke related problems.  

With mini-mags he’s now getting bolt home, live round in the chamber, and hammer down.

This is probably the dreaded bolt bounce.  He’ll next try different ammo to see if he can magically get the bounce timing right

If that doesn’t work then we’ll try putting my Norrell bolt in
4/12/2026 5:10:46 PM EDT
[#37]
Hard pass.

I want a drop in, shoot and go trigger group with 3 selectors.
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4/21/2026 2:21:13 PM EDT
[#38]
Anyone else get one of these triggers? I still think bolt bounce would be a problem.
4/21/2026 3:12:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HKH][Edited] [#39]
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Originally Posted By Polarbear31:
Anyone else get one of these triggers? I still think bolt bounce would be a problem.
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I ordered one and it was supposed to be 1st April now it’s mid April which has passed and those jack wagons won’t answer an email or an instagram message.  I’ll give them a bit more and charge that shit back.  I’m ok with the wait but f-off if you won’t answer an email or gram message in a month.
4/21/2026 5:45:55 PM EDT
[#40]
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"Estimated to ship by October 2026"  That is so on-brand for Optics Planet.
4/26/2026 1:09:48 AM EDT
[#41]
Well holy cow.  I received a shipping notification that my mars trigger is on the way.  

I’ve got a paclite 10/22 and I bought my boy one of those trump fight, fight, fight rifles from psa a while back.  I want a shorty like a charger with folding brace / stock.  Where can you get something like that.  If it’s an sbr I’d prefer it as they transfer so much quicker these days.
4/26/2026 7:46:20 AM EDT
[#42]
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Originally Posted By HKH:
Well holy cow.  I received a shipping notification that my mars trigger is on the way.  

I’ve got a paclite 10/22 and I bought my boy one of those trump fight, fight, fight rifles from psa a while back.  I want a shorty like a charger with folding brace / stock.  Where can you get something like that.  If it’s an sbr I’d prefer it as they transfer so much quicker these days.
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Straight from Ruger?
https://www.ruger.com/products/1022sbr/models.html
4/26/2026 12:25:25 PM EDT
[#43]
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Originally Posted By HammerTech:


Straight from Ruger?
https://www.ruger.com/products/1022sbr/models.html
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Hey man I did see that and I like it (and the price lol).  But I was looking for a custom builder.  Think A-Team stainless Mini14 look.

Doesn’t have to be perfect, just kind of have that feel.  Integral suppression a plus.  I’m not in the 10/22 scene so I’m not familiar if there are smiths out there that specialize in that kind of thing.
4/26/2026 7:57:44 PM EDT
[#44]
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Originally Posted By HKH:

Hey man I did see that and I like it (and the price lol).  But I was looking for a custom builder.  Think A-Team stainless Mini14 look.

Doesn’t have to be perfect, just kind of have that feel.  Integral suppression a plus.  I’m not in the 10/22 scene so I’m not familiar if there are smiths out there that specialize in that kind of thing.
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10/22's are so simple to work on, a smith really isn't necessary. Stock like this?

https://www.samson-mfg.com/b-tm-folding-stock-for-the-ruger-1022.html

Volquartsen stainless barreled action

https://volquartsen.com/products/1055-rifle-with-stainless-action/configure

Or a stock Ruger carbine, take out the action and add an AB Suppressor MELB barrel

https://www.cabelas.com/p/Ruger-1022-Carbine-Semi-Auto-Rimfire-Rifle

https://www.absuppressor.com/melb

I found a gunshow Charger and put this one together in a few minutes after the paperwork cleared



4/26/2026 10:34:34 PM EDT
[#45]
@HKH

Roll your own.  Just get a ruger charger and whatever stock or chassis you want.  Im gonna get one of those FRTs and throw it in this:







Incidentally- The MARS 10/22 frt looks just about identical to an earlier iteration of a 10/22 frt I was working on.  Never could get it to run- it just passed the basic function test.  I have a newer iteration that is more robust and uses better mechanical advantage than the MARS design, but it would be harder to manufacture.  Im guessing they just played with hammer and recoil springs to get the timing right for the hammer hitting the firing pin right before the bolt bounce begins.  I never overcame the bolt bounce, and kinda want to try their spring set with my trigger design.  Mine is based on a ruger BX drop-in trigger housing, uses a propriatery trigger and few other parts though.  And you lose the bolt lock feature.
4/26/2026 11:44:52 PM EDT
[#46]
@hitchhiker

Can you walk us thru what exact parts you have on that bad boy?  Looks like a Choate folder with a custom stock swapped in, plus a 3D printed front end?

I want a stock like that….

And I want a working 10/22 FRT!
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4/27/2026 12:10:37 AM EDT
[#47]
@tac556

Choate side folder, but I cut the original stock off of it and welded a type 56 ak style stock onto the stub left over from the cut.  Stock was scavenged from a paintball gun conversion kit (I am a mad scientist by the way) other mod to the choate I did was replace the hinge pin with a slightly larger dowel pin for a firmer lockup.  Stock feels welded in place in both the open and closed position.  Zero wobble.

Barrel is custom, 4.5”ish in length turned down to fit a nodak spud front sight to match the nodak rear sight and rail.  You cant see it in the pics but in the front sight there is a tritium front sight post from an AR if I remember correctly.  

The foregrip is a design I came up with and 3d printed in PPA-CF.  The suppresor is a form 1 I did years ago, and mounts to the barrel with a griffin armament tri-lug adapter.  Im switching from tri-lug to cam-lok though, because the tri-lug locking system gets fouled up quickly with lead and doesnt lock as tight as I want it, and Im afraid of a baffle strike.

It is my very favorite gun.  Sounds like a gas blowback airsoft gun, and has about that same recoil too.  It needs an FRT.

Heres the barrel and foregrip group:



4/27/2026 12:45:08 AM EDT
[#48]
Very cool- thought the stock looked familiar.  Guess I should keep my eye out for one of those chinese air rifle stocks.  

Have my 10/22 Form 1 in hand and approved, just need to get working on it.
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4/27/2026 4:13:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HKH][Edited] [#49]
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Originally Posted By hitchhiker:
@HKH

Roll your own.  Just get a ruger charger and whatever stock or chassis you want.  Im gonna get one of those FRTs and throw it in this:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61689/IMG_9120-3570855.jpg

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61689/IMG_9118-3570858.jpg

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61689/IMG_9117-3570859.jpg

Incidentally- The MARS 10/22 frt looks just about identical to an earlier iteration of a 10/22 frt I was working on.  Never could get it to run- it just passed the basic function test.  I have a newer iteration that is more robust and uses better mechanical advantage than the MARS design, but it would be harder to manufacture.  Im guessing they just played with hammer and recoil springs to get the timing right for the hammer hitting the firing pin right before the bolt bounce begins.  I never overcame the bolt bounce, and kinda want to try their spring set with my trigger design.  Mine is based on a ruger BX drop-in trigger housing, uses a propriatery trigger and few other parts though.  And you lose the bolt lock feature.
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Dude that is awesome.  I’m digging the stock and sights.  That’s probably beyond my scope to build unfortunately.
4/29/2026 1:48:46 PM EDT
[#50]
"Incidentally- The MARS 10/22 frt looks just about identical to an earlier iteration of a 10/22 frt I was working on.  Never could get it to run- it just passed the basic function test.  I have a newer iteration that is more robust and uses better mechanical advantage than the MARS design, but it would be harder to manufacture.  Im guessing they just played with hammer and recoil springs to get the timing right for the hammer hitting the firing pin right before the bolt bounce begins.  I never overcame the bolt bounce, and kinda want to try their spring set with my trigger design.  Mine is based on a ruger BX drop-in trigger housing, uses a propriatery trigger and few other parts though.  And you lose the bolt lock feature."

The MARS trigger does look similar to what I was designing.  It looks like the MARS resets the trigger on the counter recoil of the bolt. Is this correct?

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