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4/14/2026 11:14:34 AM EDT
The setup:
Stag Arms factory AR10 in .308 with 16in barrel and mid gas, collapsible stock with standard short AR10 buffer and standard AR10 buffer spring. Standard BCG and Q Trash Panda suppressor.

Modifications: Superlative Arms adjustable gas block.

On the 4th click out from fully closed/restricted, it runs reliably with supersonic and locks back on empty mag every time. Swap ammo to subsonic and it won't even eject the spent case when gas block is fully open (18 clicks from closed). Undergassed.

I don't want to open the gas port. What are my options if any? Am I being realistic to want it to function with subs and supers?

Thanks
4/14/2026 11:22:25 AM EDT
[#1]
Yes, definitely unrealistic. If you want to shoot .30 subsonic and have it still be reliable, .300blk is the way to go. If you’re insistent on .308 subsonic, then either accept that it won’t cycle or run it in a bolt gun.
4/14/2026 11:27:44 AM EDT
[#2]
Get it working with subs and supers wont be an issue.
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4/14/2026 11:38:53 AM EDT
[#3]
You’d probably have to run a lightweight carrier to even have a hope of locking back.
4/14/2026 12:27:52 PM EDT
[#4]
The way it sounds you fully closed the gas block then opened it in steps until the bolt reliably locked back.  That's fine for supers but not going to work with subs.  Find the setting that works with subs and adjust the gas block to what you're shooting.
4/14/2026 1:41:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ScoutH57][Edited] [#5]
What subsonic .308 Win ammo are you trying to use? Not all propellants are equal.


But yeah I've been down this road, you can open the actual gas port some and may get it to work and then dial it back down with the adjustable block with supers. They make reduced power springs that can help too but usually not great with supers.


In my opinion you aren't going to find a happy medium where it runs subs and supers with actual reliability without having to make adjustments etc.
4/16/2026 9:10:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Atropian_Defector][Edited] [#6]
Originally Posted By semperfiws6:

I don't want to open the gas port want to do the correct thing to get it to work.

Thanks
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fixed it for you.. can't fix an undergassed gun with lightweight parts/buffers/springs and not expect it to tear itself apart with supers. What's the point of even having an adjustable gas block then when the gas you're adjusting isn't enough to be adjusted to begin with?

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