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Posted: 4/4/2024 7:03:06 PM EDT
Recently purchased a PSA 16" upper. Received it today and found that the barrel is marked "5.56 NATO 1/7 FREEDOM" Their web-site ad for this upper didn't/doesn't mention that the barrel is a FREEDOM barrel. I'm somewhat concerned and would like some thoughts about these barrels. The gun will be used mostly for range shooting.
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The gun will be used mostly for range shooting. View Quote With what optic? Unless you are wanting to shoot 2" clusters @ 300 yards I think you will be fine, and it might even do that. |
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I haven't bought a PSA barrel in a few years. The one I had was excellent as far as accuracy/consistency (16inch). No longer own it. The 10.5 I own is good. Haven't had any issues with my two (very low round counts).
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Just fine for range work and 99% of civilian purposes. Their biggest shortcoming is simply barrel life as compared to other manufacturers. Shoot it until the groups open up and then replace it with something better. If you run your guns, bolts and barrels are consumables regardless of who made them.
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People will say the barrel life isn't as good as premium barrels - You can buy two PSA freedom uppers for less than premium barrel - get more life out of those as well.
I have good Hammer forged barrels and premium names but generally my PSA cheap guns get lots of trigger time and shoot as good as the "better names. Longevity wise only time will tell but like I said I can buy two for the price of one premium - in fact I often do! |
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As with any barrel, if you don't heat it up too much with rapid fire, it will generally last longer. |
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If I'm not mistaken, GarandThumb did a torture test involving a Freedom barreled PSA upper and a full auto lower. 6000 round through it before it started losing accuracy.
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lazyengineer got 11K out of his Freedom 10.5" before it started keyholing.
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Originally Posted By doom1430: If I'm not mistaken, GarandThumb did a torture test involving a Freedom barreled PSA upper and a full auto lower. 6000 round through it before it started losing accuracy. Video View Quote Having said that, I got a blem premium upper from them with a FN CHF 16" middy barrel for $320 a couple months ago. So for just a little more you can get a much nicer barrel. |
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Originally Posted By doom1430: If I'm not mistaken, GarandThumb did a torture test involving a Freedom barreled PSA upper and a full auto lower. 6000 round through it before it started losing accuracy. Video View Quote |
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What are you "somewhat concerned" about, OP? These are good barrels for the money. They're just good barrels.
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Originally Posted By Copter: Recently purchased a PSA 16" upper. Received it today and found that the barrel is marked "5.56 NATO 1/7 FREEDOM" Their web-site ad for this upper didn't/doesn't mention that the barrel is a FREEDOM barrel. I'm somewhat concerned and would like some thoughts about these barrels. The gun will be used mostly for range shooting. View Quote Buy your next barrel and a new bolt now, holding them in reserve for the day your current barrel gives up the ghost. Then ride your Freedom barrel like a mail order Russian bride. Cheap barrels don't deserve respect or babying. I use chrome lined barrels for CQC type shooting, high volume and fast. Cheap bullets belong in cheap barrels. I reserve accuracy shooting to premium bullets in premium barrels. |
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Good guns for just plinking around. Pretty sure most of us have better guns for serious business.
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With the price of ammunition these days I am pretty sure I won’t be shooting out any barrels soon.
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I’ve had a few freedom uppers and kit guns I built and all but one was fine. I had one of PSA’s cheap 16” uppers with a FF rail. I think it is a Freedom. Anyways, first trip out and it was key holing every single round at 50yds. I shit you not, every major brand of 55 and 62gr I brought with me. I’ve never seen anything like it. It was a PITA to get it sent back to them but they eventually confirmed everything and put a new barrel on for me and made it right. Luckily I didn’t have my suppressor on it as it was just going to be a loaner, tractor, truck, trunk gun with no intentions of using suppressed. I still need to shoot new bbl and re-zero and I still will buy their cheap stuff but ain’t going to count on any of it for serious stuff unless I absolutely had to.
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PSA has been consistently one if the worst barrels for accuracy I have seen. The fact the barrel in the garand thumb video started out so good was shocking to me. Truly, that was a rare gem they burned up. I have never seen a PSA barrel even shoot sub 2 MOA.
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If it's got 'nitride' in the name, it's decent. PSA comes in a few tiers; Phosphate Nitride and Premium. Not that one is necessarily better than the others, but anything nitride will run and take some hard use.
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Originally Posted By battlemidget: If it's got 'nitride' in the name, it's decent. PSA comes in a few tiers; Phosphate Nitride and Premium. Not that one is necessarily better than the others, but anything nitride will run and take some hard use. View Quote My 5.56 precision AR has a PSA nitride barrel. The best I got was .52" ten round groups. .6-.65" ten round groups with 77 gr. Sierra Tipped Match King reloads is typical, mostly because I'm not the most patient shooter these days. I wouldn't go out an buy a PSA barrel specifically, but it's nice to know they're good stuff. All my PSA barrels have shot MOA or better. |
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PSA classifies by Furniture.
Classic is basic or cheaper furniture. Freedom is usually Magpul based. Sabre line has a mix including B5. Barrels on classic and freedom are both made by DC Machine, which is PSA's sister company and barrel shop. They make good stuff. Freedom may designate a nitride finish over phosphate. Premium barrels are the FN CHF barrels. |
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