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5/29/2009 4:14:43 PM EDT
Anyone have any news on there 9mm mp5k clone that they are going to be bringing in?
Any pics?
5/29/2009 5:39:17 PM EDT
[#1]
I don't see that happening.
5/30/2009 12:48:20 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
I don't see that happening.


What are you referring to? There being any new news?
5/30/2009 1:17:23 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I don't see that happening.


What are you referring to? There being any new news?


The fact that there isn't one? Nor ever will be? Where have you heard ANYTHING in regards to this?
5/30/2009 4:18:20 AM EDT
[#4]
I seem to remember a post where someone said they saw a working prototype at the NRA show.  I am probably wrong but I thought so.

MadDog
5/30/2009 4:30:53 AM EDT
[#5]
Actually....this is real.

We have several different caliber prototypes in the country now for T & E, both by us and the ATF.  This is all still in the very early stages of testing, modification and approval so not really a whole lot to go wth right now.  We're big into diversity right now.  If you went to the NRA show in Phoenix and stopped by our booth then you did in fact see these guns.  We had them with us because it was impossible to pass up the chance to shoot them at the Scottsdale Gun Club while we knew we would be in the area.  We're working on a 9mm semi-auto pistol, 9mm carbine, .223 carbine and (my baby, sigh) a .308 carbine.  The protos looked a little rough for sure, but they worked great.  For the present thats about as much information as I have to give on these.  They may never see the light of day, who knows, it's up to the ATF.  But, if we can import them, we most certianly will.  Considering the volume of people who played with them at the NRA show I'm comfortable giving out that much info on these potential new products.  More to come in the near future.  It all amounts to so many people asking when we will offer different caliburs, we listen to the feedback.  These are not GSGs mind you, these are coming from Turkey.  Until I have more defined info though that's all I can give you guys.
5/30/2009 5:16:29 AM EDT
[#6]
Sometimes it's good to be wrong
5/30/2009 6:00:47 AM EDT
[#7]
Hmmmm, well I'm waiting...  I am like 100% sure I pick up atleast one when they get approved and are available...  If not, one of each!  
5/30/2009 6:35:36 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Sometimes it's good to be wrong


Definately.

This is the first I've heard of this, and even better that it's from ATI directly.

Will this be like a SP89 pistol, or MP5 Carbine?
5/30/2009 8:37:42 AM EDT
[#9]
Looking forward to these. The Mp5 platform is one of my favorites.

I come from Turkey too haha
5/30/2009 9:02:57 AM EDT
[#10]
What kind of price range?
5/30/2009 9:11:31 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I don't see that happening.


What are you referring to? There being any new news?


The fact that there isn't one? Nor ever will be? Where have you heard ANYTHING in regards to this?


The horses mouth.
5/30/2009 3:29:40 PM EDT
[#12]
Well, that just means the quest for every caliber has begun...
5/31/2009 9:18:03 AM EDT
[#13]
I'm all for that, I think the market for HK type weapons has been cornered for way too long. It would be awesome to see some others to chose from.
5/31/2009 11:00:53 AM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:

...We're working on a 9mm semi-auto pistol, 9mm carbine, .223 carbine and (my baby, sigh) a .308 carbine.  


This is awesome news!
Been waiting for someone to finally bring a out a good MP5 clone, unlike Coharie's junk. Hopefully yours will fill that void.
5/31/2009 12:13:29 PM EDT
[#15]
I'd be all over a reasonably priced and well functioning 9mm HK clone.





Could it be sear ready?



 
5/31/2009 3:46:38 PM EDT
[#16]
.223 carbine would make me quite happy.
6/1/2009 5:32:44 AM EDT
[#17]
Here are the pics you originally wanted to see. This is a modded version of the handout we had at NRA, I just dropped out all the pricing and stuff because that is of course subject to change. Still, this will give you a good look at the proto models. Pricing in general will be between 1 and 2k depending on the model. Again, like Christopher said, there is still no guarantee on these guns as they will be at the ATF for approval, but check em out and keep your fingers crossed.

Brent
ATI

6/1/2009 5:36:31 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:

This is awesome news! Been waiting for someone to finally bring a out a good MP5 clone, unlike Coharie's junk. Hopefully yours will fill that void.


Do you own a Coharie?  Why do you say they're junk?
6/1/2009 8:55:35 AM EDT
[#19]
Looks like the 93 uses G36 mags  and the 91 looks like 417 mags
6/1/2009 10:14:38 AM EDT
[#20]
looks like i'll postpone my search for a carbine and SL8 until you guys release these
6/1/2009 10:19:01 AM EDT
[#21]
1K for a K version?
6/1/2009 10:19:21 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Looking forward to these. The Mp5 platform is one of my favorites.

I come from Turkey too haha


Çok Güzel


The Turks made some decent MP5s under license and G3s when I was there.
6/1/2009 10:23:30 AM EDT
[#23]
Oh my, yes please!
6/1/2009 12:22:58 PM EDT
[#24]
I would be all over a 9mm version of my GSG.  Keep us posted.
6/1/2009 12:34:44 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
I would be all over a 9mm version of my GSG.  Keep us posted.


I love how before the GSG we all said "i would love a .22 version of my MP5 clone!"
6/1/2009 12:37:58 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
I'm all for that, I think the market for HK type weapons has been cornered for way too long. It would be awesome to see some others to chose from.


It woukld be awesome to have decent quality and a source for parts instead of having to rely on Bailey.

6/1/2009 12:38:57 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:

Do you own a Coharie?  Why do you say they're junk?

I owned one.
6/1/2009 1:26:08 PM EDT
[#28]
ATI , how about a 22magnum GSG-5 ? Please
6/1/2009 2:27:05 PM EDT
[#29]
I'm in for a 9mm unles it's priced out of the ballpark. Made in Turkey should mean budget oriented pricing. Looks like a 91 style stock, but that will change with final production probably. I've always thought a 9mm carbine was a good idea and still do.
6/7/2009 6:59:46 PM EDT
[#30]
Wow a 9mm 94 or SP89 type gun would be tits!
6/7/2009 7:05:07 PM EDT
[#31]
Does anyone have any pics of the prototype on display at the SHOT show?
6/8/2009 1:57:32 PM EDT
[#32]
How are you planing getting around the 1989 Bush Ban? I take it us made parts. H&K 94 and clones are banned from import!
6/8/2009 4:02:08 PM EDT
[#33]
Would be very interested in these, if they make it state side.  Anyone that went to shot show able to fill in the "early" pricing estimates on these items.
6/9/2009 6:21:05 AM EDT
[#34]
A the NRA show we had ball park MSRPs on them based on if we would be able to import them from the prototypes we submitted.

Those prices were:

.223 rifle- $1249.00
.308 Rifle- $1299.00
9mm Pistol: $1849.00
9mm Rifle $1899.00

Now bear in mind that these were ball park prices and are absolutely not set in stone this early in the game.  All is proceeding well though in regards to the T&E with the ATF.  I'll keep you posted as these develop over the next few months.
6/9/2009 7:00:03 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
A the NRA show we had ball park MSRPs on them based on if we would be able to import them from the prototypes we submitted.

Those prices were:

.223 rifle- $1249.00
.308 Rifle- $1299.00
9mm Pistol: $1849.00
9mm Rifle $1899.00

Now bear in mind that these were ball park prices and are absolutely not set in stone this early in the game.  All is proceeding well though in regards to the T&E with the ATF.  I'll keep you posted as these develop over the next few months.


Thanks for the information.  I am sure if they make it state side the price would be less

6/9/2009 1:31:01 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
A the NRA show we had ball park MSRPs on them based on if we would be able to import them from the prototypes we submitted.

Those prices were:

.223 rifle- $1249.00
.308 Rifle- $1299.00
9mm Pistol: $1849.00
9mm Rifle $1899.00

Now bear in mind that these were ball park prices and are absolutely not set in stone this early in the game.  All is proceeding well though in regards to the T&E with the ATF.  I'll keep you posted as these develop over the next few months.


Thanks. We look forward to the updates.
6/9/2009 6:53:38 PM EDT
[#37]
Hmmm. Sounds interesting. I wonder how the insides would look?
6/10/2009 6:48:33 AM EDT
[#38]
Those aren't G36 mags –– they are Turkish HK33 mags (MKE HK 33E).  I own one, they are nice mags.







6/10/2009 12:36:22 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Those aren't G36 mags –– they are Turkish HK33 mags (MKE HK 33E).  I own one, they are nice mags.

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5057/mke33maglqv7.jpg

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3442/mke33magrbr7.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3582/hk1sizedvu9.jpg



Hey, on the mag what is the helicopter and airplane lines for???
6/10/2009 12:38:52 PM EDT
[#40]
The real question is: Will they work with registered sears?
6/10/2009 12:53:13 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I don't see that happening.


What are you referring to? There being any new news?


The fact that there isn't one? Nor ever will be? Where have you heard ANYTHING in regards to this?


now how do you feel?
6/10/2009 11:43:53 PM EDT
[#42]
K1196A where and how do you get those magazine?!
6/11/2009 7:43:59 AM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Those aren't G36 mags –– they are Turkish HK33 mags (MKE HK 33E).  I own one, they are nice mags.

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5057/mke33maglqv7.jpg

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3442/mke33magrbr7.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3582/hk1sizedvu9.jpg



Hey, on the mag what is the helicopter and airplane lines for???


OK since no one answered Im gonna take a wild guess.......

In reality those lines on the mag are suppossed to be painted white........So you hold the gun gangsta-style (sideways).....site down the helicopter line....at a helicopter flying by (within effective range of the rifle)...then let er' rip....kinda like throwing the football ahead of the running receiver!!??? Now since the jet is much faster....the jet line leads the bullets a little farther in front of the jet!!!???......Am I nuts here??...
6/11/2009 1:10:28 PM EDT
[#44]
Wow I really want a 9mm carbine/rifle
Hopefully the finished product will look a little more like the GSG-5 / MP5.  Price tag is definitely steep, but id make arrangements to save for one, one day
6/11/2009 1:30:00 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Wow I really want a 9mm carbine/rifle
Hopefully the finished product will look a little more like the GSG-5 / MP5.  Price tag is definitely steep, but id make arrangements to save for one, one day


have plans to move
6/11/2009 2:27:13 PM EDT
[#46]
How about going with the HK34 concept? I heard about it over on HKPro, and I've been wanting on

For those of you who haven't heard it's a HK94 with a longer G3 forearm in order to deal with the ugly looking 16" bbl on HK bbls for those who can't have or don't want an SBR.

Here are some pictures from my picture collection. These are the only HK34 pics I've been able to find.

6/11/2009 2:54:29 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
How about going with the HK34 concept? I heard about it over on HKPro, and I've been wanting on

For those of you who haven't heard it's a HK94 with a longer G3 forearm in order to deal with the ugly looking 16" bbl on HK bbls for those who can't have or don't want an SBR.

Here are some pictures from my picture collection. These are the only HK34 pics I've been able to find.
http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/4443/2616096220058660536S425x425Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb56.webshots.com/44535/2038174310058660536S425x425Q85.jpg


I like the hk 34

GSG you could make one in 22lr

6/12/2009 3:15:03 AM EDT
[#48]
Best of luck with ATF on these.  I think you have a decent shot of approval on handgun versions anyway.   With the ATF approving the Romanian DRACO AK pistol, the MP38-C, and the B&T TP9 they have been approving similar weapons for import.  I would be all over the SP89 type pistol if you can get them in, hopefully with a 3 lug barrel.
6/17/2009 8:15:39 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:

Hey, on the mag what is the helicopter and airplane lines for???


YOUR GUESS IS AS GOOD AS MINE ON THAT ONE.  I can't imagine it having any real viable use.

Quoted:
K1196A where and how do you get those magazine?!


I got it from the estate of a Swiss friend who picked up a few at a gun show in Geneva.  I think he paid like $75 a piece for them.
6/22/2009 8:20:29 PM EDT
[#50]
Thanks.....now I'll never get the VISA paid off. I've always regretted not picking up a HK94 and HK93 when they were "reasonably priced" in the early 80's. Did have the heavy beast HK91, not the best ergonomics but totally reliable with ammo.

Nice looking stuff by the way. The slim forend is cool.

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