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Posted: 7/29/2018 3:59:44 PM EDT
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I have not put my money down on one, but if PTR is doing complete builds and not re-furbishing existing Century rifles and include a 1/7" twist, paddle mag release and FA BCG, I will be left with no other option other then to buy one. At that price you'd be crazy not to.
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Posted: 7/29/2018 4:14:50 PM EDT
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Had a working century and sold it. No thanks. Didn't have a paddle release and couldn't take one. Mags were fragile and pricey. Ergos sucked and trigger was heavy.
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Posted: 7/29/2018 4:31:29 PM EDT
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Had a qorking century and sold it. No thanks Should be a winner. |
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Posted: 7/29/2018 4:32:00 PM EDT
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Had a qorking century and sold it. No thanks 
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Posted: 7/29/2018 4:43:03 PM EDT
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Agreed, but as others have stated, this is being built by PTR, with PTR barrel/finish. Should be a winner. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Had a qorking century and sold it. No thanks Should be a winner. I really wanted to like it. To me, a Mini-14 is a better rifle. |
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Posted: 7/29/2018 4:43:59 PM EDT
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Just means more left for people who know what they are looking at. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/29/2018 5:21:50 PM EDT
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I fo'd.
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Posted: 7/29/2018 6:19:06 PM EDT
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I thought I had self controlled myself but I just dumped one on a card too.
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Posted: 7/29/2018 6:58:52 PM EDT
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Really tempted to say "F*#k It" and pull the trigger, $500 is a steal IF PTR really DOES/DID rework these guns. I have visions of "My Bud's C93 Won't Run" threads or even worse "I Just Got My Bud's C93 Back From Jeff Walters/PCS And He Got It Running Like A Scolded Dog For $1900" threads. I had a 93 and loved it but loved wanting it to be a 53 more but always wanted a 93 again. I'm sure I'm gonna regret not jumping on this.
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Posted: 7/29/2018 7:07:44 PM EDT
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Really tempted to say "F*#k It" and pull the trigger, $500 is a steal IF PTR really DOES/DID rework these guns. I have visions of "My Bud's C93 Won't Run" threads or even worse "I Just Got My Bud's C93 Back From Jeff Walters/PCS And He Got It Running Like A Scolded Dog For $1900" threads. I had a 93 and loved it but loved wanting it to be a 53 more but always wanted a 93 again. I'm sure I'm gonna regret not jumping on this. |
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Posted: 7/29/2018 7:40:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $550 is a good price for a original C93, much less something that PTR builds. |
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Posted: 7/29/2018 10:09:36 PM EDT
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The fact that the receiver was made to where you couldn't install a paddle was the biggest downside for me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Had a qorking century and sold it. No thanks |
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Posted: 7/29/2018 10:25:54 PM EDT
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Some guy on the AK files just paid $620.00 for one of these parts kits. He's hating life right now. |
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Posted: 7/29/2018 10:53:37 PM EDT
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In on the waiting list.
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Posted: 7/30/2018 9:57:07 AM EDT
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PTR wrote me back
Good morning, We purchased the receivers and parts kits many years ago when century stopped producing them. They will be built in house with our barrels, 1:9 twist. No paddle release will be installed. Besides that I do not have any more details on the firearm at this time. Thank You Edward Salvi Customer Service Manager PTR Industries |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 10:13:57 AM EDT
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PTR wrote me back Good morning, We purchased the receivers and parts kits many years ago when century stopped producing them. They will be built in house with our barrels, 1:9 twist. No paddle release will be installed. Besides that I do not have any more details on the firearm at this time. Thank You Edward Salvi Customer Service Manager PTR Industries Good to know that are being built from old stock parts kits and not cannibalized Century rejects. |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 10:23:39 AM EDT
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Had a working century and sold it. No thanks. Didn't have a paddle release and couldn't take one. Mags were fragile and pricey. Ergos sucked and trigger was heavy. fun to shoot, but not designed for lefty shooters.....at all Does Buds know how many rifles they have? |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 10:35:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good news, bad news I guess. Thanks again for the info. Good to know that are being built from old stock parts kits and not cannibalized Century rejects. Yeah it would be nice to have a paddle release but the issue with the C93s that required more work was the wonky shelf they used, hopefully PTR uses their shelf that will make it easy to install a paddle after the fact, otherwise I'll just send it to Jeff at Parabellum and have him do it. |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 11:06:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1/9 twist doesn't bother me for this, I won't be doing precision work with it. Yeah it would be nice to have a paddle release but the issue with the C93s that required more work was the wonky shelf they used, hopefully PTR uses their shelf that will make it easy to install a paddle after the fact, otherwise I'll just send it to Jeff at Parabellum and have him do it. |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 1:12:49 PM EDT
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I have not put my money down on one, but if PTR is doing complete builds and not re-furbishing existing Century rifles and include a 1/7" twist, paddle mag release and FA BCG, I will be left with no other option other then to buy one. At that price you'd be crazy not to. Edit: guess I should have read the whole thread before responding...oh well |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 2:59:05 PM EDT
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How much work to turn it into a 53? |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 3:18:23 PM EDT
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Re-barrel, cocking tube support, locking piece. Not sure about cocking tube itself. Might be able to shorten it. |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 4:23:39 PM EDT
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I’m not going to rush to buy one yet, since they’re apparently making 800. But I will be keeping my eyes on this, especially if they have full auto carriers and if the barrels are CL.
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Posted: 7/30/2018 4:41:31 PM EDT
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Just ran across these on HK Parts
PTR built HK93 barrels I'd wager these are what they are going to be using https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=16458&idcategory=162 |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 5:13:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2018 8:10:50 PM EDT
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I really like the platform, especially at the price point. However I do not like the factory magazine prices, especially for anything besides the 40 rounders. I am aware of the aftermarket options but they just don't have the same quality the factory ones do. I'll pass on these ones, just like I have been passing on them for the past few years since Century started to pump them out. Maybe one day I'll stumble into a deal on a pile of factory magazines and I'll have to change my stance. |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 8:16:28 PM EDT
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Be nice if PTR made a G41 clone that uses M16 mags Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I really like the platform, especially at the price point. However I do not like the factory magazine prices, especially for anything besides the 40 rounders. I am aware of the aftermarket options but they just don't have the same quality the factory ones do. I'll pass on these ones, just like I have been passing on them for the past few years since Century started to pump them out. Maybe one day I'll stumble into a deal on a pile of factory magazines and I'll have to change my stance. |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 8:30:55 PM EDT
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Dumb question, but could you rebarrel it for 300 blackout? Would it need anything else besides a new barrel?
https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=17392&idcategory=162 |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 8:35:14 PM EDT
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To be correct you need a HK53 cocking tube also, but the cocking tube support can be utilized. You will also need an HK53 carrier. It's not a cheap conversion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Re-barrel, cocking tube support, locking piece. Not sure about cocking tube itself. Might be able to shorten it. Why is the carrier different? |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 8:36:41 PM EDT
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hopefully PTR uses their shelf that will make it easy to install a paddle after the fact, otherwise I'll just send it to Jeff at Parabellum and have him do it. |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 8:58:29 PM EDT
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Might want to verify Jeff will do work on these before buying... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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hopefully PTR uses their shelf that will make it easy to install a paddle after the fact, otherwise I'll just send it to Jeff at Parabellum and have him do it. |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 9:07:07 PM EDT
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hopefully PTR uses their shelf that will make it easy to install a paddle after the fact, otherwise I'll just send it to Jeff at Parabellum and have him do it. I asked Jeff. He said he does install them, but the Century guns with the solid steel bar across the magwell, requires milling and being welded, and the cost would reflect that. So, mine will probably not get a paddle-mag. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 12:07:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: some make of guns he doesn't work on. I asked Jeff. He said he does install them, but the Century guns with the solid steel bar across the magwell, requires milling and being welded, and the cost would reflect that. So, mine will probably not get a paddle-mag. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 12:48:32 AM EDT
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I wouldn't automatically assume PTR would use the same shelf that Century did, here's hoping they make it a little easier for us. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: some make of guns he doesn't work on. I asked Jeff. He said he does install them, but the Century guns with the solid steel bar across the magwell, requires milling and being welded, and the cost would reflect that. So, mine will probably not get a paddle-mag. ETA: Jeff also said he would install paddles, just cost more than a standard job. To me, not a huge turn-off. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 9:50:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am basing my assumption off of the email reply from PTR that states they bought HK33 kits, and Century receivers. Calling them receivers, implies to me that they're already rolled/welded and have a shelf installed. ETA: Jeff also said he would install paddles, just cost more than a standard job. To me, not a huge turn-off. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 10:02:52 AM EDT
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Damn, you're right. I had been going on the assumption they were building these out of flats but all the communication from PTR has explicitly stated receiver. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I am basing my assumption off of the email reply from PTR that states they bought HK33 kits, and Century receivers. Calling them receivers, implies to me that they're already rolled/welded and have a shelf installed. ETA: Jeff also said he would install paddles, just cost more than a standard job. To me, not a huge turn-off. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 10:05:34 AM EDT
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Yea I was replying from the dentist, on my phone. That was just what I could remember off the top of my head. Why is the carrier different? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Re-barrel, cocking tube support, locking piece. Not sure about cocking tube itself. Might be able to shorten it. Why is the carrier different? |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 10:40:50 AM EDT
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Quoted: I am basing my assumption off of the email reply from PTR that states they bought HK33 kits, and Century receivers. Calling them receivers, implies to me that they're already rolled/welded and have a shelf installed. ETA: Jeff also said he would install paddles, just cost more than a standard job. To me, not a huge turn-off. Quoted: Hence why I'm not interested. He said the receivers were bent but nothing has been welded to them and PTR will be doing everything else. I begged him not to use the Century shelf and explained why. If he replies to that I'll post here. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 10:43:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay so this was bugging me so I tapped my guy at PTR again He said the receivers were bent but nothing has been welded to them and PTR will be doing everything else. I begged him not to use the Century shelf and explained why. If he replies to that I'll post here. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 10:51:40 AM EDT
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What's the cheapest route to get quality magazines for this gun. Thinking of 10-12 total. The surplus steel are $80-90 each, so can't drop close to $1k on just magazines. Promag are cheaper at $12-15 but not sure those are quality go to war magazines.
MKE polymer magazines seem decent at $30-35. Are those able to fit in the C93 with some basic fitting? A magwell conversion to AR mags is what, $300-350? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Hence why I'm not interested. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: I am basing my assumption off of the email reply from PTR that states they bought HK33 kits, and Century receivers. Calling them receivers, implies to me that they're already rolled/welded and have a shelf installed. ETA: Jeff also said he would install paddles, just cost more than a standard job. To me, not a huge turn-off. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 10:59:12 AM EDT
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This really is a great deal. I just can't put something that says Century Arms C93 Sporter in my safe.
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Posted: 7/31/2018 11:33:51 AM EDT
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What's the cheapest route to get quality magazines for this gun. Thinking of 10-12 total. The surplus steel are $80-90 each, so can't drop close to $1k on just magazines. Promag are cheaper at $12-15 but not sure those are quality go to war magazines. MKE polymer magazines seem decent at $30-35. Are those able to fit in the C93 with some basic fitting? A magwell conversion to AR mags is what, $300-350? You sure seem to be spending a lot of time in a thread for a gun you have no interest in. Quote HistoryQuoted:
What's the cheapest route to get quality magazines for this gun. Thinking of 10-12 total. The surplus steel are $80-90 each, so can't drop close to $1k on just magazines. Promag are cheaper at $12-15 but not sure those are quality go to war magazines. MKE polymer magazines seem decent at $30-35. Are those able to fit in the C93 with some basic fitting? A magwell conversion to AR mags is what, $300-350? Quoted:
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Posted: 7/31/2018 11:54:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay so this was bugging me so I tapped my guy at PTR again He said the receivers were bent but nothing has been welded to them and PTR will be doing everything else. I begged him not to use the Century shelf and explained why. If he replies to that I'll post here. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 11:59:37 AM EDT
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I can almost guarantee if they already have those shelves from Century, they will use them. Hopefully not. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 1:14:58 PM EDT
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Just a suggestion. If you don't already have mags for this rifle and wish to own a couple of HK German Steel Mags I would recommend buying them now before they all disappear. I picked up a couple off of GB last night and they are already increasing the prices. By the time these rifles are delivered the law of supply/demand will likely double the prices on these things. I will also be buying a few Promag 20's for the bench.
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Posted: 7/31/2018 1:28:11 PM EDT
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Just a suggestion. If you don't already have mags for this rifle and wish to own a couple of HK German Steel Mags I would recommend buying them now before they all disappear. I picked up a couple off of GB last night and they are already increasing the prices. By the time these rifles are delivered the law of supply/demand will likely double the prices on these things. I will also be buying a few Promag 20's for the bench. I'm of the same mindset, I wanted to get at least one real HK mag and then I'll get a few promags. Hopefully Zenith comes correct and is able to actually import the metal 93 mags they were trying to. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 1:46:28 PM EDT
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The mags are what have kept me out of this platform and my 93 still in the safe.
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Posted: 7/31/2018 1:54:26 PM EDT
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I wonder if you're the guy that bought the mag out from underneath me? I ended up contacting the vendor and they had another that I bought. I thought that German MP5 mags were painful, 80.00 shipped for a German HK93 mag was rough. I'm of the same mindset, I wanted to get at least one real HK mag and then I'll get a few promags. Hopefully Zenith comes correct and is able to actually import the metal 93 mags they were trying to. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just a suggestion. If you don't already have mags for this rifle and wish to own a couple of HK German Steel Mags I would recommend buying them now before they all disappear. I picked up a couple off of GB last night and they are already increasing the prices. By the time these rifles are delivered the law of supply/demand will likely double the prices on these things. I will also be buying a few Promag 20's for the bench. I'm of the same mindset, I wanted to get at least one real HK mag and then I'll get a few promags. Hopefully Zenith comes correct and is able to actually import the metal 93 mags they were trying to. . I just picked up a few Promag 20rnd for 12.99 each. The 30's are a couple bucks more and as much as I love to hate on ProMag for the Vepr12 everyone says that this 93 mag just works. I just wanted an HK mag for my rifle.
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Posted: 7/31/2018 2:08:06 PM EDT
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I really want a proper 93.... with paddle. Not another Century Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's the cheapest route to get quality magazines for this gun. Thinking of 10-12 total. The surplus steel are $80-90 each, so can't drop close to $1k on just magazines. Promag are cheaper at $12-15 but not sure those are quality go to war magazines. MKE polymer magazines seem decent at $30-35. Are those able to fit in the C93 with some basic fitting? A magwell conversion to AR mags is what, $300-350? Quoted:
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Posted: 7/31/2018 2:53:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Possible, but mine were only $65 each. . I just picked up a few Promag 20rnd for 12.99 each. The 30's are a couple bucks more and as much as I love to hate on ProMag for the Vepr12 everyone says that this 93 mag just works. I just wanted an HK mag for my rifle.I just checked and they raised the price to 77.00 with $8.00 shipping. I see other stores used to carry these for $50ish but they are all sold out. I wonder if HK USA is going to import some more. |
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