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Link Posted: 1/21/2019 1:15:57 AM EST
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the most recent ATF determination was that a VFG is 90 degrees to the bore, and any angle makes it an AFG and therefore GTG
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Awesome! Thank you!
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 5:46:57 PM EST
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@ Colby_331

With the newer brace "flaps", they appear a little thinner then the others....are you able to grip the pistol and/or fire it with the brace folded? I am wondering if they flex a little and allow your hand to fit in and grab the pistol.
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If you were left handed you could get to the trigger but not hold the grip normally. Firing right handed with the brace folded isn't going to happen.
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 6:13:22 PM EST
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Thanks for the info.

Even know that isn't a deal breaker,I would really like th option to hold the gun or occasionally shoot it with one hand (right).
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 6:17:48 PM EST
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Thanks for the info.

Even know that isn't a deal breaker,I would really like th option to hold the gun or occasionally shoot it with one hand (right).
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If you want to use the brace the tailhook mod posted earlier is far better than the stock brace
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 6:31:10 PM EST
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I believe I was the first to actually do the tailhook mod on the Roni......that did accomplihj one handed holding and shooting. Just wished it would have been able to lock when folded. I just lost interest. The new one with iterchangable front ends parts has gotten be slightly interested again.

I know....I am never happy
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 7:04:49 PM EST
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Thanks for the info.

Even know that isn't a deal breaker,I would really like th option to hold the gun or occasionally shoot it with one hand (right).
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With the brace folded on the MCK, the charging handle fits into a hole on the side of the brace, and locks the charging handle in the forward position (can't cycle the charging handle without unlocking the brace from the folded position).
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 7:10:20 PM EST
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With the brace folded on the MCK, the charging handle fits into a hole on the side of the brace, and locks the charging handle in the forward position (can't cycle the charging handle without unlocking the brace from the folded position).
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I forgot that part too...haha.

My problem is that I want it to be something it's not. It is geeat the way it is, but in my mind, I am thinking/wanting it to be more of a USW type PDW. I just need to sell an organ or something

The flux brace may be my answer, but too new for me to invest.

In case anyone is interested....it is posted elsewhere too.
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 7:56:26 PM EST
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https://i0-wp-com.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/i0.wp.com/caagearup.com/wp-content/uploads/csm/Micro_Roni_G4_website.jpg?fit=1024%2C469&ssl=1

Looking at a Roni but I'm not a fan of the angled grip. Two questions if anyone knows:

1. Does the spare mag holder on this count as a vfg? (I know the stock makes it NFA but I would replace that with a brace.)

2. I've got suppressor height sights on my Glock 19, would those work in the chassis without too much modification? (Don't want to remove the sights, but I am ok with dremeling some material out of the inside if I have to.)
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Right or wrong I've done what you're suggesting for #1.  The G17 in the KPOS Scout at the top of the photo is SBR'd and started out in the RONI at the bottom of the photo with the normal stock installed.  When the Scout came out I decided to try it as I had heard it would be easy to run a suppressor (which it is) so the SBR Glock is staying in the Scout.  Since there's good info out there about a VFG having to be 90 degrees, I figured the mag holder on the RONI could be argued to be an AFG so I swapped out the stock for the long brace and use it with another G17 I picked up.  When you've got your strong hand on the G17 grip, you really can't get a full grip around the mag holder.  There's just not enough room.  It's more like doing a magwell hold on an AR.

Link Posted: 1/21/2019 8:05:05 PM EST
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I believe I was the first to actually do the tailhook mod on the Roni......that did accomplihj one handed holding and shooting. Just wished it would have been able to lock when folded. I just lost interest. The new one with iterchangable front ends parts has gotten be slightly interested again.

I know....I am never happy
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@HK_DUDE

Where are you finding the info on the new unreleased model with interchangeable afg?
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 8:21:48 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/21/2019 8:24:13 PM EST
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With the brace folded on the MCK, the charging handle fits into a hole on the side of the brace, and locks the charging handle in the forward position (can't cycle the charging handle without unlocking the brace from the folded position).
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Thanks for the info.

Even know that isn't a deal breaker,I would really like th option to hold the gun or occasionally shoot it with one hand (right).
With the brace folded on the MCK, the charging handle fits into a hole on the side of the brace, and locks the charging handle in the forward position (can't cycle the charging handle without unlocking the brace from the folded position).
I remember now.....I turned 50 this fall...haha.

I was going to remove that right side charging handle finger from the plastic charging handle snap on thingy.
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 8:54:40 PM EST
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Gee thanks... make me spend my $

Now I wonder how long the pre order is going to take!!!
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 8:56:07 PM EST
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Gee thanks... make me spend my $

Now I wonder how long the pre order is going to take!!!
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Gee thanks... make me spend my $

Now I wonder how long the pre order is going to take!!!
Glad to help...haha.

That is the golden question!
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 9:08:54 PM EST
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Don't forget about the MLK discount code..
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 9:15:48 PM EST
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It didn’t work on the pre order. I tried
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 9:18:55 PM EST
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It didn’t work on the pre order. I tried
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Don't forget about the MLK discount code..
It didn’t work on the pre order. I tried
Are you on the list?
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 9:19:39 PM EST
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Are you on the list?
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Don't forget about the MLK discount code..
It didn’t work on the pre order. I tried
Are you on the list?
I preordered, I registered an account too. I didn’t seem to get the 10% off either. I have no idea why.  I plan to call them or email them.
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 9:21:49 PM EST
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I preordered, I registered an account too. I didn’t seem to get the 10% off either. I have no idea why.  I plan to call them or email them.
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Don't forget about the MLK discount code..
It didn’t work on the pre order. I tried
Are you on the list?
I preordered, I registered an account too. I didn’t seem to get the 10% off either. I have no idea why.  I plan to call them or email them.
Please keep us posted!
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 9:37:02 PM EST
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I forgot that part too...haha.

My problem is that I want it to be something it's not. It is geeat the way it is, but in my mind, I am thinking/wanting it to be more of a USW type PDW. I just need to sell an organ or something

The flux brace may be my answer, but too new for me to invest.

In case anyone is interested....it is posted elsewhere too.
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With the brace folded on the MCK, the charging handle fits into a hole on the side of the brace, and locks the charging handle in the forward position (can't cycle the charging handle without unlocking the brace from the folded position).
I forgot that part too...haha.

My problem is that I want it to be something it's not. It is geeat the way it is, but in my mind, I am thinking/wanting it to be more of a USW type PDW. I just need to sell an organ or something

The flux brace may be my answer, but too new for me to invest.

In case anyone is interested....it is posted elsewhere too.
that thing is awesome, really a close as you can get to a USW without nfa

ETA: And holsterable, too. That's a pretty big advantage over the RONI.
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 9:37:28 PM EST
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I just called the rep in  the USA, he said because they are already discounted the 10% does not apply.  He said two weeks for the pre order.  Let’s see if that’s correct!
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 9:38:48 PM EST
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to everyone who asked if the new interchangeable mag holder is vertical, the answer is no. It's is definitely angled less than 90 in the pics I've seen that are side-on. So it's GTG with a brace.
Link Posted: 1/27/2019 3:09:36 PM EST
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Thanks for the info.

Even know that isn't a deal breaker,I would really like th option to hold the gun or occasionally shoot it with one hand (right).
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Isn't that the point of the brace?
Link Posted: 1/27/2019 3:17:28 PM EST
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What happened to the MCK?

Why a new model again?
Link Posted: 1/27/2019 3:37:50 PM EST
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What happened to the MCK?

Why a new model again?
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The MCK is made in the US, for the US market.  You can still order it from CAA, and CAA is taking pre-orders for a version of the MCK that will work with Glock 20 and Glock 21 models.

I could be completely wrong, but I think the model YRS is taking pre-orders on, is a model that CAA is making for other markets, and YRS is importing it to the US.
Link Posted: 1/27/2019 4:33:50 PM EST
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Isn't that the point of the brace?
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Thanks for the info.

Even know that isn't a deal breaker,I would really like th option to hold the gun or occasionally shoot it with one hand (right).
Isn't that the point of the brace?
Shoot it with one hand when the brace is folded. With brace unfoded I use 2 hands and cheek the brace.
Link Posted: 2/6/2019 10:25:59 AM EST
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My new kit: G19.4 + New MCK + Thumb Rest (L) + TRL-4 (R) + Romeo5 + MBUS

Fun Details: RD and BUIS are absolute co-witnessed, TRL laser is bore-sighted to 7yds, BUIS bore-sighted to 14yds, RD is bore-sighted to 21yds

Issues:

1) There is 2-3mm of noticeable play in the lock-up between my G19 and the MCK chassis. The play is up/down (vs. left/right) and is most easily experienced when pushing up or down on the charging handle (vs. pulling back to cock). Is this normal or do I have a problem here? FYSA the MCK locking mechanism is 100% fully seated and stable.

2) I’m running ETS 31rd G18 mags which are very difficult to remove from the spare magazine holder. Impossible without some very stout/violent shaking/wiggling of the magazine. Is this something that is expected to get smoother over time or should I do something like back out the lower MCK frame support screws just a hair to proactively correct?

Thanks all.
Link Posted: 2/6/2019 5:07:04 PM EST
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My new kit: G19.4 + New MCK + Thumb Rest (L) + TRL-4 (R) + Romeo5 + MBUS

Fun Details: RD and BUIS are absolute co-witnessed, TRL laser is bore-sighted to 7yds, BUIS bore-sighted to 14yds, RD is bore-sighted to 21yds

Issues:

1) There is 2-3mm of noticeable play in the lock-up between my G19 and the MCK chassis. The play is up/down (vs. left/right) and is most easily experienced when pushing up or down on the charging handle (vs. pulling back to cock). Is this normal or do I have a problem here? FYSA the MCK locking mechanism is 100% fully seated and stable.

2) I'm running ETS 31rd G18 mags which are very difficult to remove from the spare magazine holder. Impossible without some very stout/violent shaking/wiggling of the magazine. Is this something that is expected to get smoother over time or should I do something like back out the lower MCK frame support screws just a hair to proactively correct?

Thanks all.
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The ETS mags have issues with many Glock mag holders, their body profile is actually fairly different.
Link Posted: 2/6/2019 5:18:47 PM EST
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The ETS mags have issues with many Glock mag holders, their body profile is actually fairly different.
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And yet they work flawlessly where it counts..

Link Posted: 2/7/2019 6:51:00 AM EST
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What type of QD swivel is compatible with this?

I bought one and it didn’t work.

??????????
Link Posted: 2/7/2019 7:36:42 AM EST
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The problem with the QD socket is, In my opinion, dimensionally out of spec.

The hole is too tall and the spring loaded ball that is part of the swivel does not go deep enough to get pass the recess that locks into..

The fix....
- Some use the Magpul lock in swivel hoop
- others purchase the one CAA sells
- some try different make/models until the find one that fits

or the fix I used is to file down the QD socket and the surrounding plastic, slowly and checking with your QD swivel, until it locks in...then all your swivels will work.

I don't know if this was intentional by CAA so you had to purchase there's, or they did not have the right tolerances when they machined the socket and molded it into the Chassis.
Link Posted: 2/7/2019 7:46:17 AM EST
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The problem with the QD socket is, In my opinion, dimensionally out of spec.

The hole is too tall and the spring loaded ball that is part of the swivel does not go deep enough to get pass the recess that locks into..

The fix....
- Some use the Magpul lock in swivel hoop
- others purchase the one CAA sells
- some try different make/models until the find one that fits

or the fix I used is to file down the QD socket and the surrounding plastic, slowly and checking with your QD swivel, until it locks in...then all your swivels will work.

I don't know if this was intentional by CAA so you had to purchase there's, or they did not have the right tolerances when they machined the socket and molded it into the Chassis.
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Given that the issue dates all the way back to their original full size roni clam-shell version it is hard to imagine it is by mistake.
Link Posted: 2/7/2019 8:15:35 AM EST
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The problem with the QD socket is, In my opinion, dimensionally out of spec.

The hole is too tall and the spring loaded ball that is part of the swivel does not go deep enough to get pass the recess that locks into..

...The fix I used is to file down the QD socket and the surrounding plastic, slowly and checking with your QD swivel, until it locks in...then all your swivels will work.
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For the Win..!
Link Posted: 2/7/2019 10:48:50 AM EST
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Anyone else noticing this...?

There is 2-3mm of noticeable play in the lock-up between my G19 and the MCK chassis. The play is up/down (vs. left/right) and is most easily experienced when pushing up or down on the charging handle (vs. pulling back to cock). Is this normal or do I have a problem here?

FYSA the MCK locking mechanism is 100% fully seated and stable - the play is strictly between my the Glock and MCK chassis.
Link Posted: 2/7/2019 11:01:27 AM EST
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Anyone else noticing this...?

There is 2-3mm of noticeable play in the lock-up between my G19 and the MCK chassis. The play is up/down (vs. left/right) and is most easily experienced when pushing up or down on the charging handle (vs. pulling back to cock). Is this normal or do I have a problem here?

FYSA the MCK locking mechanism is 100% fully seated and stable - the play is strictly between my the Glock and MCK chassis.
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I would recommend you place a few small strips of electrical tape on top of the trigger guard cradle on the chassis. That should create a snug fit.
Link Posted: 2/11/2019 9:54:23 AM EST
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I special ordered a MCK with the short stab, and it’s finally on the way.  Hopefully midweek.
Link Posted: 2/13/2019 3:21:09 PM EST
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Ordered an MCK from lockedloaded.com and it arrived today, new and unopened.  Took it out of the package and the stabilizer lock button and 2 springs fell out of the brace.  I put it back together and they fell out again.  The catch on the inside isn't holding the button in place in the button socket on the brace.  I can replace the button/springs and lock it in the extended position, but folding the brace drops all the parts out again.  Pretty disappointed.  I have an email to CAA to see if they'll take care of it.

EDITED TO ADD: Just as I finished typing this I received an email from CAA that they are sending a new button assembly for the brace.
Link Posted: 2/13/2019 4:18:45 PM EST
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Ordered an MCK from lockedloaded.com and it arrived today, new and unopened.  Took it out of the package and the stabilizer lock button and 2 springs fell out of the brace.  I put it back together and they fell out again.  The catch on the inside isn't holding the button in place in the button socket on the brace.  I can replace the button/springs and lock it in the extended position, but folding the brace drops all the parts out again.  Pretty disappointed.  I have an email to CAA to see if they'll take care of it.

EDITED TO ADD: Just as I finished typing this I received an email from CAA that they are sending a new button assembly for the brace.
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A few people reporting this issue. Luckily, I'm not one of them.

Mine just jams when using 33rnd magazines for whatever reason.
Link Posted: 2/14/2019 8:21:26 PM EST
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How do you SBR a Glock? Where does the engraving go?
Link Posted: 2/15/2019 12:41:40 PM EST
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My G17 is laser engraved on the bottom of the trigger guard
Link Posted: 2/15/2019 1:07:11 PM EST
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My G17 is laser engraved on the bottom of the trigger guard
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I thought the engraving had to be in metal?
Link Posted: 2/15/2019 2:11:48 PM EST
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Ordered an MCK from Rainier the other day. Due to be delivered to work tomorrow, means Ill be able to check it out Monday.

Also ordered a few of the accessories straight from CAA due next week too.
Link Posted: 2/15/2019 2:15:10 PM EST
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Only for the serial number
Link Posted: 2/15/2019 4:57:20 PM EST
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So the G4 was only out for a few months, then CAA drops the G4 and YRS may continue to bring in the G4, the MCK supposed to be considered the G5 but is only out for a few months and may already be set to be replaced by a different MCK variant?  Do I have that right?
Link Posted: 2/15/2019 5:25:31 PM EST
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So the G4 was only out for a few months, then CAA drops the G4 and YRS may continue to bring in the G4, the MCK supposed to be considered the G5 but is only out for a few months and may already be set to be replaced by a different MCK variant?  Do I have that right?
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Yes, and now I need a Tylenol.
Link Posted: 2/18/2019 9:39:35 PM EST
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Any links on a newer MCK variant?
Link Posted: 2/19/2019 1:28:56 PM EST
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MCK came today. Accesories came yesterday. Got it all together minus my sight which should be here tomorrow. I can tell already Im going to have a lot of fun with this.

Just from handling it. The Glock 17 in it locks up tight and it feels pretty solid.
Link Posted: 2/20/2019 8:55:24 AM EST
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So the G4 was only out for a few months, then CAA drops the G4 and YRS may continue to bring in the G4, the MCK supposed to be considered the G5 but is only out for a few months and may already be set to be replaced by a different MCK variant?  Do I have that right?
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What is the different MCK variant? Do you have a link that shows the newer version?
Link Posted: 2/20/2019 9:01:57 AM EST
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What is the different MCK variant? Do you have a link that shows the newer version?
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So the G4 was only out for a few months, then CAA drops the G4 and YRS may continue to bring in the G4, the MCK supposed to be considered the G5 but is only out for a few months and may already be set to be replaced by a different MCK variant?  Do I have that right?
What is the different MCK variant? Do you have a link that shows the newer version?
https://www.yrsinc.com/en/micro-roni-stab-gen-4-caa-gearup-pdw-converter-for-generation-3-4-5-glock-17-22-31-19-23-32
Link Posted: 2/22/2019 12:25:28 AM EST
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How is the MCK different from the Gen 4 CAA Gear Micro Roni Stabilizer?  Is it just the 45 degree vertical magazine holder?
Link Posted: 2/23/2019 8:30:46 AM EST
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How is the MCK different from the Gen 4 CAA Gear Micro Roni Stabilizer?  Is it just the 45 degree vertical magazine holder?
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That, and it looks they also brought back the trigger safety with the Gen 4.
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