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Posted: 5/31/2019 3:47:41 PM EDT
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The Holosun lasers have been really good to me so far. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 4:35:54 AM EDT
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pulled trigger on a perst 3 red laser unit,
i will have a surefire m952v for IR comparison and eotech lbc with red and IR laser. So far my eotech lbc vis red is brighter than any streamlight even in green. The m952v is lack luster for IR, max illumination maybe 75 yards |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 9:09:11 PM EDT
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pulled trigger on a perst 3 red laser unit, i will have a surefire m952v for IR comparison and eotech lbc with red and IR laser. So far my eotech lbc vis red is brighter than any streamlight even in green. The m952v is lack luster for IR, max illumination maybe 75 yards |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 9:26:47 PM EDT
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Thanks for that. I just ordered an FDE “Plus” model. The page claims the Plus model have higher output across both visible and IR outputs. I’ll compare it to my standard Perst-3 once it arrives and see what the differences are. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Black Phase Tactical has the FDE/Desert Perst-3+ green Never heard of them before but I'm very tempted  I’ll compare it to my standard Perst-3 once it arrives and see what the differences are. Looks like I should have grabbed one as they are off the site now. 
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Posted: 6/2/2019 1:33:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a night vision class next weekend and I'm using an old i2 with a 952v. I have a feeling after this class I'll be changing up things. |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 8:10:34 PM EDT
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FYI: I asked Ivan and he said FDE/Tan Persts would be old stock. Something about the coating not being acceptable so they went back to only black.
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Posted: 6/2/2019 8:24:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe! respond in this forum and let me know if it was enough to run in class, never had the opportunity. |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 11:56:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @horta you ever get yours? Looks like I should have grabbed one as they are off the site now. Seems like a good guy, though. |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 11:57:03 PM EDT
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FYI: I asked Ivan and he said FDE/Tan Persts would be old stock. Something about the coating not being acceptable so they went back to only black. |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 11:46:26 AM EDT
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Got the laser delivered today. Overall impressions are just ok for appearance and satisfied with performance. The switch to increase the power output of the laser is a neat feature. Will be out at my dad's property camping this weekend and we plan on doing a good bit of night shooting. I'm looking forward to comparing it to my two Holosun IR&Vis lasers. My only gripe is it didn't come with the switch, but it has two activation buttons so it shouldn't be a big deal. If anyone has one they wont use, I might be interested in making a deal.
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Posted: 6/3/2019 12:22:25 PM EDT
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Got the laser delivered today. Overall impressions are just ok for appearance and satisfied with performance. The switch to increase the power output of the laser is a neat feature. Will be out at my dad's property camping this weekend and we plan on doing a good bit of night shooting. I'm looking forward to comparing it to my two Holosun IR&Vis lasers. My only gripe is it didn't come with the switch, but it has two activation buttons so it shouldn't be a big deal. If anyone has one they wont use, I might be interested in making a deal. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/Resized_20190603_102856_8673_jpeg-967503.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/Resized_20190603_103043_9635_jpeg-967505.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/Resized_20190603_103050_3069_jpeg-967507.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/Resized_20190603_103109_7429_jpeg-967508.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/Resized_20190603_103127_7869_jpeg-967510.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/Resized_20190603_103052_3891_jpeg-967513.JPG  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 1:13:28 PM EDT
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Probably best just to rattle can your own with Krylon Camo in that case. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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FYI: I asked Ivan and he said FDE/Tan Persts would be old stock. Something about the coating not being acceptable so they went back to only black. It would have been cool to get an FDE one. Someone needs to teach Russ about Cerakote
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Posted: 6/3/2019 1:44:31 PM EDT
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Looks like you got an older model. I have an extra switch if you want it. IM me your info https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53395/IMG_2836__1__jpg-967550.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Got the laser delivered today. Overall impressions are just ok for appearance and satisfied with performance. The switch to increase the power output of the laser is a neat feature. Will be out at my dad's property camping this weekend and we plan on doing a good bit of night shooting. I'm looking forward to comparing it to my two Holosun IR&Vis lasers. My only gripe is it didn't come with the switch, but it has two activation buttons so it shouldn't be a big deal. If anyone has one they wont use, I might be interested in making a deal. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/Resized_20190603_102856_8673_jpeg-967503.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/Resized_20190603_103043_9635_jpeg-967505.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/Resized_20190603_103050_3069_jpeg-967507.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/Resized_20190603_103109_7429_jpeg-967508.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/Resized_20190603_103127_7869_jpeg-967510.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/Resized_20190603_103052_3891_jpeg-967513.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53395/IMG_2836__1__jpg-967550.JPG |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 3:37:32 PM EDT
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Got the laser delivered today. Overall impressions are just ok for appearance and satisfied with performance. The switch to increase the power output of the laser is a neat feature. Will be out at my dad's property camping this weekend and we plan on doing a good bit of night shooting. I'm looking forward to comparing it to my two Holosun IR&Vis lasers. My only gripe is it didn't come with the switch, but it has two activation buttons so it shouldn't be a big deal. If anyone has one they wont use, I might be interested in making a deal. Yah you need some spray love on that thing, it looks like it was used in the ukraine conflict lol |
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Posted: 6/3/2019 4:37:33 PM EDT
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My Perst 3 just shipped from Ebay today, did you do ebay/zentico and did they issue you a tracking label? Yah you need some spray love on that thing, it looks like it was used in the ukraine conflict lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Got the laser delivered today. Overall impressions are just ok for appearance and satisfied with performance. The switch to increase the power output of the laser is a neat feature. Will be out at my dad's property camping this weekend and we plan on doing a good bit of night shooting. I'm looking forward to comparing it to my two Holosun IR&Vis lasers. My only gripe is it didn't come with the switch, but it has two activation buttons so it shouldn't be a big deal. If anyone has one they wont use, I might be interested in making a deal. Yah you need some spray love on that thing, it looks like it was used in the ukraine conflict lol |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 2:42:29 PM EDT
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Anybody know the height above the rail of the lasers and illuminators on the perst 3+?
I’m wondering if it will clear the recessed rail on the Cloud Defensive COR rail? |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 3:16:00 PM EDT
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Anybody know the height above the rail of the lasers and illuminators on the perst 3+? I’m wondering if it will clear the recessed rail on the Cloud Defensive COR rail? |
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Posted: 6/6/2019 4:03:58 PM EDT
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Anybody know the height above the rail of the lasers and illuminators on the perst 3+? I’m wondering if it will clear the recessed rail on the Cloud Defensive COR rail? On a side note... Why are there no output photos of the Perst2? |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 2:52:34 AM EDT
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heres a nice review of the perst 3 and perst 4, green vis, upgraded output version.
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Posted: 6/8/2019 11:50:13 AM EDT
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Thank god finally something in English lol
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Posted: 6/8/2019 7:25:44 PM EDT
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heres a nice review of the perst 3 and perst 4, green vis, upgraded output version.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOBLxpYkg6M
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Posted: 6/8/2019 7:43:36 PM EDT
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heres a nice review of the perst 3 and perst 4, green vis, upgraded output version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOBLxpYkg6M |
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:18:27 PM EDT
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I think I would be afraid of "Ralphie" "shooting my own eye out with these"
So you can blind your self or someone else with just a quick sweep. What about just the splash and reflection off of stuff. 
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Posted: 6/8/2019 9:48:31 PM EDT
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heres a nice review of the perst 3 and perst 4, green vis, upgraded output version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOBLxpYkg6MQuote HistoryQuoted:
heres a nice review of the perst 3 and perst 4, green vis, upgraded output version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOBLxpYkg6MI do believe you missed the section about 'programming' the switch per english manual translation You can also adjust brightness of LED indicators by pressing and holding on/off button and pressing + or – buttons.Short pressing one of the switches turns selected laser or illuminator constantly on. Pressing again will turn it off. Pressing and holding button will turn laser on and it will turn off after releasing the button. Double pressing the button turns on 2 Hz strobe mode. Double pressing and holding the button will turn 2 Hz strobe mode on and it will turn off after releasing the button. After turning the unit off, the power and mode settings are saved. |
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Posted: 6/9/2019 8:19:28 AM EDT
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heres a nice review of the perst 3 and perst 4, green vis, upgraded output version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOBLxpYkg6M |
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Posted: 6/9/2019 11:32:16 AM EDT
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Looking up that dog breed... (was set on a Mal)
Good vid, downloaded and saved. |
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Posted: 6/9/2019 6:03:01 PM EDT
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In the Black Phase Tactical video, the dot size of the IR laser designator (Perst 3 Green + model) sure looked huge. The bloom was distracting. The dot size and control of the Perst 4 model looked much better IMO. I wonder if it was the video, or if that is the result of the "+" model?
I would like to see some pics of that illuminator down range, 300 - 800 yards. It looks small in the video, but bet it would fill the screen of a PVS 22/30 nicely down range. |
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Posted: 6/10/2019 12:05:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/10/2019 2:09:04 AM EDT
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Can anybody measure the length of the pressure switch on one of these things?
I’m looking to replace my Midwest Industries rail to address my rail flex issues and I’m wondering if the switch or the laser unit will fit in the recess of a Cloud Defensive COR rail. |
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Posted: 6/10/2019 2:39:42 AM EDT
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Can anybody measure the length of the pressure switch on one of these things? I'm looking to replace my Midwest Industries rail to address my rail flex issues and I'm wondering if the switch or the laser unit will fit in the recess of a Cloud Defensive COR rail. 
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Posted: 6/10/2019 9:01:50 AM EDT
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Switch is right at 4" with the cable. Perst-4 is about 3.25" https://i.imgur.com/OTPkOz0.jpg https://i.imgur.com/iBCmtrc.jpg Cloud Defensive really needs to make longer rails and a version with the larger cutout up front. |
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Posted: 6/10/2019 10:14:11 AM EDT
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Played with the PERST 4 a bit this weekend. Had to wait until late evening to be able to line up the red laser with my scope. The intensity of the laser had to be turned all the way up to get any real distance but was able to get out to the end of my 200m range with it. Didn't shoot it much but overall satisfied with. Didn't take any photos though.
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Posted: 6/10/2019 2:46:20 PM EDT
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a second video further than 65 feet is being made. for the record, full power peq15s and more powerful things of that nature, look the same at that distance. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In the Black Phase Tactical video, the dot size of the IR laser designator (Perst 3 Green + model) sure looked huge. The bloom was distracting. The dot size and control of the Perst 4 model looked much better IMO. I wonder if it was the video, or if that is the result of the "+" model? I would like to see some pics of that illuminator down range, 300 - 800 yards. It looks small in the video, but bet it would fill the screen of a PVS 22/30 nicely down range. I own a (edit), so if the pointer is similar that would be fine. The (edit) has the option/advantage of keeping the diffuser lens cover on if needed. True the (edit) will bloom especially on high, but there is still a defined dot in the center of the bloom. Guessing the video just can't pick up the center dot definition. Looking forward to the next video. |
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Posted: 6/10/2019 11:10:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/10/2019 11:53:06 PM EDT
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a little confusing at the end if you were using Peq or Perst as you switched and didnt say
also living in remote alaska has made me so used to not seeing so much light pollution that you get, it would be nice to see less horizon filled distorting burns |
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Posted: 6/10/2019 11:59:57 PM EDT
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a little confusing at the end if you were using Peq or Perst as you switched and didnt say also living in remote alaska has made me so used to not seeing so much light pollution that you get, it would be nice to see less horizon filled distorting burns |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 12:35:44 AM EDT
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and was everything after than nothing but peq footage?
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Posted: 6/11/2019 11:26:05 AM EDT
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and was everything after than nothing but peq footage? |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 3:25:23 PM EDT
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something else you say?
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Posted: 6/11/2019 3:58:01 PM EDT
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if you dont know what a 100mw laser is, google is your friend.
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Posted: 6/11/2019 6:59:08 PM EDT
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something else you say? |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 7:16:44 PM EDT
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Because of perfectly wise and non-nefarious reasons. IM sent. |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 9:24:49 PM EDT
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THANK YOU. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because of perfectly wise and non-nefarious reasons. IM sent. 
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Posted: 6/11/2019 10:33:04 PM EDT
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Some of us are similarly afflicted.
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Posted: 6/12/2019 12:03:20 AM EDT
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everyone saying the bloom is too much to be useful, thats JUST the camera causing that. I have tried and tried to make it not look like that and cannot get it just right. the DOT is much smaller through the human eye than the camera is picking it up. golf ball vs basketball size white bloom.
heres some really crappy photos showing the laser at about 60-70 yards, looks like a massive bloom through the camera, in person its the size of a golf ball or baseball, you could literally shoot a cat at 70 yards with it. the last 2 photos are the ir illuminator on low power and then high power. super hard to hold the cam steady I apologize, but it is what it is. 
and here is the laser on full power at ~70yds. it LOOKS like a giant bloom next to the window (for size reference) but looking through it, its 1/5th the size of this bloom. the camera is picking up this monster halo around the actual dot and making it appear as all one big blob. 
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Posted: 6/12/2019 4:41:31 PM EDT
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I ordered a -4. If it works for me, I'll be getting rid of all my legacy stuff and picking up some -2s to replace them. I really hope it works half as good as you guys imply.
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Posted: 6/12/2019 4:43:09 PM EDT
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I ordered a -4. If it works for me, I'll be getting rid of all my legacy stuff and picking up some -2s to replace them. I really hope it works half as good as you guys imply. ETA I think I get what you're saying. The 4 as a test unit then replace the rest with PERST-2s if you like it |
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Posted: 6/12/2019 5:23:54 PM EDT
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Ditching IR illum? ETA I think I get what you're saying. The 4 as a test unit then replace the rest with PERST-2s if you like it |
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Posted: 6/12/2019 5:30:11 PM EDT
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No, I have a vampire for that gun. The -4 is nice and small and will fit it nicely. On the other guns, the large -2 would work well, and would eliminate the need for a separate flash light. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ditching IR illum? ETA I think I get what you're saying. The 4 as a test unit then replace the rest with PERST-2s if you like it I definitely want to give one of these a shot sometime soon. Good vid BPT! |
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Posted: 6/12/2019 7:16:53 PM EDT
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Nice job. Cameras never do lasers/illum justice. They look pretty dang good
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heres a nice review of the perst 3 and perst 4, green vis, upgraded output version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOBLxpYkg6M |
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