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Posted: 6/29/2019 4:10:32 PM EDT
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Would anyone with CAD skills be willing to make a PEQ LEAF style front sight that is designed for the Perst 3 and could be 3D printed or something. It would be nice to have but I seriously doubt Railscales would bother to make one for such a niche product so some homebrew is in order.
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Posted: 6/29/2019 4:15:00 PM EDT
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Would anyone with CAD skills be willing to make a PEQ LEAF style front sight that is designed for the Perst 3 and could be 3D printed or something. It would be nice to have but I seriously doubt Railscales would bother to make one for such a niche product so some homebrew is in order. Just a thought. |
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Posted: 6/29/2019 4:17:15 PM EDT
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yup, saw it. thanks.
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Posted: 6/29/2019 9:16:36 PM EDT
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Anyone who ordered a Perst-3 or similar from Ivan Tactical, how long did it take to receive your package stateside?
Starting to get a little nervous... |
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Posted: 6/29/2019 9:19:02 PM EDT
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Anyone who ordered a Perst-3 or similar from Ivan Tactical, how long did it take to receive your package stateside? Starting to get a little nervous... |
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Posted: 6/29/2019 9:54:00 PM EDT
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Anyone order direct from ZenitCo? How long did it take ?
I talked to them they seemed legit 100% feedback. They even told me if I get anything defective they would fix it and lifetime warranty. 
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Posted: 6/29/2019 9:58:24 PM EDT
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Anyone reading this that had issues with there ZenitCo systems? Please post if you read this I’m sure we would all love to know. I have a holosun I ran hard with very big caliber stuff and it keeps going. I’m hoping for even better with this. I’ve had LDI/Steiner stuff not work and fail . This LAM game is a mess. I love hearing feedback from direct end users I don’t care if you just shooting hogs late at night. Please post any and ALL feedback on these units.
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Posted: 6/29/2019 10:19:22 PM EDT
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Anyone who ordered a Perst-3 or similar from Ivan Tactical, how long did it take to receive your package stateside? Starting to get a little nervous... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Anyone who ordered a Perst-3 or similar from Ivan Tactical, how long did it take to receive your package stateside? Starting to get a little nervous... Quoted:I selected DHL express when I bought my Perst 2 and it really was 4 days door to door $60 for express shipping vs $30 for regular, that was a no brainer on an $1800 laser |
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Posted: 6/29/2019 10:25:07 PM EDT
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edit misread please delete
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Posted: 6/30/2019 2:06:52 AM EDT
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Would anyone with CAD skills be willing to make a PEQ LEAF style front sight that is designed for the Perst 3 and could be 3D printed or something. It would be nice to have but I seriously doubt Railscales would bother to make one for such a niche product so some homebrew is in order. Just a thought. |
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Posted: 6/30/2019 2:19:43 AM EDT
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Anyone who ordered a Perst-3 or similar from Ivan Tactical, how long did it take to receive your package stateside? Starting to get a little nervous... Quoted:I selected DHL express when I bought my Perst 2 and it really was 4 days door to door $60 for express shipping vs $30 for regular, that was a no brainer on an $1800 laser I'm way past 4 days. |
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Posted: 6/30/2019 2:24:25 AM EDT
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about 3 weeks. 1 week in Russia, 1 week somewhere between Russia and USA, 1 from NY to NV Thanks for the response! |
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Posted: 6/30/2019 12:04:32 PM EDT
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I ordered 10 days ago, but there has been no movement via the tracking number history in the last 5 days. It says it was released from Russia, but then nothing. Contacted Ivan Tac via email and through their website to see if they thought there was a problem, but no response in the last 2 days yet. Thanks for the response! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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about 3 weeks. 1 week in Russia, 1 week somewhere between Russia and USA, 1 from NY to NV Thanks for the response! |
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Posted: 6/30/2019 1:56:11 PM EDT
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Ordered a 4 from Ivan on the 16th. Shipped the 17th. "Released from Russian" on the 22nd.
Not worried. Figure it might take 6-8 weeks. If I don't have it by mid August I might be concerned. |
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Posted: 6/30/2019 3:22:58 PM EDT
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I ordered a Perst-3 on the 24th. Mine is somewhere between Russia and the USA as well. |
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Posted: 6/30/2019 5:24:05 PM EDT
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How you guys zeroing the illuminator in the perst 3?
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Posted: 7/1/2019 2:25:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Use Fusion 360, its actually very easy to make 3d objects once you get the initial controls down. Quote HistoryQuoted: Use Fusion 360, its actually very easy to make 3d objects once you get the initial controls down. Quoted:
How you guys zeroing the illuminator in the perst 3? If you refer to part #12 (Illuminator adjustment) on the Perst-3 that is what I am referring to. I am unclear on the function of part #20 (Main illuminator adjustment), maybe those with Perst-3s can chime in. @BPT1775 (don't know how to tag people on ARFCOM or if it's even possible, I just browse mainly) |
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Posted: 7/1/2019 3:45:50 AM EDT
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Black Phase Tactical has the FDE/Desert Perst-3+ green Never heard of them before but I'm very tempted |
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Posted: 7/1/2019 10:19:47 AM EDT
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Illuminator Adjustment
To add: At the very bottom of the Parts/Instruction page, it says you should ONLY (emphasis theirs) use screws 12, I wouldn't touch 20. 
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Posted: 7/1/2019 10:48:36 AM EDT
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I don't have a Perst-3 but I do have there 2IKS and looking at the pic looks like the same PITA adjustment method that took me several hrs to figure out and zero. What I found on mine.
They had the laser mounted to a steel plate with another steel plate right behind it. In the front plate they had two little tiny allens 2mm and a hole right next to each one of them. In the bottom of that hole there is another little tiny allen 3mm. I can't recall what was what.... but one size locks it in place (like jam screws) and the other size does the adjustment. A little is a lot.... think 1/4 turn moves it feet at 25 yrds. And then once you have it adjusted you lock down the jam screws and oh joy find that moves the zero a couple of feet..... so it's a real PITA to zero... but once it's set it seems to be rock solid and who knows.... maybe there is a way to use all 4 screws together to get it zeroed... I don't know. Just the process I went though. Hope it helps. But again this was on there 2IKS and not a Perst-3 but they are both made by the same Russians.... and looks like they used the same method in the pic.... Standing by to hear if there's a quick easy way to zero these buggers.... |
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Posted: 7/1/2019 7:46:22 PM EDT
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Russia good
Class 3 bad |
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Posted: 7/1/2019 9:46:32 PM EDT
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Russia good Class 3 bad |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 12:07:55 AM EDT
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That's a whole lot of information there Sally. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Russia good Class 3 bad -Sally Jesse Raphael |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 4:21:51 AM EDT
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Full power vs. neutered power -Sally Jesse Raphael Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Russia good Class 3 bad -Sally Jesse Raphael  I’d rather an Oprah style gift approach for us all.  Attached File 
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Posted: 7/2/2019 9:16:08 AM EDT
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What's the latest scoop on how wide you can adjust the flood of the illuminator?
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Posted: 7/2/2019 10:00:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/2/2019 10:01:34 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/2/2019 5:22:58 PM EDT
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I've been MIA from this thread for months, due to moving and leaving the collection with my folks. Glad to see it is still going strong, hopefully it doesn't get too well known if you know what I mean. Unfortunately I only got to shoot my PERST3 once after moving and I am not sure when I'll get another opportunity.
The only thing I can offer is that I think mine took 5 weeks for delivery from Ivan Tactical. I want to say it spent 3 weeks at JFK clearing customs. The guys at Ivan Tac are great! |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 6:04:34 PM EDT
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I ordered a Perst-3 on the 24th. Mine is somewhere between Russia and the USA as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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about 3 weeks. 1 week in Russia, 1 week somewhere between Russia and USA, 1 from NY to NV Thanks for the response! From the time it says "released from Russia", it took 2 days to see any more movement. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 8:08:01 PM EDT
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Damn... ordered June 19, says released from Russia on the 24th. No tracking movement since.
I guess it's kinda a crap shoot. |
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Posted: 7/2/2019 9:19:04 PM EDT
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I don't have a Perst-3 but I do have there 2IKS and looking at the pic looks like the same PITA adjustment method that took me several hrs to figure out and zero. What I found on mine. They had the laser mounted to a steel plate with another steel plate right behind it. In the front plate they had two little tiny allens 2mm and a hole right next to each one of them. In the bottom of that hole there is another little tiny allen 3mm. I can't recall what was what.... but one size locks it in place (like jam screws) and the other size does the adjustment. A little is a lot.... think 1/4 turn moves it feet at 25 yrds. And then once you have it adjusted you lock down the jam screws and oh joy find that moves the zero a couple of feet..... so it's a real PITA to zero... but once it's set it seems to be rock solid and who knows.... maybe there is a way to use all 4 screws together to get it zeroed... I don't know. Just the process I went though. Hope it helps. But again this was on there 2IKS and not a Perst-3 but they are both made by the same Russians.... and looks like they used the same method in the pic.... Standing by to hear if there's a quick easy way to zero these buggers.... 
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Posted: 7/3/2019 1:34:42 AM EDT
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Anybody wanna tell me how I’m supposed to get 18” worth of shit on a 9” rail?
 Attached File Attached File Attached FileI’m thinking of putting the light at 3 o clock on the rail with a remote pressure switch at 9 o clock, then using no switch at all on the Perst-3 and just using my thumb on the back switch? |
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Posted: 7/3/2019 10:36:54 AM EDT
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Anybody wanna tell me how I'm supposed to get 18" worth of shit on a 9" rail? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/90704/294FE0B1-57FC-4984-A006-134149A5264E_jpeg-1002228.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/90704/36D2F256-FE3B-4B1B-A8AE-838DD37129D7_jpeg-1002229.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/90704/F7B06C8F-7449-4479-9F8C-75AB60345BB9_jpeg-1002230.JPG I'm thinking of putting the light at 3 o clock on the rail with a remote pressure switch at 9 o clock, then using no switch at all on the Perst-3 and just using my thumb on the back switch? |
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Posted: 7/3/2019 12:19:23 PM EDT
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Small issue — the switch rail mounting screws rust VERY quickly. The image was taken today. I haven’t had the rifle out in the rain, but it is plenty humid here in AL.
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Posted: 7/3/2019 12:50:40 PM EDT
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Anybody wanna tell me how I'm supposed to get 18" worth of shit on a 9" rail? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/90704/294FE0B1-57FC-4984-A006-134149A5264E_jpeg-1002228.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/90704/36D2F256-FE3B-4B1B-A8AE-838DD37129D7_jpeg-1002229.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/90704/F7B06C8F-7449-4479-9F8C-75AB60345BB9_jpeg-1002230.JPG I'm thinking of putting the light at 3 o clock on the rail with a remote pressure switch at 9 o clock, then using no switch at all on the Perst-3 and just using my thumb on the back switch? I try to run laser devices as far back to optic as possible, but in this case I run it all the way forward against the backwards front flip up. I don't run the switch with the Perst either on my mk18. Using the fire button on top. The switch, although a very nice piece of kit, just don't fit. |
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Posted: 7/3/2019 1:49:09 PM EDT
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Anybody wanna tell me how I’m supposed to get 18” worth of shit on a 9” rail? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Anybody wanna tell me how I’m supposed to get 18” worth of shit on a 9” rail? I’m thinking of putting the light at 3 o clock on the rail with a remote pressure switch at 9 o clock, then using no switch at all on the Perst-3 and just using my thumb on the back switch? |
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Posted: 7/3/2019 10:20:32 PM EDT
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Small issue the switch rail mounting screws rust VERY quickly. The image was taken today. I haven't had the rifle out in the rain, but it is plenty humid here in AL. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/376630/34951CD1-2553-40F1-9E24-D70C3700A2D8-1002489.jpg I know we can be picky about the little details but I doubt it's an indicator of ZenitCo quality. As you know, they wouuld probably say 'Nyet, screw is fine' |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 12:53:35 AM EDT
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I own a cqbl with unity tac adapter married to a surefire m600 ir light.
How does the perst 3 compare for anyone that has owned the cqbl? |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 1:40:55 PM EDT
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Perst-3 built in illuminator blows civi legal DBALs, hands down. Plus having the ability to turn on IR laser and IR Illuminator at the same time with one button is nice. The only down side is the illuminator isnt able to be opened up more.
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Posted: 7/5/2019 7:34:48 PM EDT
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I own a cqbl with unity tac adapter married to a surefire m600 ir light. How does the perst 3 compare for anyone that has owned the cqbl? |
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Posted: 7/5/2019 7:44:40 PM EDT
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Perst-3 built in illuminator blows civi legal DBALs, hands down. Plus having the ability to turn on IR laser and IR Illuminator at the same time with one button is nice. The only down side is the illuminator isnt able to be opened up more. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 4:54:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: put the lens cover on. how big of a circle are you guys wanting? I literally have or have played with most all the common lasers out there. atpial-c , peq15 35/45 , , , , and mawl-c. the perst 3 illum circle is every bit as big. as the others. im curious now if its a lack of having hands on with the other units?
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Posted: 7/6/2019 9:29:21 AM EDT
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 Attached File Attached FileI'm going to change out the tape switch for the ST07 with LCS. But this is how it'll be for the most part. I also "subdued" some of the white lettering with Aluminum Black. Range time next week for some testing. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 11:54:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Surprised there isn't a measuring standard, lol. Max/Min diameter at 50ft or something. Mark the side of your house with tape every foot or something |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 12:15:51 PM EDT
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Wish I had one to compare to my Luna ELIR-3. Need to figure out how to get someone to send me one to do some through the scope video for comparison.
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Posted: 7/6/2019 12:52:48 PM EDT
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Wish I had one to compare to my Luna ELIR-3. Need to figure out how to get someone to send me one to do some through the scope video for comparison. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 1:40:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't have my Perst-3 yet, but one thing I'm certain of, the Perst should be much much more robust. I've gone through 3 Luna units. They just don't take much if any abuse. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 2:30:01 PM EDT
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Hunting out of vehicles/ATVs. It seems as though any impact to the side of the head causes it to become loose or snap off. In truth I've killed 2, the third one is still kinda working, but needs bicycle tubing around the head to hold it together. I don't use it on my guns anymore. I use it on my Spotter60 when a PVS is attached. I have DBALS that have taken a lot more abuse and are still fine. Except for damn battery drain...
Willing to live with the extra weight of the Perst units if it gives me more robustness. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 2:34:32 PM EDT
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Hunting out of vehicles/ATVs. It seems as though any impact to the side of the head causes it to become loose or snap off. In truth I've killed 2, the third one is still kinda working, but needs bicycle tubing around the head to hold it together. I don't use it on my guns anymore. I use it on my Spotter60 when a PVS is attached. I have DBALS that have taken a lot more abuse and are still fine. Except for damn battery drain... Willing to live with the extra weight of the Perst units if it gives me more robustness. |
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Posted: 7/6/2019 4:00:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gotcha. I use mine for coyote hunting, but haven't had any issues yet. Fingers crossed. I wish I could swing one of these things. Maybe one day, but I'd really like to see a comparo of it through a scope. Seems like everyone wants to do video through a stupid 14. That doesn't do a lot of good for something like a Perst-3 using it for long range illumination. Lol |
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