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For the "hardcore" SS/Wet tumbler guys... The "ultimate" Tumblers... |
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Did you check the prices? 12T, $700 24T, $865 36T, $1,000 I'll pass. |
yeah... insane. BUT they have a 40 lb one!
Cabela's seems to have the best price for the Thumbler's one. Although the link posted for the kit from STM seems pretty reasonable too... (since you get the media & separator) I was looking for barrels to make one, that's when I stumbled across those. |
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Ok I'm doing this  Did a google search and the best deal I found was at Brownell's/sinclair side of the house.
Thumler's Tumbler Stainless Steel Tumbling Kit $219.95 for hi-speed "B" model and 5 lbs of stainless steel media, used the "DFM" code at checkout for $20 off that! Got the McFeely's knobs also, thanks again Dryflash for the write-up. I noticed quite a few websites we're sold out, me thinks you may have had something to do with that  Good job!
Blackops_1. Ordered above today and placed order from McFeely's for knobs. Waiting is gonna be the hardest part. Will keep you advised as items come in. Be Good, Medic2RN |
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Ok I'm doing this Did a google search and the best deal I found was at Brownell's/sinclair side of the house.
Thumler's Tumbler Stainless Steel Tumbling Kit $219.95 for hi-speed "B" model and 5 lbs of stainless steel media, used the "DFM" code at checkout for $20 off that! Got the McFeely's knobs also, thanks again Dryflash for the write-up. I noticed quite a few websites we're sold out, me thinks you may have had something to do with that Good job!
Blackops_1. Ordered above today and placed order from McFeely's for knobs. Waiting is gonna be the hardest part. Will keep you advised as items come in. Be Good, Medic2RN Placed the order on January 2 with an "In Stock" status. Today I received an e-mail from Sinclair with an "Out od Stock" status. I called and asked why would something be "Out of Stock" over a holiday weekend after an "In Stock" status. The rep on the phone couldn't really answer the question, but did say that they expect a shipment into the warehouse soon. I told them I ordered it from them because of the "In Stock" status and I would be giving them a few days. We'll see. I guess I'm just annoyed that they pulled some BS like that. Be Good, Medic2RN |
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2 more ordered including knobs for me and a buddy. Clean brass for all.  You will love the upgraded knobs. Looking foward to your brass bling pic. those stock wing nuts are surpisingly painful lol. I'll have to get those knobs. Yep, I'm glad I have mine. Went ahead and bought 8 when I placed the order. |
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I've been SS tumbling for about 4 months. Some tips I have to offer:
1) You can buy better knobs (several different varieties) for the tumbler lid at Ace Hardware. 1/4"X20 if not mistaken 2) Someone asked about the certainty that all pins are removed from bottle neck cases when using a media separator. I can tell you 100%- if you use a good separator. I use the RCBS media separator, and fill the bottom pan at least 1/2 full of water (1.5 gallons). Spin the basket slowly back and forth for about 1 minute. Empty the water and pins out, then close it back up and spin the basket FAST to help remove more water (kinda like the spin cycle on a washing machine). There will be NO pins inside the cases, including .223, except for the case where two pins wedge into the flash hole. 3) Set the tumbler on a piece of that bumpy rubber toolbox drawer liner... it won't budge when operating. 4) I like to remove the rubber liner from the drum BEFORE starting any rinse processing. Dip the water out with a cup, then lift the liner out. This allows me to aggressively rinse without banging the drum around in the sink. It also keeps the drum perfectly dry- no chance of rust. 5) I use microfiber towels to mass-dry the case exteriors after the rinse & spin. I bought 16"x16" microfiber towels at the dollar store, throw a pile of shells on them, grab the ends, and do the bowling-ball polish action. These towels really suck all the moisture off the cases. 6) If you are in a hurry, you can hit each shell with a quick blast of compressed air in the primer pocket to basically remove all interior water. I use one of those nozzles that can actually fit just inside the neck of a .223 and seal. One quick blast, and the water is gone. I shoot the air into the necks of .223, and the primer pockets of everything else. I give them about 10 more minutes to air dry, and they are ready to bag or load. 7) To help eliminate water spots, use cold water for your final rinse. -rj- |
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I'm in! Tumbler and media on order and shipped today! Post a bling pic and we can welcome you to the club. I believe he means to say pics or it didn't happen :) No I posted what I meant sir. What you said is a GD thing. We have higher standards here.
And not everyone has a digital camera or knows how to post pics. |
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And not everyone has a digital camera or knows how to post pics.
Ummm...that would be me.  You guys are killin' me!!! I couldn't help myself. I just ordered a Model 'B' and SS media from Buffalo Arms today.
Thanks for all the wonderful information/pics in this thread!!! |
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And not everyone has a digital camera or knows how to post pics.
Ummm...that would be me. You guys are killin' me!!! I couldn't help myself. I just ordered a Model 'B' and SS media from Buffalo Arms today.
Thanks for all the wonderful information/pics in this thread!!! If you ever want to learn how to post pics, send me an IM. I will help. |
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I'm in! Tumbler and media on order and shipped today! Where did you order from? I'm still waiting on my back order from sinclairintl.com that had an "In Stock" status when I ordered my media and tumbler. Be Good, Medic2RN Medic, I ordered my tumbler (high speed) and 6lbs of SS media here: http://www.buffaloarms.com/case_tumblers_and_media_pr-3889.aspx I ordered this to decap without having to use a press. Can be ordered in the caliber of your choosing. http://www.lewilsondirect.com/punchandbasesets.aspx A little more than some outlets...but they are in stock for popular calibers. |
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Been lurking for a little while and saw this thread. Decided that if I was going to make the leap into reloading, this was going to be how I cleaned my brass. I am starting small...9mm as of now, but have started collecting the 5.56 to begin cleaning. Here are some 9mm I just got done with today, they had just been decapped/sized so was giving them a rinse to get the lube off.
http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/001.jpg Don't have a media separater yet, so as of right now, it is done by hand. Put the tumbler case into the sink, with the water going to try and hand pick them one by one. Takes a little while, but I get to inspect every case while putting them away for drying. http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/002.jpg Here they are set in a baking pan with some paper towels to dry while I am trying to pick the others out of the media. http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/005.jpg Fresh out of the oven, ready to be primed/loaded. I will say the first thing I learned about cleaning is more isn't always better. Kind of went over board thinking that the lemishine would work a little "extra" turns out I was wrong. Ha ha. Had the pink discoloration I am guessing from an acidic reaction, so put them back in the tumbler with a lot less lemishine. Looked brand new. Just wanted to say thanks for the inspiration. Still kind of feeling my way through the reloading process, and I am sure I will have some questions to come, but have really enjoyed the journey so far. I will post up some pics of my first reloads. |
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From other post in this thread it was my understanding you still needed to use dry media to clean lube off? When you say you gave them a rinse to get the lube off, do you mean they had already been through once to clean them and this was just a secondary dip to get the lube off or did you size before cleaning? I'm also new to reloading and have my SS tumbler on the way.
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Been lurking for a little while and saw this thread. Decided that if I was going to make the leap into reloading, this was going to be how I cleaned my brass. I am starting small...9mm as of now, but have started collecting the 5.56 to begin cleaning. Here are some 9mm I just got done with today, they had just been decapped/sized so was giving them a rinse to get the lube off. http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/001.jpg Don't have a media separater yet, so as of right now, it is done by hand. Put the tumbler case into the sink, with the water going to try and hand pick them one by one. Takes a little while, but I get to inspect every case while putting them away for drying. http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/002.jpg Here they are set in a baking pan with some paper towels to dry while I am trying to pick the others out of the media. http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/005.jpg Fresh out of the oven, ready to be primed/loaded. I will say the first thing I learned about cleaning is more isn't always better. Kind of went over board thinking that the lemishine would work a little "extra" turns out I was wrong. Ha ha. Had the pink discoloration I am guessing from an acidic reaction, so put them back in the tumbler with a lot less lemishine. Looked brand new. Just wanted to say thanks for the inspiration. Still kind of feeling my way through the reloading process, and I am sure I will have some questions to come, but have really enjoyed the journey so far. I will post up some pics of my first reloads. |
| Dryflash says he uses corn cob media to clean off the sizing lube. Corn cob is far less dusty than walnut, and it doesn't take very long to clean lube off of cases. As far as I can tell, the only drawback of that step is that your basic vibratory tumbler probably can't handle as much brass and media as you'll need for a whole Thumler-load of processed brass. |
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From other post in this thread it was my understanding you still needed to use dry media to clean lube off? When you say you gave them a rinse to get the lube off, do you mean they had already been through once to clean them and this was just a secondary dip to get the lube off or did you size before cleaning? I'm also new to reloading and have my SS tumbler on the way. Quoted:
Been lurking for a little while and saw this thread. Decided that if I was going to make the leap into reloading, this was going to be how I cleaned my brass. I am starting small...9mm as of now, but have started collecting the 5.56 to begin cleaning. Here are some 9mm I just got done with today, they had just been decapped/sized so was giving them a rinse to get the lube off. http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/001.jpg Don't have a media separater yet, so as of right now, it is done by hand. Put the tumbler case into the sink, with the water going to try and hand pick them one by one. Takes a little while, but I get to inspect every case while putting them away for drying. http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/002.jpg Here they are set in a baking pan with some paper towels to dry while I am trying to pick the others out of the media. http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/005.jpg Fresh out of the oven, ready to be primed/loaded. I will say the first thing I learned about cleaning is more isn't always better. Kind of went over board thinking that the lemishine would work a little "extra" turns out I was wrong. Ha ha. Had the pink discoloration I am guessing from an acidic reaction, so put them back in the tumbler with a lot less lemishine. Looked brand new. Just wanted to say thanks for the inspiration. Still kind of feeling my way through the reloading process, and I am sure I will have some questions to come, but have really enjoyed the journey so far. I will post up some pics of my first reloads. i wet tumble to remove my lube, i don't want any dust around and i got rid of my dry tumblers. it works just fine for me. but i process my brass in batches and i have plenty processed and don't have to be waiting for the brass to dry to load it. if a person doesn't have a lot of brass i can see using the corn cob to clean the lube so you can load it right away. |
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Been lurking for a little while and saw this thread. Decided that if I was going to make the leap into reloading, this was going to be how I cleaned my brass. I am starting small...9mm as of now, but have started collecting the 5.56 to begin cleaning. Here are some 9mm I just got done with today, they had just been decapped/sized so was giving them a rinse to get the lube off. http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/001.jpg Don't have a media separater yet, so as of right now, it is done by hand. Put the tumbler case into the sink, with the water going to try and hand pick them one by one. Takes a little while, but I get to inspect every case while putting them away for drying. http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/002.jpg Here they are set in a baking pan with some paper towels to dry while I am trying to pick the others out of the media. http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/005.jpg Fresh out of the oven, ready to be primed/loaded. I will say the first thing I learned about cleaning is more isn't always better. Kind of went over board thinking that the lemishine would work a little "extra" turns out I was wrong. Ha ha. Had the pink discoloration I am guessing from an acidic reaction, so put them back in the tumbler with a lot less lemishine. Looked brand new. Just wanted to say thanks for the inspiration. Still kind of feeling my way through the reloading process, and I am sure I will have some questions to come, but have really enjoyed the journey so far. I will post up some pics of my first reloads. Welcome to Arfcom and the Reloading Forum.
I lurked for a while before I joined also. You are off to a good start. And welcome to the Bling brass club. Great pics. Don't be afraid to ask reloading questions, we will help. |
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From other post in this thread it was my understanding you still needed to use dry media to clean lube off? When you say you gave them a rinse to get the lube off, do you mean they had already been through once to clean them and this was just a secondary dip to get the lube off or did you size before cleaning? I'm also new to reloading and have my SS tumbler on the way. Quoted:
Been lurking for a little while and saw this thread. Decided that if I was going to make the leap into reloading, this was going to be how I cleaned my brass. I am starting small...9mm as of now, but have started collecting the 5.56 to begin cleaning. Here are some 9mm I just got done with today, they had just been decapped/sized so was giving them a rinse to get the lube off. http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/001.jpg Don't have a media separator yet, so as of right now, it is done by hand. Put the tumbler case into the sink, with the water going to try and hand pick them one by one. Takes a little while, but I get to inspect every case while putting them away for drying. http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/002.jpg Here they are set in a baking pan with some paper towels to dry while I am trying to pick the others out of the media. http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/005.jpg Fresh out of the oven, ready to be primed/loaded. I will say the first thing I learned about cleaning is more isn't always better. Kind of went over board thinking that the Lemishine would work a little "extra" turns out I was wrong. Ha ha. Had the pink discoloration I am guessing from an acidic reaction, so put them back in the tumbler with a lot less Lemishine. Looked brand new. Just wanted to say thanks for the inspiration. Still kind of feeling my way through the reloading process, and I am sure I will have some questions to come, but have really enjoyed the journey so far. I will post up some pics of my first reloads. One of those questions that has 2 answers, just depends how you want to do things. You can wet tumble off sizing lube, or dry tumble off lube with plain corn cob. I have done both and discovered something. If a squeaky clean case is run through one of my progressives, 9mm, 45 ACP, 223 or 7.62x39, I have problems. With pistol cals it's the belling process, the belling tool/powder drop tube wants to stick to the inside of the case mouth when ram is lowered. Like loading brand new cases before they have a chance to tarnish. Never noticed this when dry tumbling as that process didn't clean the inside of the case. So dry tumbling in plain corn cob puts just enough "lube" in the inside of the cases to stop the sticking. Rifle cases the same but to a lesser degree. I believe this was first posted by W157, and I concur. I have polished the powder drop tube, didn't help. I'm glad I kept a dry tumbler around. |
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From other post in this thread it was my understanding you still needed to use dry media to clean lube off? When you say you gave them a rinse to get the lube off, do you mean they had already been through once to clean them and this was just a secondary dip to get the lube off or did you size before cleaning? I'm also new to reloading and have my SS tumbler on the way. Quoted:
Been lurking for a little while and saw this thread. Decided that if I was going to make the leap into reloading, this was going to be how I cleaned my brass. I am starting small...9mm as of now, but have started collecting the 5.56 to begin cleaning. Here are some 9mm I just got done with today, they had just been decapped/sized so was giving them a rinse to get the lube off. http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/001.jpg Don't have a media separator yet, so as of right now, it is done by hand. Put the tumbler case into the sink, with the water going to try and hand pick them one by one. Takes a little while, but I get to inspect every case while putting them away for drying. http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/002.jpg Here they are set in a baking pan with some paper towels to dry while I am trying to pick the others out of the media. http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/af-atc/005.jpg Fresh out of the oven, ready to be primed/loaded. I will say the first thing I learned about cleaning is more isn't always better. Kind of went over board thinking that the Lemishine would work a little "extra" turns out I was wrong. Ha ha. Had the pink discoloration I am guessing from an acidic reaction, so put them back in the tumbler with a lot less Lemishine. Looked brand new. Just wanted to say thanks for the inspiration. Still kind of feeling my way through the reloading process, and I am sure I will have some questions to come, but have really enjoyed the journey so far. I will post up some pics of my first reloads. One of those questions that has 2 answers, just depends how you want to do things. You can wet tumble off sizing lube, or dry tumble off lube with plain corn cob. I have done both and discovered something. If a squeaky clean case is run through one of my progressives, 9mm, 45 ACP, 223 or 7.62x39, I have problems. With pistol cals it's the belling process, the belling tool/powder drop tube wants to stick to the inside of the case mouth when ram is lowered. Like loading brand new cases before they have a chance to tarnish. Never noticed this when dry tumbling as that process didn't clean the inside of the case. So dry tumbling in plain corn cob puts just enough "lube" in the inside of the cases to stop the sticking. Rifle cases the same but to a lesser degree. I believe this was first posted by W157, and I concur. I have polished the powder drop tube, didn't help. I'm glad I kept a dry tumbler around. As of right now I only have a wet tumbler, so I will make it work for now. I will have to put some thought into a dry tumbler a little later on. You said you had issues with your progressive with the wet tumbled brass, how about a turret press? Think the turret will have the same problems as the progressive? |
Evening fellas!  Received my tumbler today. Attempted to paint the inside per dryflash3's method.
The paint is 'orange-peeling pretty bad. I see in your pics that you had it happen a little bit...but I seem to be getting more of it. 
Anybody else run into this problem? Any solutions from the painters out there. Thanks.
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From other post in this thread it was my understanding you still needed to use dry media to clean lube off? When you say you gave them a rinse to get the lube off, do you mean they had already been through once to clean them and this was just a secondary dip to get the lube off or did you size before cleaning? I'm also new to reloading and have my SS tumbler on the way. I use Lee Lube for a couple of reasons but one reason is that it is water soluble. So I lube, size and drop it back into a pail of water with dish detergent, rotate a little while, then rinse it out again. So for me we're looking at two rinses to get to loading. |
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Evening fellas! Received my tumbler today. Attempted to paint the inside per dryflash3's method.
The paint is 'orange-peeling pretty bad. I see in your pics that you had it happen a little bit...but I seem to be getting more of it.
Anybody else run into this problem? Any solutions from the painters out there. Thanks.Let the paint completely dry, scrape off the orange peeled paint, then wipe it down with alcohol, let it dry then try repainting. Sound like there was some oil contamination from production on the drum. |
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Evening fellas! Received my tumbler today. Attempted to paint the inside per dryflash3's method.
The paint is 'orange-peeling pretty bad. I see in your pics that you had it happen a little bit...but I seem to be getting more of it.
Anybody else run into this problem? Any solutions from the painters out there. Thanks.Surface must be clean before painting. Sand off paint you don't like, clean metal with alcohol or other solvent, repaint. |
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Sand off paint you don't like, clean metal with alcohol or other solvent, repaint. Yup. Did that. Cleaned surface with 91% IPA prior to painting.  I'll try sanding it real good, then another IPA treatment.You may have to try a stronger cleaning solvent. MEK, ect. be careful with the potent stuff. |
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Call these dumb questions, and I did not read the whole thread so please forgive me.
Do you HAVE to remove the primers to do this? What if I just want to dump in a few hundred 45's that have been fired but not decapped? And if you were only doing pistol brass, is this type of setup worth it? Thanks! |
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Quoted: Call these dumb questions, and I did not read the whole thread so please forgive me. Do you HAVE to remove the primers to do this? Yes, a universal decapping die is used. What if I just want to dump in a few hundred 45's that have been fired but not decapped? One of the reasons to wet tumble is to have clean primer pockets. So you loose this by not decapping. Case drying time is doubled by leaving the primer in.Also certain primers will react with Lemishine and the primer will corrode into the case. when you do try to decap, the top of the primer falls off leaving the sides of the primer in the primer pocket. Case is then recycled. And if you were only doing pistol brass, is this type of setup worth it? Depends how clean you want your brass. You saw the opening post and the bling pics. Your decision. Thanks! eta I switched editors, so my posts may look goofy until I figure it out.  |
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Sinclair Int'l had their "Thumler's Tumbler Stainless Steel Tumbling Kit" for a great price (it really helps to have that C&R license and the discounts that go with it!), so my wet tumbling system is on order. I'm looking forward to getting it and diving in! (To tumbling with stainless media, not literally into the tumbler-I'm sure I wouldn't fit! )
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| There is a good chance this has already been answered in the thread, but my eyes started to blur after reading like 5 of them...... I'm about ready to rock and roll my my first batch (waiting for the paint to dry) but I don't drink anything that comes in 2 liter bottles nor do I shot .45 so does anyone know either volume or weight of the lemishine to add and the amount of brass I can add so I can come up with my own measurement devices? |
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There is a good chance this has already been answered in the thread, but my eyes started to blur after reading like 5 of them...... I'm about ready to rock and roll my my first batch (waiting for the paint to dry) but I don't drink anything that comes in 2 liter bottles nor do I shot .45 so does anyone know either volume or weight of the lemishine to add and the amount of brass I can add so I can come up with my own measurement devices? 1/2-1 tsp lemi shine for the thumler should be about right 5lbs media and max of 4lbs cases and 3 tbs of dish soap |
[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Wet tumbling with SS media, lots of pics New info second post 10-02-2015. (Page 8 of 23)
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