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Posted: 2/28/2025 6:44:37 PM EDT
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In stock as of this post on Steyr's webstore: 9mm AUG Mags |
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They won't ever. They already publicly stated in an official company video that they don't even have the tooling anymore. The few that they just recently sold out of in 4 minutes or less were ones that had likely been misplaced and were found during the recent inventory after change of ownership. A few people got very extremely lucky. I talked to Steyr about those mp88 mags and a few other things. Good news is they do have some clear waffle 9mm mags on the way. |
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They already publicly stated in an official company video that they don't even have the tooling anymore. That does not make sense. They just released the green stock 9mm AUG and don't have replacement mags for them. I knew they didn't have the tooling for the adapters anymore but the mags? |
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Originally Posted By texasyid: That does not make sense. They just released the green stock 9mm AUG and don't have replacement mags for them. I knew they didn't have the tooling for the adapters anymore but the mags? Originally Posted By texasyid: They already publicly stated in an official company video that they don't even have the tooling anymore. That does not make sense. They just released the green stock 9mm AUG and don't have replacement mags for them. I knew they didn't have the tooling for the adapters anymore but the mags? Yeah, it makes zero sense to release a $2000+ rifle that uses proprietary mags, includes only one magazine, and to have none available for sale to owners. Sure, you might be able to find them on the secondary market for $150 or more each. You also might not be able to. A PCC with only one magazine is only slightly less useless than a PCC with no magazine. I hope Steyr isn’t intentionally trying to capitalize on the nostalgia for the MP88 with no intention of supporting it with the most basic of accessories. If they were going to do that they should be abundantly clear that no spare mags will be available. They haven’t done that. I suspect there are more mags in Austria and we just get to wait for them to come in piecemeal, like everything else Steyr sells. Hopefully the Glock mag adapter they have been showing off recently will be available soon as a stand alone part and work with the MP88 trigger group. That might excuse the lack of available MP88 mags in the long run. |
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An observation: When the mp88 conversion kits sold out, they were immediately removed from their site. When the mp88 mags sold out, they remained their site despite some claiming they'd never be available again. They were available again recently, sold out again, and some claim they'll never be available again (again), and they still remain on their site. |
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That's what their official video and their spokesperson dude said. Maybe they either got or gave bad intel or even miscommunication between star of Austria and star USA happened. I'll reach out to them and see if they forgot to take them down. |
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Originally Posted By TSH77769: That's what their official video and their spokesperson dude said. Maybe they either got or gave bad intel or even miscommunication between star of Austria and star USA happened. I'll reach out to them and see if they forgot to take them down. I'm not doubting your information, I'm just hoping the source was wrong. It really doesn't make sense for them to keep releasing rifles that use mags they don't have any of and can't make more of. Magazines are a huge profit center. Steyr lists the AUG as available in 9mm on their website. In usual Steyr fashion it hasn't be updated to show the 9mm A3 M2 that is currently available, but it shows the limited run AUG MP88 and says: "We are kicking off the reintroduction of the 9 x 19 mm AUG to the US market with 88 of these MP 88 clones. As close as we can get to delivering the original Steyr MP 88, this limited-edition AUG features a 1.5x integral optic (Donut and Dot reticle) and a slick-sided receiver. Available exclusively through RSR Group." When they say "reintroduction" do they mean the current 9mm A3 M2 that uses MP88 mags, do they mean 9mm guns with the conversion kits they have listed on the webstore (out of stock presently), or do they mean the Glock magazine conversion they have been showing off recently? I don't know. Maybe Steyr US doesn't know. Hell, maybe Steyr Austria doesn't know. ETA: I watched the video about the 9mm kit install on Steyr's website. The guy in the video says the tooling for the adapters that use MP88 magazines is no more, he doesn't mention the future availability of magazines themselves. Hopefully that means there is hope. |
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My guess is they had just under 100 of the mpi88 mag adapters and just under 200 mpi88 mags sitting around and were able to sell them as “limited collector edition” now that they are making 9mm barrels and bolt carriers again. There is no way they geared up to make 88 of them just to not make anymore adaptters or mags. This was a way to make some cash off now obsolete product overrun. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms: My guess is they had just under 100 of the mpi88 mag adapters and just under 200 mpi88 mags sitting around and were able to sell them as “limited collector edition” now that they are making 9mm barrels and bolt carriers again. There is no way they geared up to make 88 of them just to not make anymore adaptters or mags. This was a way to make some cash off now obsolete product overrun. Sven Manticore Arms If Steyr had just done the 88 MP88s I would be inclined to agree. However, there are a ton of 9mm M3 A2 AUGs floating around the web for sale right now. They have MP88 mags and adapters. None of the ones I have seen for sale are being billed as "limited edition" like the MP88s were. They look just like regular M3 A2s with 9mm barrels, bolts, and magwells. They have green stocks without the larger 9mm ejection port the limited edition "MP88s" had. So, who knows? I'm just hoping for more of the MP88 mags. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Landric: If Steyr had just done the 88 MP88s I would be inclined to agree. However, there are a ton of 9mm M3 A2 AUGs floating around the web for sale right now. They have MP88 mags and adapters. None of the ones I have seen for sale are being billed as "limited edition" like the MP88s were. They look just like regular M3 A2s with 9mm barrels, bolts, and magwells. They have green stocks without the larger 9mm ejection port the limited edition "MP88s" had. So, who knows? I'm just hoping for more of the MP88 mags. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14564/9mm_M3A2_AUG_jpg-3485317.JPG Yeah, I guess the ones on Gunbroker are non-optic models, which technically aren't part of that "limited edition" run. A lot of those are the same gun(s) reposted from dealer's RSR feed, so it is hard to tell if there are 1, 10, or 1000 of them out there. They may have had 100 adapters available and we are just seeing the other 12 non "Special" edition ones, who knows?  Sven Manticore Arms |
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It seems like it wouldn't be too hard to 3D print a new adapter for the MP88 mags to run Colt mags, or perhaps B&T polymer stick mags, depending on which is more similar to the 88 format. There's lots of cool printed AUG stuff these days, including very functional printed 9mm mags for the new AUG mag sized 9mm kits. |
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Originally Posted By texasyid: Now the MP88 mags are not listed on their website. That is pretty rotten of Steyr. Yeah, I just noticed that. There were still there just a couple of days ago. The MP88 mags are double feed. Glock mags are single feed. I suspect that means the supposedly upcoming Glock mag adapter will require a different bolt. Are the waffle pattern 9mm mags single or double feed? At any rate, another suggestion that the MP88 mags are a thing of the past is not what I was hoping for. |
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: It seems like it wouldn't be too hard to 3D print a new adapter for the MP88 mags to run Colt mags, or perhaps B&T polymer stick mags, depending on which is more similar to the 88 format. There's lots of cool printed AUG stuff these days, including very functional printed 9mm mags for the new AUG mag sized 9mm kits. The only issue with Colt mags may be the feed angle, not sure if they would work. Beyond that, making an adapter would be some work but doable. I still think if they can get the adtic right on the new AUG mag style 9mm mags that is the way to go. Sven Manticore Arms |
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At any rate, another suggestion that the MP88 mags are a thing of the past is not what I was hoping for. I talked to them this morning. They said the supplier is not going to make any more of them. Steyr really did disappoint this time. I don't know why they did a run of the green stock 9mm. You only get one mag and no more available. |
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Originally Posted By TSH77769: Spoke to my people. Confirmed that it is as they and also as I relayed before... There will never be any more mp88 magazine adapters or mp88 magazines made again. They don't even have the ability. Hopefully they will appear from somewhere. I got 5 of the mags when they briefly showed in stock last week. I got one with the rifle. I got two older gen mags on the EE. I haven't gotten to try the ones from the EE yet, but they lock in at the same height as the "current" mags and feed dummy rounds fine. I have Tuesday of next week off, I will go to the range and give them a try. So, if they all work right, that gives me 8 mags. Not terrible, but as someone who lived through the entire AWB as an adult gun owner, I would really rather have at least twice that many. I pulled the bolt out of my 9mm gun and tested it by hand with a Glock magazine. The lug that drives the cartridges out of the mag is thin enough to slide through the feed lips of a factory Glock magazine. Whether that remains the case when the Glock mag is locked in the mag well I can't say for sure. Hopefully that means I won't need a different bolt to use with Glock mags if the adapter Steyr has been showing off actually makes it here. I also looked at pictures of the 9mm conversion kit. I appear to have the right trigger pack for use with 9mm waffle magazines. I'd much rather use Glock mags than buy the 9mm waffle mags, but if the choice is buying a different bolt (and likely that will also mean a barrel and $1000) or just buying the waffle mags, I'll buy the waffle mags. I really wish I didn't like the AUG as much as I do, it is an expensive proposition. |
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I'm really hoping they will trickle in from the used or surplus market in Europe somehow. Speaking of which you know how there are some shiny ones and then some darker ones the darker ones are military surplus from a particular production run. That's why the finish is different. |
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I like the Glock mags solution quite a lot. However there is a lot to be said for the waffle mag 9 mill mag setup. Same ergonomics same pouches the ability to use an extended mag release. By the way they market them as 28 rounds but in my experience they hold and work just fine with 30 including inserting on a closed bolt. It is possible to force a 31st round in with difficulty and if you do that then they will definitely not insert on a closed Bolt. 30 though was good to go. I like how much lighter they are. Also a Glock mag is less expensive but the clear waffle mag at $35 is pretty decent. |
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Originally Posted By TSH77769: I'm really hoping they will trickle in from the used or surplus market in Europe somehow. Speaking of which you know how there are some shiny ones and then some darker ones the darker ones are military surplus from a particular production run. That's why the finish is different. The mags I got on the EE have the darker finish, no bolt hold open, and are 30 or 32 round instead of 25. I would say they were converted MP69/81 mags, except there is no sign of conversion, the mag catch tab is the same as the 25 round mags, and they sit at the same height in the adapter when inserted. They are probably military mags. Hopefully they will work. |
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Originally Posted By TSH77769: I like the Glock mags solution quite a lot. However there is a lot to be said for the waffle mag 9 mill mag setup. Same ergonomics same pouches the ability to use an extended mag release. By the way they market them as 28 rounds but in my experience they hold and work just fine with 30 including inserting on a closed bolt. It is possible to force a 31st round in with difficulty and if you do that then they will definitely not insert on a closed Bolt. 30 though was good to go. I like how much lighter they are. Also a Glock mag is less expensive but the clear waffle mag at $35 is pretty decent. The waffle 9mm mags can also be 3D Printed: https://odysee.com/@Snazzgun:d/Snazzgun-Armory-9mm-AUG-Mags-1.0-Release:a  My buddy tried them and said they work very well. |
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Originally Posted By Landric: The mags I got on the EE have the darker finish, no bolt hold open, and are 30 or 32 round instead of 25. I would say they were converted MP69/81 mags, except there is no sign of conversion, the mag catch tab is the same as the 25 round mags, and they sit at the same height in the adapter when inserted. They are probably military mags. Hopefully they will work. Originally Posted By Landric: Originally Posted By TSH77769: I'm really hoping they will trickle in from the used or surplus market in Europe somehow. Speaking of which you know how there are some shiny ones and then some darker ones the darker ones are military surplus from a particular production run. That's why the finish is different. The mags I got on the EE have the darker finish, no bolt hold open, and are 30 or 32 round instead of 25. I would say they were converted MP69/81 mags, except there is no sign of conversion, the mag catch tab is the same as the 25 round mags, and they sit at the same height in the adapter when inserted. They are probably military mags. Hopefully they will work. So, the 32 round mags I mentioned above work fine in the MP88. They don’t hold the bolt open, but that was expected. My MP88 is one of the recent production versions with the ejector on the trigger pack. I’m happy to report that the new waffle 9mm mags work in it as well. Just remove the mag adapter, slap the mag in, and go. Since the real MP88 mags seem to be a thing of the past, that is good news. That said, the 9mm waffle mags seem a bit cheesy. I doubt they will stand up to hard use like the steel MP88 mags. I probably wouldn’t use them for defense, but for range use and competition they seem fine. The big advantages are the exact same handling as the 5.56 mags and they fit perfectly in 5.56 mag pouches. So, no reason to change gear out to switch between 9mm and 5.56 guns. I’m planning to buy more of the 9mm waffle mags and keep my mag adapter and MP88 mags in reserve. |
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