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6/18/2025 7:46:09 PM EDT
Got a lower in for Cerakote work but am a little confused by it. It has the manufacturer+city/state, SN, but that’s it. No model and no caliber/multi marking.

I’m setting up to have this thing done and gone well under 24hrs, but if I were to log this, would one just mark the model and caliber field as “none”?
6/18/2025 8:23:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Thor:
Got a lower in for Cerakote work but am a little confused by it. It has the manufacturer+city/state, SN, but that’s it. No model and no caliber/multi marking.

I’m setting up to have this thing done and gone well under 24hrs, but if I were to log this, would one just mark the model and caliber field as “none”?
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Even if has caliber markings, its still recorded as "none"....because it has no caliber without a barrel.
If you record receivers based on the caliber marked on the receiver, you'll stop once you realize there are plenty of 5.56 marked receivers that arent 5.56.
Example: receiver marked 5.56, but its a .300Blackout.

As to model, "none".
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6/19/2025 4:20:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DogtownTom:

Even if has caliber markings, its still recorded as "none"....because it has no caliber without a barrel.
If you record receivers based on the caliber marked on the receiver, you'll stop once you realize there are plenty of 5.56 marked receivers that arent 5.56.
Example: receiver marked 5.56, but its a .300Blackout.

As to model, "none".
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Originally Posted By DogtownTom:
Originally Posted By Thor:
Got a lower in for Cerakote work but am a little confused by it. It has the manufacturer+city/state, SN, but that's it. No model and no caliber/multi marking.

I'm setting up to have this thing done and gone well under 24hrs, but if I were to log this, would one just mark the model and caliber field as "none"?

Even if has caliber markings, its still recorded as "none"....because it has no caliber without a barrel.
If you record receivers based on the caliber marked on the receiver, you'll stop once you realize there are plenty of 5.56 marked receivers that arent 5.56.
Example: receiver marked 5.56, but its a .300Blackout.

As to model, "none".
That makes logical sense to me, but how about to the ATF?
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6/19/2025 5:52:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By smullen:
That makes logical sense to me, but how about to the ATF?
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ATF says to record exactly what's engraved on the firearm.
ATF says to record what the actual firearm is per the CFR.
ATF says the Form 4 I submit must match the Form 3 I received.

ATF says a lot of shit that changes with the wind.

My first two IOI's were the ones to tell me a stripped receiver has no caliber. That was fifteen years ago and four compliance inspections later they haven't questioned why I have "none" in the caliber column.
Plano, Texas...........the Gun Nut Capitol of Gun Culture, USA
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6/19/2025 10:00:09 PM EDT
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The only thing more stupid on an AR lower than marking 5.56, 300 or whatever number caliber, is marking it "Caliber: Multi".

I wish AR makers would just leave model and caliber off, but caliber most especially....
6/19/2025 10:40:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Scollins:
The only thing more stupid on an AR lower than marking 5.56, 300 or whatever number caliber, is marking it "Caliber: Multi".

I wish AR makers would just leave model and caliber off, but caliber most especially....
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ATF  § 478.92 Identification of firearms and armor piercing ammunition by licensed manufacturers and licensed importers.require certain markings on the receiver. Model and caliber can go on the barrel.

I think that assumes a complete firearm. If its only a receiver, then ATF may want all that info engraved.
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6/20/2025 3:15:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DogtownTom:

ATF  § 478.92 Identification of firearms and armor piercing ammunition by licensed manufacturers and licensed importers.require certain markings on the receiver. Model and caliber can go on the barrel.

I think that assumes a complete firearm. If its only a receiver, then ATF may want all that info engraved.
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I’ve had lowers come through with nothing but MFR, city, state and serial. No model, no caliber, etc. much like a Glock frame, it doesn’t have any of that, or a 1911 frame.
6/20/2025 1:45:58 PM EDT
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I’ve had lowers come through with nothing but MFR, city, state and serial. No model, no caliber, etc. much like a Glock frame, it doesn’t have any of that, or a 1911 frame.
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For sure. Again, ATF has its regs, but often inconsistent or has no interest in enforcing its regs.

I've yet to have an FN/Browning Hi Power come in marked as a Hi Power.

Silencer Form 3's often don't show the manufacturer as engraved on the silencer:
Gemtech's are Smith & Wesson
AAC's were Remington
Dead Air was KGMade or BP

But ATF was perfectly fine jamming up dealers for transposed digits in their records.
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