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[#1]
I don't know if the bore is any account and you don't say how it shoots but if any good, you have one heck of a compact 300 meter rifle for all occasions. Your failure to fire is doubtless due to the old and poor quality Turk Ammo unless radically out of headspace. I doubt that as the Mauser has a death grip on the case rim and a main spring that would work in a tank suspension system. Great gun.
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[#2]
Even with the tiny irons, I was ringing 12” steel at 100 yards two weeks ago standing. I need to bench it and test accuracy.
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A closed mouth gathers no foot.
Make it "Idiot Proof", along comes a better idiot. Official Site Nickname, given by NorCal - "Smack" |
[#3]
Age alone is not a factor. Marginal original quality plus decades of less than ideal storage mY equal misfires/ duds/ hangfires
I have shot lots of 100+ year old ammo that shot fine. |
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"Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result." - Winston Churchill
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[#5]
A stronger firing pin spring solved this problem on my Mauser.
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Originally Posted By ksstargazer: A stronger firing pin spring solved this problem on my Mauser. View Quote Worth consideration, although it COULD be inconsistent ignition due to poor storage or some other issue with the ammo. I'd try it in another Mauser and replace the firing pin spring with a Wolf spring in this rifle if the ammo works in other rifles. I've generally had almost perfect ignition with Turk ammo, in a verity of Mausers, even the stuff that had loose necks and shitty brass. Without some testing, though, I'm just guessing. |
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[#8]
I don't know what it is but I've had the worst luck with surplus 8mm being duds/hangfires. I've gotten to where I tear most of it down and reload the powder and bullet into a newly primed case. The only 8mm I have in my stash that is surefire is 1970's Yugo and 1970's Romanian. The 50's Yugo, Bulgarian, Czech, Ethiopian and I'm sure I'm missing a couple of others is mostly toast at this point.
I've never had issues with 54R though and I've shot stuff dating back to the 40's. |
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Slava Ukraini!
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Originally Posted By surplusnut: I don't know what it is but I've had the worst luck with surplus 8mm being duds/hangfires. I've gotten to where I tear most of it down and reload the powder and bullet into a newly primed case. The only 8mm I have in my stash that is surefire is 1970's Yugo and 1970's Romanian. The 50's Yugo, Bulgarian, Czech, Ethiopian and I'm sure I'm missing a couple of others is mostly toast at this point. I've never had issues with 54R though and I've shot stuff dating back to the 40's. View Quote Pretty much my experience as well, the Turk in green bando's being pretty good as well. |
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Preferred Pronoun: Space Lord Mutherfucker
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[#11]
only 8mm I have had problems with is the Romanian steel cases. They don't seal in the chamber and blow gas back in your face. Even the bad 50's Yugo was fine. I have been collecting and shooting 8mm since about 1990. I have had just about every type of surplus out there. My favorite was Greek 1938-9 made by the Nazi's.
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[#12]
What year of Turkish ammo? I've shot a lot of different years and have never had a single failure to fire.
Did you remove the striker and inspect for debris? |
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[#13]
I have about 600 rounds of Turk 8mm, and no 8mm rifle. I am looking for a cheap 8mm rifle to burn up the ammo, then sell of the rifle.
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[#14]
Yeah, I’ve had the bolt apart and everything seems to be good. New manufacture S&B is 100%, the spam can green lacquer casings are 90 to 100% and the 1 out of 10 always goes on a 2nd strike. The 1947(?) Turkish goes anywhere from 6-9 of 10 okay, and then it’s 50-50 for a 2nd or 3rd strike, about 1 in 20 seems to be a total dud, but in another M48 the failure rate was less with the Turkish, but I sold that rifle, so I have no way of comparing anymore.
I just put a stronger firing pin spring in it, so I will report back when I get it to the range. |
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A closed mouth gathers no foot.
Make it "Idiot Proof", along comes a better idiot. Official Site Nickname, given by NorCal - "Smack" |
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Originally Posted By Tim_the_enchanter: I have about 600 rounds of Turk 8mm, and no 8mm rifle. I am looking for a cheap 8mm rifle to burn up the ammo, then sell of the rifle. View Quote Can’t get much cheaper than this one, bought it back 20+ years ago when Big 5 was blowing them out for $60, then it cost me $60 (IIRC) to have the barrel cut and crowned and the sight put back on. |
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A closed mouth gathers no foot.
Make it "Idiot Proof", along comes a better idiot. Official Site Nickname, given by NorCal - "Smack" |
[#16]
I'm sure the rifle is fine. There was a time when I was reading some forum,
I don't remember which forum, where people were refinishing the stocks and they were gorgeous. Absolutely beautiful grain. That ammo on the other hand is terrible. I bought a few bandoleers of it at a gun show, just as you described with the silver bullet. After firing a few I had to use a mallet to open the bolt on my K98 and the recoil was very heavy. I pulled all the bullets and found them to be crimped so hard that the bullet looked like it was wearing a skirt but that didn't help it from moving around in the case mouth and I was able to twist them and even pull some out just with my fingers. I weighed the powder charge and if I remember correctly it was 54 to 58 grains of whatever powder was in the case. That powder was dumped on my lawn but I saved the bullets (Cupro-Nickel I think they are) and I still have them. Maybe I'll try to resize them into a useable shape or just use them for my slingshot. |
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Originally Posted By CRNUMBER: I'm sure the rifle is fine. There was a time when I was reading some forum, I don't remember which forum, where people were refinishing the stocks and they were gorgeous. Absolutely beautiful grain. That ammo on the other hand is terrible. I bought a few bandoleers of it at a gun show, just as you described with the silver bullet. After firing a few I had to use a mallet to open the bolt on my K98 and the recoil was very heavy. I pulled all the bullets and found them to be crimped so hard that the bullet looked like it was wearing a skirt but that didn't help it from moving around in the case mouth and I was able to twist them and even pull some out just with my fingers. I weighed the powder charge and if I remember correctly it was 54 to 58 grains of whatever powder was in the case. That powder was dumped on my lawn but I saved the bullets (Cupro-Nickel I think they are) and I still have them. Maybe I'll try to resize them into a useable shape or just use them for my slingshot. View Quote |
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[#18]
There's a reason they were blowing out turk 8mm for $40 a case back in the day.
That said, if you want a life of excitement, try some indian 303 which is filled with cordite. |
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Seriously, a tractor dealer from Possum Trot, KY has to explain this to you, a lawyer? - JPL
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Your rifle your choice but myself I would just do the Boiled linseed oil deal and call it good. More layers and more rubbing and to a point you get more shine .
To me a super high shine poly type finish on a mil-surp looks odd. |
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