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today's range results:
300 rounds (non HP) without a single issue smooth recoil, very controllable trigger is consistent, but heavy safety selector didn't even notice the "heavier" springs, seems to be more noticeable when just handling vs actually using thread protector needed tightening almost every mag overall, this is clearly my new favorite gun for shooting actions to be done: 1) thread lock the thread protector 2) trigger work - definitely needs lightened, but I like the feel of the trigger. likely will drop in the Super APC to compare the feel, but may end up just swapping the springs of the B&T trigger and the Geissele trigger to maintain the stock feel and look 3) re-zero to 15-20 yards, today zero'd at 10 4) shoot Hornady CD +P HP |
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Does anyone know if any of the Magluna magazine loaders works on the magazines for the GhM9 ? I know there is not one made yet.
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Originally Posted By AR15JoeL:
Does anyone know if any of the Magluna magazine loaders works on the magazines for the GhM9 ? I know there is not one made yet. View Quote I did find a way that made the included B&T speed loader work much easier. Instead of pushing against the table edge with the bullets facing the floor (which tended to cause a jamming issue in the mag), flip it so the bullets face the ceiling. This eliminated the feeding/jamming mag issue for me and the last 10 mags loaded easy and without issue. Also, I typically run 5 at a time until i hit 20, then i run them in 3's and 2's for the last 10 count. Hope this helps! |
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Originally Posted By americaninfidel007:
today's range results: 300 rounds (non HP) without a single issue smooth recoil, very controllable trigger is consistent, but heavy safety selector didn't even notice the "heavier" springs, seems to be more noticeable when just handling vs actually using thread protector needed tightening almost every mag overall, this is clearly my new favorite gun for shooting actions to be done: 1) thread lock the thread protector 2) trigger work - definitely needs lightened, but I like the feel of the trigger. likely will drop in the Super APC to compare the feel, but may end up just swapping the springs of the B&T trigger and the Geissele trigger to maintain the stock feel and look 3) re-zero to 15-20 yards, today zero'd at 10 4) shoot Hornady CD +P HP View Quote https://www.blacklistind.com/products/ultra-match-o-ring-pack |
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Originally Posted By AR15JoeL:
Does anyone know if any of the Magluna magazine loaders works on the magazines for the GhM9 ? I know there is not one made yet. View Quote |
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pictures, trying to embed
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... trying to figure out pictures
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Originally Posted By smiller4169:
Super APC arrived today. I’ll post up the findings as soon as I get to the range. I may do 2 separate posts, one for the dimensions and weight, and then one for ammo testing. I’m going to be measuring and testing in a GHM9 Gen 2 OEM vs: Geissele Super APC Geissele SD3G Geissele SSA Geissele SSA-E BCM PNT And just for the sake of testing I might put the Super APC in an AR and shoot it too View Quote |
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I put a jet funnel on mine. Will the duel mag holder still work? Thanks
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Originally Posted By OAK667:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/483906/43D3A7C0-EF77-41DF-AF6D-8D97CFB9403A-781586.jpg Came in 10 minutes ago! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/483906/CBB4979F-C28B-4413-A4DD-03C0AAF2DB6C-781591.jpg Finally latches!!! View Quote |
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I think I'm to get a GHM9 and need help deciding on whether to get the regular or compact version, I do plan on SBR'ing if that makes a difference.
Any particular reason to get one over the other? Is it correct that I could switch from standard to compact with just switching out a couple of parts? Any one do this yet? So far I'm diggin the vids and reviews on this gun, the funny thing is I had a SBR'd Scorpion and just didn't like it, so maybe the Grass Hopper Mouse will live up to it's name! :) |
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Originally Posted By Hulley:
I think I'm to get a GHM9 and need help deciding on whether to get the regular or compact version, I do plan on SBR'ing if that makes a difference. Any particular reason to get one over the other? Is it correct that I could switch from standard to compact with just switching out a couple of parts? Any one do this yet? So far I'm diggin the vids and reviews on this gun, the funny thing is I had a SBR'd Scorpion and just didn't like it, so maybe the Grass Hopper Mouse will live up to it's name! :) View Quote the GHM9 is a night and day difference compared to the scorpion. to me, the scorpion just felt too clunky and cheap. besides the couple inch length difference between the GHM9 and GHM9compact, the main difference is the barrel mount. depending which gen2 full size you get it will have either tri-lug or tri-lug+threaded. the GHM9compact is threaded only, but B&T does offer a threaded tri-lug if you need the tri-lug mount. so really it comes down to if you plan on running a suppressor on it or not; and if so, whether its a tri-lug or a threaded suppressor. |
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one other thing to consider - is use of vert grip. the compact version doesn't really have room for your thumb if you use a TOB grip, i found my thumb would pretty much be at the very end of the rail with a vert grip...if you have larger hands your thumb would likely be sitting partly off the rail - too close to the barrel for my taste.
the full size gives plenty of room. but I've found no need for the vert grip on the compact as the mag well works great. of course, if you plan on a vert grip and simply grip it without a TOB approach, that works A-ok with the compact size my 1/2 cent |
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I went with the full size mainly for three lug but also for me my finger tips were a little too close for comfort with the muzzle on the compact. YMMV.
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Originally Posted By americaninfidel007: I definitely love the size of my GHM9compact, my preference for a 9mm gun like this is for the smallest package. As long as you go gen2, there will be a rail/barrel kit available at some point in 2019 to allow swapping between "full size" and compact version but it's not yet available. If you're planning to do this, just make sure you get the gen2 - gen1s can't be swapped out. the compact is only available in gen2. the GHM9 is a night and day difference compared to the scorpion. to me, the scorpion just felt too clunky and cheap. besides the couple inch length difference between the GHM9 and GHM9compact, the main difference is the barrel mount. depending which gen2 full size you get it will have either tri-lug or tri-lug+threaded. the GHM9compact is threaded only, but B&T does offer a threaded tri-lug if you need the tri-lug mount. so really it comes down to if you plan on running a suppressor on it or not; and if so, whether its a tri-lug or a threaded suppressor. View Quote I thought the scorpion felt rather cheap too and bulky. I guess I'll go for the compact to insure I get a gen 2, SBR it at that length and get the longer version later if I decide I need it. |
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Picture Request...
I quickly went back through the thread and didn't see a picture of the Compact with a folding brace. I have the folding brace (Tailhook) sitting at home and in the process of ordering the Compact model for when I get home in May. Just curious if anyone with the Compact has the folding brace and could post a picture...TIA! I have a Gen 1 GHM9 with collapsible brace and love it...just want something more compact (compete with my MPX K). ROCK6 |
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Originally Posted By ROCK6:
Picture Request... I quickly went back through the thread and didn't see a picture of the Compact with a folding brace. I have the folding brace (Tailhook) sitting at home and in the process of ordering the Compact model for when I get home in May. Just curious if anyone with the Compact has the folding brace and could post a picture...TIA! I have a Gen 1 GHM9 with collapsible brace and love it...just want something more compact (compete with my MPX K). ROCK6 View Quote has pictures of the compact with folding brace...should give you a good idea on the size |
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Originally Posted By ROCK6:
Picture Request... I quickly went back through the thread and didn't see a picture of the Compact with a folding brace. I have the folding brace (Tailhook) sitting at home and in the process of ordering the Compact model for when I get home in May. Just curious if anyone with the Compact has the folding brace and could post a picture...TIA! I have a Gen 1 GHM9 with collapsible brace and love it...just want something more compact (compete with my MPX K). ROCK6 View Quote |
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I measured the rectangular slots on both sides of my ghm9c gen 2’s handguard with calipers and it’s exactly to mlok spec. Funny b&t doesn’t advertise this but my guess is it has something to do with magpul requiring their mlok logo on mlok handguards, maybe b&t didn’t want another company’s logo so they put a slot in there that “happened” to be mlok size. I was able to attach a 3 slot magpul brand picattiny rail section to this slot (polymer to save the finish). Locked up good and tight and I put an inforce apl on there. Another cool thing I found are the 9mm magpuls fit b&t mags with a little elbow grease. These are way cheaper, functional, and better looking (imo) than the b&t base pads.
Anyway, I hate the inforce light and am looking into other light options that ideally do not extend past the barrel. I was looking at mlok scout light mounts but I think all of them would put a light past the barrel. Are there any super short scout lights out there or mlok scout light mounts that would push the light back? I think I want it on the right side with a tape switch on the top (I’m a right handed shooter). What are your guys light setups for the ghm9c? |
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test trip #2 with hollow points (GHM9compact):
would not feed Federal Hryda-Shok 147g JHP...would feed the first, but after that shot consistently jammed/wouldn't feed on 2 separate mags. Hornady CD +P and non +P...fed without an issue, which is fortunate since this is my go to. thread lock worked, thread protector didn't move through 300 rds. final takeaway - trigger needs lightened. i love the stock trigger for general shooting, but its a detriment for rapid fire...not nearly as fast as an AR. next step, wait for geissele sale and pick up the super apc. first approach is going to be to keep the stock trigger and just swap to the light trigger spring and see how that feels. |
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Where is everyone getting mags? $45 shipped is the best I’m seeing
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Shit. Lucky they are that low. You need to post we’re YOUR buying from.
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so it looks as though B&T is releasing a APC9-K Pro version...dang and I just picked up my ghm9C. i knew about the Pro APC9 coming out, but didn't know they had a K version, otherwise i probably would have held off. just a heads up for anyone on the fence.
http://www.gandrtactical.com/BampT-APC9K-PRO-Pistol_p_1238.html also, THSF has mags $45 shipped ($40 for 15 rounders) https://tarheelstatefirearms.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=57_123&product_id=381 |
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Originally Posted By americaninfidel007:
so it looks as though B&T is releasing a APC9-K Pro version...dang and I just picked up my ghm9C. i knew about the Pro APC9 coming out, but didn't know they had a K version, otherwise i probably would have held off. just a heads up for anyone on the fence. http://www.gandrtactical.com/BampT-APC9K-PRO-Pistol_p_1238.html also, THSF has mags $45 shipped ($40 for 15 rounders) https://tarheelstatefirearms.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=57_123&product_id=381 View Quote |
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bmo419 - my guess is soon..
B&T will only say early 2019 - they won’t give a definite date. But more and more dealers/sites are slowly updating in preparation for the release. Since they are saying early 2019, hopefully June at the very latest and since it’s february now..I’d say March-April time frame is realistic. They’ll have the Pro (B&T mag) and the Pro-G (glock mag) lowers as well as the standard. My guess is the lowers will drop around the same time as the new APC versions do. I might be on the hook for the Pro-G lower just to have as a backup and for compatibility. But it’s hard to beat the B&T mags for ease of speed loading, granted they aren’t the most durable mags. Just wish I knew about the APC-K version beforehand. But oh well, still can’t complain about the ghm9C, it’s a awesome gun |
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I have one SBR'ed and really like it. I really think it shines the most when used with the B&T custom holster system that is made specifically for it. There is really nothing else quite like it in the market place at this time. I personally think the juice is worth the squeeze but that is just my opinion and YMMV.
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B&T is giving away their Welrod pistol to the person who comes up with the best name for the US version.
SILENCER SATURDAY #58: Win The New B&T Modern Welrod Pistol |
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Originally Posted By americaninfidel007:
bmo419 - my guess is soon.. B&T will only say early 2019 - they won’t give a definite date. But more and more dealers/sites are slowly updating in preparation for the release. Since they are saying early 2019, hopefully June at the very latest and since it’s february now..I’d say March-April time frame is realistic. They’ll have the Pro (B&T mag) and the Pro-G (glock mag) lowers as well as the standard. My guess is the lowers will drop around the same time as the new APC versions do. I might be on the hook for the Pro-G lower just to have as a backup and for compatibility. But it’s hard to beat the B&T mags for ease of speed loading, granted they aren’t the most durable mags. Just wish I knew about the APC-K version beforehand. But oh well, still can’t complain about the ghm9C, it’s a awesome gun View Quote |
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Originally Posted By goloud:
B&T is giving away their Welrod pistol to the person who comes up with the best name for the US version. SILENCER SATURDAY #58: Win The New B&T Modern Welrod Pistol https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/83570/374605FD-AE62-4C9B-AA0B-8A0DFDF118A8-832974.jpg View Quote I REALLY hope they sell it sans suppressor as a non NFA item for those in non friendly states. For GHM9 owners, what are you running for optic risers? The Spuhr 22mm looks nice. |
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Originally Posted By grn_zx6r: @Alexbrooks I can confirm 2 mag clamp and jet funnel work together. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/176560/20190202_131835-830408.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/176560/20190202_131907-830409.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/176560/20190202_131924-830410.jpg View Quote |
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DO NOT USE JP 3.5T TRIGGER SPRINGS. They make the trigger 11lbs and fail to reset. I installed them today. What a pain in the butt taking the safety out and putting it back in. You have to remove the safety to take the trigger out. I recommend stock or a whole after market change. Stock trigger is 6 7/8lbs. Bummed about the springs not working out. Just wanted to warn people.
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Form 1 approved for my GHM9! Submitted on 12/23/18 and approved on 2/4/19, even with the shutdown. Obviously, I used eForms. 43 days - 35 for the shutdown means 8 days for approval!
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TL:DR, just looked at pics
Is the PRO series coming out for the GHM9 and compact as well? |
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Originally Posted By N_Parker: Model BT450002 is the gen 1 with the JHP mod that was referred to as Gen 2. View Quote Hopelessly saving my pennies for one of the Gen 2s. Be nice to swap between compact and full size. |
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I have a GHM9 gen 1 with the B&T telescopic tailhook brace. I will be submitting a Form 1 and would like to know the OAL with the B&T telescopic conversion stock kit. Thank you in advance.
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Anyone on the forum who has a Form 1 on a GHM9 with telescopic stock? I would like to submit a Form 1 on mine and would like to know OAL. Thank you.
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Originally Posted By bogartino:
Anyone on the forum who has a Form 1 on a GHM9 with telescopic stock? I would like to submit a Form 1 on mine and would like to know OAL. Thank you. View Quote |
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I have the same issue with my aac evo9, it indexes on the muzzle with the same gap.
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Originally Posted By Army85: Wasn't sure if it was a True Gen 2 since the image didn't show the break between the handguard and the upper receiver. Hopelessly saving my pennies for one of the Gen 2s. Be nice to swap between compact and full size. View Quote |
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This is not the hammermill you're looking for.
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Was there a price increase for the Gen 2? I was seeing $1350 and now $1500.
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