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Link Posted: 1/28/2019 9:26:43 AM EST
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Link Posted: 1/28/2019 2:57:57 PM EST
[#2]
today's range results:
300 rounds (non HP) without a single issue
smooth recoil, very controllable
trigger is consistent, but heavy
safety selector didn't even notice the "heavier" springs, seems to be more noticeable when just handling vs actually using
thread protector needed tightening almost every mag
overall, this is clearly my new favorite gun for shooting

actions to be done:
1) thread lock the thread protector
2) trigger work - definitely needs lightened, but I like the feel of the trigger. likely will drop in the Super APC to compare the feel, but may end up just swapping the springs of the B&T trigger and the Geissele trigger to maintain the stock feel and look
3) re-zero to 15-20 yards, today zero'd at 10
4) shoot Hornady CD +P HP
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 4:28:17 PM EST
[#3]
Does anyone know if any of the Magluna magazine loaders works on the magazines for the GhM9 ?  I know there is not one made yet.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 4:42:03 PM EST
[#4]
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Originally Posted By AR15JoeL:
Does anyone know if any of the Magluna magazine loaders works on the magazines for the GhM9 ?  I know there is not one made yet.
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I was wondering the same thing - I imagine one of the 9mm SMG versions would work, but haven't bought one since I don't know which is compatible. Also interested in this.

I did find a way that made the included B&T speed loader work much easier. Instead of pushing against the table edge with the bullets facing the floor (which tended to cause a jamming issue in the mag), flip it so the bullets face the ceiling. This eliminated the feeding/jamming mag issue for me and the last 10 mags loaded easy and without issue. Also, I typically run 5 at a time until i hit 20, then i run them in 3's and 2's for the last 10 count. Hope this helps!
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 4:54:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: smiller4169] [#5]
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Originally Posted By americaninfidel007:
today's range results:
300 rounds (non HP) without a single issue
smooth recoil, very controllable
trigger is consistent, but heavy
safety selector didn't even notice the "heavier" springs, seems to be more noticeable when just handling vs actually using
thread protector needed tightening almost every mag
overall, this is clearly my new favorite gun for shooting

actions to be done:
1) thread lock the thread protector
2) trigger work - definitely needs lightened, but I like the feel of the trigger. likely will drop in the Super APC to compare the feel, but may end up just swapping the springs of the B&T trigger and the Geissele trigger to maintain the stock feel and look
3) re-zero to 15-20 yards, today zero'd at 10
4) shoot Hornady CD +P HP
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Instead of threadlock use an O-ring, mine hasn’t loosened at all. I bought a pack from Blacklist Industries and use them on all my thread protectors.
https://www.blacklistind.com/products/ultra-match-o-ring-pack
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 5:16:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AR15JoeL:
Does anyone know if any of the Magluna magazine loaders works on the magazines for the GhM9 ?  I know there is not one made yet.
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The ETS CAM Rifle loader works with the B&T mags (as well as scorpion and mp5 mags fwiw). Only thing i don't really like about it is the plunger is a separate piece so you have to drop and pick it back up again all the time. If they can integrate it the way the Striplula for AR mags does, it would be a lot quicker.
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 6:40:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: americaninfidel007] [#7]
pictures, trying to embed
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 6:40:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: americaninfidel007] [#8]
... trying to figure out pictures
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 6:41:35 PM EST
[#9]
Link Posted: 1/28/2019 11:37:29 PM EST
[#10]
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Originally Posted By smiller4169:
Super APC arrived today.

I’ll post up the findings as soon as I get to the range.
I may do 2 separate posts, one for the dimensions and weight, and then one for ammo testing.

I’m going to be measuring and testing in a GHM9 Gen 2

OEM vs:
Geissele Super APC
Geissele SD3G
Geissele SSA
Geissele SSA-E
BCM PNT

And just for the sake of testing I might put the Super APC in an AR and shoot it too
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Any update on trying out the Geissele Super APC on your GHM9?
Link Posted: 1/29/2019 12:23:00 AM EST
[#11]
I put a jet funnel on mine. Will the duel mag holder still work?  Thanks
Link Posted: 1/29/2019 12:26:38 AM EST
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Does the 2 mag clamp still work with jet funnel?
Link Posted: 1/29/2019 2:09:11 PM EST
[#13]
I think I'm to get a GHM9 and need help deciding on whether to get the regular or compact version, I do plan on SBR'ing if that makes a difference.

Any particular reason to get one over the other?

Is it correct that I could switch from standard to compact with just switching out a couple of parts? Any one do this yet?

So far I'm diggin the vids and reviews on this gun, the funny thing is I had a SBR'd Scorpion and just didn't like it, so maybe the Grass Hopper Mouse will live up to it's name! :)
Link Posted: 1/29/2019 3:14:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Hulley:
I think I'm to get a GHM9 and need help deciding on whether to get the regular or compact version, I do plan on SBR'ing if that makes a difference.

Any particular reason to get one over the other?

Is it correct that I could switch from standard to compact with just switching out a couple of parts? Any one do this yet?

So far I'm diggin the vids and reviews on this gun, the funny thing is I had a SBR'd Scorpion and just didn't like it, so maybe the Grass Hopper Mouse will live up to it's name! :)
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I definitely love the size of my GHM9compact, my preference for a 9mm gun like this is for the smallest package. As long as you go gen2, there will be a rail/barrel kit available at some point in 2019 to allow swapping between "full size" and compact version but it's not yet available. If you're planning to do this, just make sure you get the gen2 - gen1s can't be swapped out. the compact is only available in gen2.

the GHM9 is a night and day difference compared to the scorpion. to me, the scorpion just felt too clunky and cheap.

besides the couple inch length difference between the GHM9 and GHM9compact, the main difference is the barrel mount. depending which gen2 full size you get it will have either tri-lug or tri-lug+threaded. the GHM9compact is threaded only, but B&T does offer a threaded tri-lug if you need the tri-lug mount. so really it comes down to if you plan on running a suppressor on it or not; and if so, whether its a tri-lug or a threaded suppressor.
Link Posted: 1/29/2019 3:20:18 PM EST
[#15]
one other thing to consider - is use of vert grip. the compact version doesn't really have room for your thumb if you use a TOB grip, i found my thumb would pretty much be at the very end of the rail with a vert grip...if you have larger hands your thumb would likely be sitting partly off the rail - too close to the barrel for my taste.

the full size gives plenty of room. but I've found no need for the vert grip on the compact as the mag well works great.

of course, if you plan on a vert grip and simply grip it without a TOB approach, that works A-ok with the compact size

my 1/2 cent
Link Posted: 1/29/2019 3:23:55 PM EST
[#16]
I went with the full size mainly for three lug but also for me my finger tips were a little too close for comfort with the muzzle on the compact. YMMV.
Link Posted: 1/29/2019 4:44:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By americaninfidel007:

I definitely love the size of my GHM9compact, my preference for a 9mm gun like this is for the smallest package. As long as you go gen2, there will be a rail/barrel kit available at some point in 2019 to allow swapping between "full size" and compact version but it's not yet available. If you're planning to do this, just make sure you get the gen2 - gen1s can't be swapped out. the compact is only available in gen2.

the GHM9 is a night and day difference compared to the scorpion. to me, the scorpion just felt too clunky and cheap.

besides the couple inch length difference between the GHM9 and GHM9compact, the main difference is the barrel mount. depending which gen2 full size you get it will have either tri-lug or tri-lug+threaded. the GHM9compact is threaded only, but B&T does offer a threaded tri-lug if you need the tri-lug mount. so really it comes down to if you plan on running a suppressor on it or not; and if so, whether its a tri-lug or a threaded suppressor.
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Thanks and yes, I do have a 9mm suppressor with is threaded but I can get a 3 lug adapter for it as well.

I thought the scorpion felt rather cheap too and bulky.

I guess I'll go for the compact to insure I get a gen 2, SBR it at that length and get the longer version later if I decide I need it.
Link Posted: 1/29/2019 9:10:40 PM EST
[#18]
Picture Request...

I quickly went back through the thread and didn't see a picture of the Compact with a folding brace.

I have the folding brace (Tailhook) sitting at home and in the process of ordering the Compact model for when I get home in May.  Just curious if anyone with the Compact has the folding brace and could post a picture...TIA!

I have a Gen 1 GHM9 with collapsible brace and love it...just want something more compact (compete with my MPX K).

ROCK6
Link Posted: 1/29/2019 9:36:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ROCK6:
Picture Request...

I quickly went back through the thread and didn't see a picture of the Compact with a folding brace.

I have the folding brace (Tailhook) sitting at home and in the process of ordering the Compact model for when I get home in May.  Just curious if anyone with the Compact has the folding brace and could post a picture...TIA!

I have a Gen 1 GHM9 with collapsible brace and love it...just want something more compact (compete with my MPX K).

ROCK6
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https://shootingsurplus.com/b-t-ghm9-compact-gen2-w-folding-brace-9mm-4-30rd/

has pictures of the compact with folding brace...should give you a good idea on the size
Link Posted: 1/30/2019 5:34:43 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ROCK6:
Picture Request...

I quickly went back through the thread and didn't see a picture of the Compact with a folding brace.

I have the folding brace (Tailhook) sitting at home and in the process of ordering the Compact model for when I get home in May.  Just curious if anyone with the Compact has the folding brace and could post a picture...TIA!

I have a Gen 1 GHM9 with collapsible brace and love it...just want something more compact (compete with my MPX K).

ROCK6
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There's a couple on page 12 of this thread, I'm wanting the same thing, a compact with the newer folding brace.
Link Posted: 1/30/2019 11:29:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: Foofighter3] [#21]
I measured the rectangular slots on both sides of my ghm9c gen 2’s handguard with calipers and it’s exactly to mlok spec. Funny b&t doesn’t advertise this but my guess is it has something to do with magpul requiring their mlok logo on mlok handguards, maybe b&t didn’t want another company’s logo so they put a slot in there that “happened” to be mlok size.  I was able to attach a 3 slot magpul brand picattiny rail section to this slot (polymer to save the finish). Locked up good and tight and I put an inforce apl on there. Another cool thing I found are the 9mm magpuls fit b&t mags with a little elbow grease. These are way cheaper, functional, and better looking (imo) than the b&t base pads.

Anyway, I hate the inforce light and am looking into other light options that ideally do not extend past the barrel. I was looking at mlok scout light mounts but I think all of them would put a light past the barrel. Are there any super short scout lights out there or mlok scout light mounts that would push the light back? I think I want it on the right side with a tape switch on the top (I’m a right handed shooter).

What are your guys light setups for the ghm9c?
Link Posted: 1/30/2019 2:56:53 PM EST
[#22]
test trip #2 with hollow points (GHM9compact):
would not feed Federal Hryda-Shok 147g JHP...would feed the first, but after that shot consistently jammed/wouldn't feed on 2 separate mags.
Hornady CD +P and non +P...fed without an issue, which is fortunate since this is my go to.

thread lock worked, thread protector didn't move through 300 rds.

final takeaway - trigger needs lightened. i love the stock trigger for general shooting, but its a detriment for rapid fire...not nearly as fast as an AR.

next step, wait for geissele sale and pick up the super apc. first approach is going to be to keep the stock trigger and just swap to the light trigger spring and see how that feels.
Link Posted: 2/1/2019 11:22:13 PM EST
[#23]
Where is everyone getting mags? $45 shipped is the best I’m seeing
Link Posted: 2/1/2019 11:57:14 PM EST
[#24]
Shit. Lucky they are that low. You need to post we’re YOUR buying from.
Link Posted: 2/2/2019 12:05:22 AM EST
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Originally Posted By FADALdude:
Where is everyone getting mags? $45 shipped is the best I’m seeing
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Manventure Outpost has them at $36.47, I picked up a few more, unfortunately I stocked up on the B&T mags when they were still outrageously priced
Link Posted: 2/2/2019 8:41:45 AM EST
[#26]
so it looks as though B&T is releasing a APC9-K Pro version...dang and I just picked up my ghm9C. i knew about the Pro APC9 coming out, but didn't know they had a K version, otherwise i probably would have held off. just a heads up for anyone on the fence.

http://www.gandrtactical.com/BampT-APC9K-PRO-Pistol_p_1238.html

also, THSF has mags $45 shipped ($40 for 15 rounders)

https://tarheelstatefirearms.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=57_123&product_id=381
Link Posted: 2/2/2019 9:05:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By americaninfidel007:
so it looks as though B&T is releasing a APC9-K Pro version...dang and I just picked up my ghm9C. i knew about the Pro APC9 coming out, but didn't know they had a K version, otherwise i probably would have held off. just a heads up for anyone on the fence.

http://www.gandrtactical.com/BampT-APC9K-PRO-Pistol_p_1238.html

also, THSF has mags $45 shipped ($40 for 15 rounders)

https://tarheelstatefirearms.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=57_123&product_id=381
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Any word on when the pro lower itself will be available?
Link Posted: 2/2/2019 1:24:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Alexbrooks:

Does the 2 mag clamp still work with jet funnel?
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@Alexbrooks I can confirm 2 mag clamp and jet funnel work together.



Link Posted: 2/3/2019 2:14:48 PM EST
[#29]
bmo419 - my guess is soon..

B&T will only say early 2019 - they won’t give a definite date. But more and more dealers/sites are slowly updating in preparation for the release. Since they are saying early 2019, hopefully June at the very latest and since it’s february now..I’d say March-April time frame is realistic.

They’ll have the Pro (B&T mag) and the Pro-G (glock mag) lowers as well as the standard. My guess is the lowers will drop around the same time as the new APC versions do.

I might be on the hook for the Pro-G lower just to have as a backup and for compatibility. But it’s hard to beat the B&T mags for ease of speed loading, granted they aren’t the most durable mags.

Just wish I knew about the APC-K version beforehand. But oh well, still can’t complain about the ghm9C, it’s a awesome gun
Link Posted: 2/3/2019 5:11:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: Foofighter3] [#30]
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Link Posted: 2/3/2019 8:51:14 PM EST
[#31]
I know its not the GHM9 but its B&T related,

Does anyone have any hands on experience with the  B&T USW-A1?

I am thinking about picking one up and submitting a form 1 on it.

Link Posted: 2/3/2019 10:23:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: dirtyharriett] [#32]
I have one SBR'ed and really like it. I really think it shines the most when used with the B&T custom holster system that is made specifically for it. There is really nothing else quite like it in the market place at this time. I personally think the juice is worth the squeeze but that is just my opinion and YMMV.
Link Posted: 2/4/2019 6:34:58 AM EST
[#33]
B&T is giving away their Welrod pistol to the person who comes up with the best name for the US version.

SILENCER SATURDAY #58: Win The New B&T Modern Welrod Pistol

Link Posted: 2/4/2019 1:07:35 PM EST
[#34]
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Originally Posted By americaninfidel007:
bmo419 - my guess is soon..

B&T will only say early 2019 - they won’t give a definite date. But more and more dealers/sites are slowly updating in preparation for the release. Since they are saying early 2019, hopefully June at the very latest and since it’s february now..I’d say March-April time frame is realistic.

They’ll have the Pro (B&T mag) and the Pro-G (glock mag) lowers as well as the standard. My guess is the lowers will drop around the same time as the new APC versions do.

I might be on the hook for the Pro-G lower just to have as a backup and for compatibility. But it’s hard to beat the B&T mags for ease of speed loading, granted they aren’t the most durable mags.

Just wish I knew about the APC-K version beforehand. But oh well, still can’t complain about the ghm9C, it’s a awesome gun
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Thanks. I watched TFB TV's B&T coverage from shot show and the rep said around summer FWIW for the Glock lower. I'm waiting on that myself. Rather go around dropping Glock mags than the B&T mags , but also equally important is I'd love to throw on a Magpul K2 grip. The angled grips just don't make sense for such a short gun imo (unless you want carpal tunnel).
Link Posted: 2/4/2019 6:31:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By goloud:

B&T is giving away their Welrod pistol to the person who comes up with the best name for the US version.

SILENCER SATURDAY #58: Win The New B&T Modern Welrod Pistol

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/83570/374605FD-AE62-4C9B-AA0B-8A0DFDF118A8-832974.jpg
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I haven’t been so truly excited about a new firearm since I was 21 and bought my TP9.

I REALLY hope they sell it sans suppressor as a non NFA item for those in non friendly states.

For GHM9 owners, what are you running for optic risers? The Spuhr 22mm looks nice.
Link Posted: 2/4/2019 10:13:20 PM EST
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Thank you.  I just got mine and found at today. Thanks though
Link Posted: 2/4/2019 10:31:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: Alexbrooks] [#37]
DO NOT USE JP 3.5T TRIGGER SPRINGS.  They make the trigger 11lbs and fail to reset. I installed them today. What a pain in the butt taking the safety out and putting it back in. You have to remove the safety to take the trigger out. I recommend stock or a whole after market change.  Stock trigger is 6 7/8lbs.  Bummed about the springs not working out. Just wanted to warn people.
Link Posted: 2/5/2019 6:46:23 AM EST
[#38]
Form 1 approved for my GHM9!  Submitted on 12/23/18 and approved on 2/4/19, even with the shutdown.  Obviously, I used eForms. 43 days - 35 for the shutdown means 8 days for approval!

GHEN
Link Posted: 2/5/2019 2:28:38 PM EST
[#39]
TL:DR, just looked at pics

Is the PRO series coming out for the GHM9 and compact as well?
Link Posted: 2/5/2019 5:38:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: Army85] [#40]
GHM9 in stock at Brownells today.  Description says Gen2.

Brownells Link
Link Posted: 2/5/2019 7:06:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Army85:
GHM9 in stock at Brownells today.  Description says Gen2.

Brownells Link
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Model BT450002 is the gen 1 with the JHP mod that was referred to as Gen 2.
Link Posted: 2/5/2019 8:57:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By N_Parker:

Model BT450002 is the gen 1 with the JHP mod that was referred to as Gen 2.
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Wasn't sure if it was a True Gen 2 since the image didn't show the break between the handguard and the upper receiver.

Hopelessly saving my pennies for one of the Gen 2s.  Be nice to swap between compact and full size.
Link Posted: 2/5/2019 9:05:58 PM EST
[#43]
I have a GHM9 gen 1 with the B&T telescopic tailhook brace. I will be submitting a Form 1 and would like to know the OAL with the B&T telescopic conversion stock kit. Thank you in advance.
Link Posted: 2/7/2019 11:55:23 AM EST
[#44]
Anyone on the forum who has a Form 1 on a GHM9 with telescopic stock? I would like to submit a Form 1 on mine and would like to know OAL. Thank you.
Link Posted: 2/7/2019 12:19:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By bogartino:
Anyone on the forum who has a Form 1 on a GHM9 with telescopic stock? I would like to submit a Form 1 on mine and would like to know OAL. Thank you.
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You are better off calling B&T they are great to deal with. There’s also smaller stoppers that go on it when it’s an SBR
Link Posted: 2/7/2019 6:21:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: smiller4169] [#46]
Happy and sad news today!

Happy news:
My Surefire Ryder 9-Ti can came back from Surefire today.

Sad news:
The threads on the GHM9 Gen 2 are too long to let the can seat on the shoulder.

Link Posted: 2/7/2019 10:11:32 PM EST
[#47]
I have the same issue with my aac evo9, it indexes on the muzzle with the same gap.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 12:24:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Army85:

Wasn't sure if it was a True Gen 2 since the image didn't show the break between the handguard and the upper receiver.

Hopelessly saving my pennies for one of the Gen 2s.  Be nice to swap between compact and full size.
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They call it out as "gen 2" on the product page, and I ordered one thinking it was an actual gen 2.  I can confirm it's a gen 1 with updated feed ramps.  I briefly considered keeping it but finally decided to send it back for a refund, still waiting on that to get sorted out.  Waiting on my FFL to get back in town now so I can pick up my gen 2 compact.  I like the possible modular options you get with the gen 2 so I think I'll be happier with that choice.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 2:10:15 PM EST
[#49]
Was there a price increase for the Gen 2? I was seeing $1350 and now $1500.
Link Posted: 2/8/2019 2:13:04 PM EST
[#50]
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Originally Posted By Hulley:
Was there a price increase for the Gen 2? I was seeing $1350 and now $1500.
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Yes the MSRP has increased
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