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Posted: 6/22/2024 5:28:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: EOTechHWS]
Who makes the best commercial M1 Carbine these days? Or am I better off sourcing a Universal or Plainfield?
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IA, USA
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Posted: 6/22/2024 5:37:42 PM EDT
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300BO is everything 30 Carbine wished it could have been.
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MN, USA
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Posted: 6/22/2024 6:15:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M4BlackRifle]
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Fulton Armory manufactures the best new Caliber .30 M1 Carbine. Auto Ordinance and the new Inland Manufacturing rifles can have some issues.
If you are looking for a vintage commercial M1 Carbine, Alpine and the Japanese made Howa are the ones to get. Plainfield and Early Universal Carbines that still used USGI parts get good reviews. |
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Posted: 6/22/2024 7:02:03 PM EDT
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The only one worth buying current production is the Fulton.
The best non USGI maker was Howa, followed by pre-IJ Plainfield and early Universal, IMO. |
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Posted: 6/22/2024 8:11:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DonFlynn]
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Current manufacture as mentioned Fulton Armory is the way to go. I own a couple and their as well made as any USGI model during the war.
Here's a write up on what to look for in buying a Carbine, I mention commercial models https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/So-You-Want-to-Buy-a-M1-Carbine/6-546534/ If you can find a Howa made Carbine they were as well made as USGI models. I have 1 myself that's a tad of a oddball, it used a surplus USGI/Winchester receiver. Their rare though. |
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Posted: 6/22/2024 8:17:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4BlackRifle: Fulton Armory manufactures the best new Caliber .30 M1 Carbine. Auto Ordinance and the new Inland Manufacturing rifles can have some issues. If you are looking for a vintage commercial M1 Carbine, Alpine and the Japanese made Howa are the ones to get. Plainfield and Early Universal Carbines that still used USGI parts get good reviews. Personally, i would avoid the Alpine made ones. They used surplus 1903 barrels for some and also used a modified slide design when surplus USGI slide became scarce. "Gen 1" Universals are good if you can find a early 1 with a USGI slide and trigger group. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/22/2024 9:17:07 PM EDT
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Universal out of Hilea FL. used a lot of military parts the 1st year or two of production. Then made some patented changes and were in business selling them for around 11 years. IIRC
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SC, USA
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Posted: 6/22/2024 9:44:44 PM EDT
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For a few years IWI made decent copies of the M1 carbine.
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Posted: 6/23/2024 7:19:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: vellnueve]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sanlanman: For a few years IWI made decent copies of the M1 carbine. IWI and IAI are not related. IAI was run out of Texas and their guns were built off cast receivers by Larry Horner of Liberty Armory in the Houston area. They had no relation to IWI/IMI. They ceased to exist in the early 2000s after the owners went into debt and Mr. Horner passed away. IWI has never built M1 carbines. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 8:50:48 AM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 6/23/2024 12:59:23 PM EDT
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The commercial Rock-Ola carbine made by JRA has been flawless and a great shooter for my friend that has one. I've only owned USGI carbines, except for my very first carbine, which was a Universal.....which was a steaming POS
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Posted: 6/23/2024 2:07:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gasbar419: The commercial Rock-Ola carbine made by JRA has been flawless and a great shooter for my friend that has one. I've only owned USGI carbines, except for my very first carbine, which was a Universal.....which was a steaming POS They no longer make those. |
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USA
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Posted: 6/23/2024 7:02:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonFlynn: They no longer make those. Dang......if I ever had the hankering for another carbine, because of how nice his is, that was high on the list. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 7:24:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gasbar419: Dang......if I ever had the hankering for another carbine, because of how nice his is, that was high on the list. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gasbar419: Originally Posted By DonFlynn: They no longer make those. Dang......if I ever had the hankering for another carbine, because of how nice his is, that was high on the list. Closest I've been to a JRA carbine was a stripped receiver I bought a couple years ago, and it's had some issues. I've sent it to Fulton to swap out for one of their receivers. I did see 1 Youtube review that the owner was having similar issues with his JRA so I'm thinking he had the same issue, slightly out of spec receiver causing feed issues |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 8:54:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Urimaginaryfrnd: 300BO is everything 30 Carbine wished it could have been. So? |
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Posted: 6/25/2024 9:55:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By EOTechHWS: Who makes the best commercial M1 Carbine these days? Or am I better off sourcing a Universal or Plainfield? Best in what aspect? Accuracy? Reliability? I have an Iver Johnson that was a piece of shit when I bought it, but extremely accurate. Once I tweaked on it and ironed out the problems, it's now reliable and accurate. I've had others that were dead nuts reliable but not capable of shooting better than 5" groups at 100 yds. IMHO it's very hard to beat the 1st Generation Universal's. I've owned two (still own one) and both would do sub 3" at 100 yds. and sub 6" @ 200 yds.    If you can find a 1st Gen in the original stock, they're usually really nice looking walnut-   1st Generation Universal Carbine All that said, your average shooter isn't going to be able to wring the most accuracy out of these rifles to begin with. So, get whatever blows your skirt up. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 8:09:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: cherenkov]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ggibbs: Best in what aspect? Accuracy? Reliability? I have an Iver Johnson that was a piece of shit when I bought it, but extremely accurate. Once I tweaked on it and ironed out the problems, it's now reliable and accurate. I've had others that were dead nuts reliable but not capable of shooting better than 5" groups at 100 yds. IMHO it's very hard to beat the 1st Generation Universal's. I've owned two (still own one) and both would do sub 3" at 100 yds. and sub 6" @ 200 yds. https://i.imgur.com/Mx9ZQQrl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sWbe9QTl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/fzZLDncl.jpg If you can find a 1st Gen in the original stock, they're usually really nice looking walnut- https://i.imgur.com/2dPJh2Ul.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2Xgt6uel.jpg 1st Generation Universal Carbine All that said, your average shooter isn't going to be able to wring the most accuracy out of these rifles to begin with. So, get whatever blows your skirt up. Early Universals can sometimes be had for less because of the less liked later variants and the name brings the price point down - However early ones are indeed fine in my experience. I pick them up when I can. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 9:22:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cherenkov: I agree. I have a Low SN 1965 Universal that is converted to a registered M2 in the 60s. It works well even in full auto and is very accurate and is quite "pretty" with its fine walnut and polished blue. A commercially finished M1 carbine with a fair amount of GI parts, Forged receiver. Early Universals can sometimes be had for less because of the less liked later variants and the name brings the price point down - However early ones are indeed fine in my experience. I pick them up when I can. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cherenkov: Originally Posted By ggibbs: Best in what aspect? Accuracy? Reliability? I have an Iver Johnson that was a piece of shit when I bought it, but extremely accurate. Once I tweaked on it and ironed out the problems, it's now reliable and accurate. I've had others that were dead nuts reliable but not capable of shooting better than 5" groups at 100 yds. IMHO it's very hard to beat the 1st Generation Universal's. I've owned two (still own one) and both would do sub 3" at 100 yds. and sub 6" @ 200 yds. https://i.imgur.com/Mx9ZQQrl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sWbe9QTl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/fzZLDncl.jpg If you can find a 1st Gen in the original stock, they're usually really nice looking walnut- https://i.imgur.com/2dPJh2Ul.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2Xgt6uel.jpg type Status report message description Access to the specified resource has been forbidden. Apache Tomcat/7.0.68 (Ubuntu) |
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