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Posted: 1/18/2025 6:12:48 PM EDT
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I don't know too much about the serial numbers and the rarities of M1's. But this one sold for over 13K on CMP. Curious as to why. Thanks for any info! https://cmpauction.thecmp.org/detail.asp?id=8981&n=M1-Garand-Springfield-Armory-Service-Grade-676 |
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Attached File You'd have a hard time finding one that was made earlier than that one. |
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all in the description.. it being a gas trap serial alone is a big value increase. "This rifle is in overall very good condition. This three digit receiver was manufactured during the 4th month of production in Nov 1937 and was the 596th made during full production. Originally produced as a Gas Trap rifle it was later converted to a Gas Port rifle which means the gas system was replaced along with the barrel and a few other parts. However, this rifle has many parts that are appropriate to the time period of manufacture including parts that are considered rare." |
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Original condition with correct gas trap parts, I understand the price. Rebuilt to later specs, not so much. No different then a very early Colt M1911 with a later barrel, plastic grips, a couple replacement parts and WW2 slide assy. One is worth big money, the other one, only to a sucker. |
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I'm getting down to the last box, the others have all been destroyed...
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Originally Posted By fxntime: Original condition with correct gas trap parts, I understand the price. Rebuilt to later specs, not so much. No different then a very early Colt M1911 with a later barrel, plastic grips, a couple replacement parts and WW2 slide assy. One is worth big money, the other one, only to a sucker. Very low serial numbers and earlier rifles in the same condition and configuration will always bring a higher price. Most people have never seen a 3 digit serial M1, and out of the presumably 899 of them that were made there's likely significantly less than that still in existence. |
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Originally Posted By vellnueve: Very low serial numbers and earlier rifles in the same condition and configuration will always bring a higher price. Most people have never seen a 3 digit serial M1, and out of the presumably 899 of them that were made there's likely significantly less than that still in existence. Originally Posted By vellnueve: Originally Posted By fxntime: Original condition with correct gas trap parts, I understand the price. Rebuilt to later specs, not so much. No different then a very early Colt M1911 with a later barrel, plastic grips, a couple replacement parts and WW2 slide assy. One is worth big money, the other one, only to a sucker. Very low serial numbers and earlier rifles in the same condition and configuration will always bring a higher price. Most people have never seen a 3 digit serial M1, and out of the presumably 899 of them that were made there's likely significantly less than that still in existence. I agree as far as the serial number but the only claim that can honestly be made is that it's a 3 digit receiver. The rare parts make the price. I once sold a seriff sideways H 1911 barrel, very rare, was only in a very short 7500 SN run. The worth was in making a 1911 in that range correct. I pulled close to 3K for it and got to handle two within that SN range, one with the proper barrel and one without the correct one which is what it was going in. If the buyer can find or has all the correct parts to bring it back to correct as built, the price was not bad, if he can't, it's just a rebuild with a 3 digit serial number, very cool because of the 3 digit SN but past that, little different then millions of other rebuilt Garands. I understand if you feel differently and hell, I even understand it. I've dabbled [way to poor to do anything more] in the GI 1911 market way more then the Garand market so I'm probably biased as hell. But I drag my Clawson book around with me and have used it to price even more desirable 1911s due to replaced/incorrect parts. |
Liberals are a curious mix of communism and fascism, they want to destroy you but want to use your own money to do it.
I'm getting down to the last box, the others have all been destroyed...
I'm getting down to the last box, the others have all been destroyed...
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Originally Posted By pepe-lepew: Mostly because it is a CMP auction. CMP auctions typically go way above market price. Add a rarer item, like a low serial number, and prices get ridiculous. This Never use a CMP auction as a gauge of anything. https://cmpauction.thecmp.org/detail.asp?id=8945&n=Eddystone-Model-1917-Service-Grade-50004 |
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Originally Posted By fxntime: I agree as far as the serial number but the only claim that can honestly be made is that it's a 3 digit receiver. The rare parts make the price. I once sold a seriff sideways H 1911 barrel, very rare, was only in a very short 7500 SN run. The worth was in making a 1911 in that range correct. I pulled close to 3K for it and got to handle two within that SN range, one with the proper barrel and one without the correct one which is what it was going in. If the buyer can find or has all the correct parts to bring it back to correct as built, the price was not bad, if he can't, it's just a rebuild with a 3 digit serial number, very cool because of the 3 digit SN but past that, little different then millions of other rebuilt Garands. I understand if you feel differently and hell, I even understand it. I've dabbled [way to poor to do anything more] in the GI 1911 market way more then the Garand market so I'm probably biased as hell. But I drag my Clawson book around with me and have used it to price even more desirable 1911s due to replaced/incorrect parts. Yeah but it’s also the proper base for someone who has been collecting gas trap parts but doesn’t have an early rifle. |
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