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12/12/2024 5:14:39 PM EDT
Quick question about serial number cut offs if anyone is knowledgeable.

I've looked online but haven't been able to determine for sure. Looking at a garand that has a serial # in the mid 900,000s that is on a SA/GHS stock. Sources place the date of the serial number in 10/1942, and it appears that GHS retired in 07/1942.

Was there some bleed over after retirement, or would the mid 900,000s for sure have a EMcF stock?

Thank you
12/12/2024 8:49:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Creatyre:
Quick question about serial number cut offs if anyone is knowledgeable.

I've looked online but haven't been able to determine for sure. Looking at a garand that has a serial # in the mid 900,000s that is on a SA/GHS stock. Sources place the date of the serial number in 10/1942, and it appears that GHS retired in 07/1942.

Was there some bleed over after retirement, or would the mid 900,000s for sure have a EMcF stock?
Thank you
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No idea on the “bleed over” effect, but my 9XXXXX (built early Nov. 1942) is wearing a correct EMcF stock.
12/12/2024 9:14:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Nick_Adams:

No idea on the “bleed over” effect, but my 9XXXXX (built early Nov. 1942) is wearing a correct EMcF stock.
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Originally Posted By Nick_Adams:
Originally Posted By Creatyre:
Quick question about serial number cut offs if anyone is knowledgeable.

I've looked online but haven't been able to determine for sure. Looking at a garand that has a serial # in the mid 900,000s that is on a SA/GHS stock. Sources place the date of the serial number in 10/1942, and it appears that GHS retired in 07/1942.

Was there some bleed over after retirement, or would the mid 900,000s for sure have a EMcF stock?
Thank you

No idea on the “bleed over” effect, but my 9XXXXX (built early Nov. 1942) is wearing a correct EMcF stock.


Thank you for the info. The stock had gone through ria during eb, would ria stick a previously stamped stock on a reciever? All of the metal and wood matches so well together that it would seem it's been together a while, especially considering it doesn't appear to be correct.
12/13/2024 9:40:11 AM EDT
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Thank you for the info. The stock had gone through ria during eb, would ria stick a previously stamped stock on a reciever? All of the metal and wood matches so well together that it would seem it's been together a while, especially considering it doesn't appear to be correct.
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Originally Posted By Creatyre:
Originally Posted By Nick_Adams:
Originally Posted By Creatyre:
Quick question about serial number cut offs if anyone is knowledgeable.

I've looked online but haven't been able to determine for sure. Looking at a garand that has a serial # in the mid 900,000s that is on a SA/GHS stock. Sources place the date of the serial number in 10/1942, and it appears that GHS retired in 07/1942.

Was there some bleed over after retirement, or would the mid 900,000s for sure have a EMcF stock?
Thank you

No idea on the “bleed over” effect, but my 9XXXXX (built early Nov. 1942) is wearing a correct EMcF stock.


Thank you for the info. The stock had gone through ria during eb, would ria stick a previously stamped stock on a reciever? All of the metal and wood matches so well together that it would seem it's been together a while, especially considering it doesn't appear to be correct.

If it went thru RIA for an overhaul or rebuild, anything’s possible in the way of parts or stocks getting swapped. Mine is all original as it remained a stateside M1 during the war, so was never rebuilt. Came my way out of an estate.
12/13/2024 2:46:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Nick_Adams:

If it went thru RIA for an overhaul or rebuild, anything’s possible in the way of parts or stocks getting swapped. Mine is all original as it remained a stateside M1 during the war, so was never rebuilt. Came my way out of an estate.
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Originally Posted By Creatyre:
Originally Posted By Nick_Adams:
Originally Posted By Creatyre:
Quick question about serial number cut offs if anyone is knowledgeable.

I've looked online but haven't been able to determine for sure. Looking at a garand that has a serial # in the mid 900,000s that is on a SA/GHS stock. Sources place the date of the serial number in 10/1942, and it appears that GHS retired in 07/1942.

Was there some bleed over after retirement, or would the mid 900,000s for sure have a EMcF stock?
Thank you

No idea on the “bleed over” effect, but my 9XXXXX (built early Nov. 1942) is wearing a correct EMcF stock.


Thank you for the info. The stock had gone through ria during eb, would ria stick a previously stamped stock on a reciever? All of the metal and wood matches so well together that it would seem it's been together a while, especially considering it doesn't appear to be correct.

If it went thru RIA for an overhaul or rebuild, anything’s possible in the way of parts or stocks getting swapped. Mine is all original as it remained a stateside M1 during the war, so was never rebuilt. Came my way out of an estate.


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1/10/2025 5:28:59 AM EDT
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If you are concerned about originality there are many other parts to look for. If any of those parts have been swapped then I would say everything is "suspect" if you are trying to judge if the rifle is 100% in it's original form.
1/12/2025 3:03:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Creatyre:


Thank you for the info. The stock had gone through ria during eb, would ria stick a previously stamped stock on a reciever? All of the metal and wood matches so well together that it would seem it's been together a while, especially considering it doesn't appear to be correct.
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Arsenal would likely reuse all serviceable parts.  If stocks were armorer swapped in the field arsenal wouldn’t care. All they would care about is serviceability and stamping passed weapons.

When my dad was in, after a range session the rifle actions were pulled from the stocks and soaked in a drum of kerosene before cleaning. You got your serial numbered action back but not necessarily it’s particular stock.

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