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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:19:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dryflash3]
 Like this, about 3/8 inch thick, and aprox 2 foot in diameter. Piece is half of a circle.  All the print is backwards, the date is October 13, 1975. Tri City Herald.  Here it is sitting flat with the box of ingots that came in the deal. All in $80. This is from a regular vender I've gotten to know at this show. Every Saturday I ask if he brought any lead in? (It's very heavy and a pain to pack in with all the guns and other stuff). If he says no, I tell him to bring in in on Sunday. Last 2 shows I have done well. Update, post #30, I weighed the sheet, 40 pounds. Note bathroom scale used. No scientific scales used, sorry all you scientists. 
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:42:57 PM EDT
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Very nice haul. I’m glad it went to someone with the reloading and casting passion such as yourself.
What’s that thing weigh? |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:06:41 AM EDT
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I assume you cut it up into small chunks for smelting…. Do you cut it with a saw or a torch?
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IA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:59:30 AM EDT
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The type of press this was used on was called a letterhead press. A lot of the type we get was used on a stamp press. It is called a plate press. The roll you got is called a cyl plate used on a letterhead.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 5:13:30 AM EDT
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I took pictures of the various linotype examples at the Tombstone newspaper display...and the caster in me was wishing I had that much lead to play with!
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Posted: 5/1/2024 8:47:22 AM EDT
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Thanks for sharing, that's cool to see
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MN, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:20:24 PM EDT
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That's really cool - I always wondered about what it looked like before it was turned into bullets. :)
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:07:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Muricha: Very nice haul. I'm glad it went to someone with the reloading and casting passion such as yourself. What's that thing weigh? |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:10:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZA206: I assume you cut it up into small chunks for smelting . Do you cut it with a saw or a torch? Seller also sells small chunks 4x6 inches jagged shape. He said he hammers them to that size. Just small enough to fit in smelting pot. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:10:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tommee-boy-72: The type of press this was used on was called a letterhead press. A lot of the type we get was used on a stamp press. It is called a plate press. The roll you got is called a cyl plate used on a letterhead. 
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:12:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TribunusSanGeorgii: Thanks for sharing, that's cool to see |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:48:13 PM EDT
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What if anything do you need to add this source of lead for casting boolits?
IIRC wheel weight lead is about right in hardness for casting w/o anything added. How do you make a determination of the hardness? I’ve heard of using a #2 pencil to make a slight impression in the lead would be about right for casting. Very cool to see what linotype looks like. Thanks for sharing! |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:53:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaserBait: That's really cool - I always wondered about what it looked like before it was turned into bullets. :) Thanks! |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:44:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blowout: What if anything do you need to add this source of lead for casting boolits? IIRC wheel weight lead is about right in hardness for casting w/o anything added. How do you make a determination of the hardness? I've heard of using a #2 pencil to make a slight impression in the lead would be about right for casting. Very cool to see what linotype looks like. Thanks for sharing!  Things were different back then.We cast 357 bullets from a 2 gang Lyman mold. Dad soon bought a Lyman furnace and we cast in the garage with the door open. So any way I have a Lee hardness tester I haven't used yet. I just use the thumb nail scratch my dad taught me years ago. Nowadays all of my bullets are powder coated by me, and hardness hasn't been an issue for me. That's 357 and 44 mag full power loads, 223 at about 2500 fps that function, and around 2000fps in 7.62x39 loads functions well. No leading in any of those, if I had to guess probably close to Lyman #2 alloy. I have many different types of ingots I use for casting. So it's a mix of pure lead, solder, and unknown alloy I scrounge/buy. I have molds for all calibers I shoot, never know what the future holds. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:45:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dryflash3: I am old school, started casting with my Dad on the kitchen stove when I was about 12. Things were different back then.We cast 357 bullets from a 2 gang Lyman mold. Dad soon bought a Lyman furnace and we cast in the garage with the door open. So any way I have a Lee hardness tester I haven't used yet. I just use the thumb nail scratch my dad taught me years ago. Nowadays all of my bullets are powder coated by me, and hardness hasn't been an issue for me. That's 357 and 44 mag full power loads, 223 at about 2500 fps that function, and around 2000fps in 7.62x39 loads functions well. No leading in any of those, if I had to guess probably close to Lyman #2 alloy. I have many different types of ingots I use for casting. So it's a mix of pure lead, solder, and unknown alloy I scrounge/buy. I have molds for all calibers I shoot, never know what the future holds. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:51:19 PM EDT
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Now THAT'S a SCORE! And I bet HEAVY!
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IA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 6:47:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blowout: What if anything do you need to add this source of lead for casting boolits? IIRC wheel weight lead is about right in hardness for casting w/o anything added. How do you make a determination of the hardness? I’ve heard of using a #2 pencil to make a slight impression in the lead would be about right for casting. Very cool to see what linotype looks like. Thanks for sharing! Lino is used now mainly as a sweetener now that everyone is using powder coat. I mix my lino at 3 parts soft roof flashing lead to 1 part lino for all of my pistol stuff. Then for rifle I use 50/50 soft to lino |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 10:23:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dryflash3: I am old school, started casting with my Dad on the kitchen stove when I was about 12. Things were different back then.We cast 357 bullets from a 2 gang Lyman mold. Dad soon bought a Lyman furnace and we cast in the garage with the door open. So any way I have a Lee hardness tester I haven't used yet. I just use the thumb nail scratch my dad taught me years ago. Nowadays all of my bullets are powder coated by me, and hardness hasn't been an issue for me. That's 357 and 44 mag full power loads, 223 at about 2500 fps that function, and around 2000fps in 7.62x39 loads functions well. No leading in any of those, if I had to guess probably close to Lyman #2 alloy. I have many different types of ingots I use for casting. So it's a mix of pure lead, solder, and unknown alloy I scrounge/buy. I have molds for all calibers I shoot, never know what the future holds. Remodeling our house, my dad used lead wool for ceramic waste drain connections and pour liquid lead on top of that to seal the joint. That got him thinking about casting his own bullets when I was probably 7 or 8. The bullets were too soft and the guy at the LGS gave him some antimony to harden it up. Told dad just a little was needed. No leading after that. Makes sense that powder coating would help prevent leading even with softer lead. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 10:24:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tommee-boy-72: Lino is used now mainly as a sweetener now that everyone is using powder coat. I mix my lino at 3 parts soft roof flashing lead to 1 part lino for all of my pistol stuff. Then for rifle I use 50/50 soft to lino Sounds like Lino has some hardening component to it. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:30:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CRNUMBER: Now THAT'S a SCORE! And I bet HEAVY!  |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 12:07:04 PM EDT
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Tri City Herald? Richland Kennewick Pasco?
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Posted: 5/2/2024 12:53:42 PM EDT
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My father had an uncle that worked at a newspaper. He told me his uncle has some old plates in his garage. He ones he remembered were used to print the Sunday comics.
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Posted: 5/2/2024 1:15:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rn22723: Tri City Herald? Richland Kennewick Pasco? |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 8:33:53 PM EDT
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Cool photo.
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Posted: 5/2/2024 9:40:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Creole_Cat: Cool photo.
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Posted: 5/2/2024 9:49:18 PM EDT
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I bought five 5 gallon buckets of lino type letters from a guy in Baltimore a decade or so ago. He was oooooold and used to work at a print shop. I've still got a few hundred pounds of it but it's been smelted down. Was really cool to see.
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Posted: 5/3/2024 8:19:56 AM EDT
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That's really cool to see. I would kinda hate to melt it down.
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Posted: 5/3/2024 12:49:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By klutz347: That's really cool to see. I would kinda hate to melt it down. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:25:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Green_Canoe]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blowout: What if anything do you need to add this source of lead for casting boolits? IIRC wheel weight lead is about right in hardness for casting w/o anything added. How do you make a determination of the hardness? I’ve heard of using a #2 pencil to make a slight impression in the lead would be about right for casting. Very cool to see what linotype looks like. Thanks for sharing! I use a comparison test by smashing a ball bearing between a sample of pure lead and the sample of unknown hardness lead. It sounds involved but when you actually do it it's really easy. Instead of a ball bearing I use an automotive ball joint ball I had laying around. The reason I use this method is it is completely free and I test very rarely. Here's a link that describes the method: Ball bearing hardness test method |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:55:43 AM EDT
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Pretty cool. I wouldn’t melt it unless I was truly desperate. Have a pile of linotype and foundry type, and linotype pigs, but have never seen a full sheet like that. Do have plenty of words though of lino, the foundry is individual letters. Matter of fact, in all the research I did regarding figuring out what I had, I never saw mention of a full cast sheet like that- just type setting using “lines of type”. Usually when you find stuff from old newspapers it is just words, drawers and drawers full of words or letters, different sizes, etc.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 11:51:23 AM EDT
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Well brought out the bathroom scale to the shop and weighed me.
Then weighed me holding the sheet of linotype. I gained 40 pounds.  So my guess of 40-50 pounds was pretty close. |
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