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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:39:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:41:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AbleArcher]
[#1]
First impressions are it is very well put together. Starting at the lid:
 Attached FileTons of space and pockets. Consider this a place holder, I have to scale down the photos to post them.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:44:43 PM EDT
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The actual pack itself:
 Attached File Attached File Attached FileIt seems very well put together and the materials appear to be of good quality and construction. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:46:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AbleArcher]
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Plenty of storage options and access to the main body:
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:17:18 PM EDT
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Excellent pack, I love mine!!!
Extremely well thought out, but then again I believe I know who helped in that, and he's got a boatload of time in the field! |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:24:34 PM EDT
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Hopefully I'll get it out for a ruck this week and then some shooting Sunday as well.
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Posted: 4/17/2024 4:44:57 PM EDT
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Had just a little bit of time to get it out today.
 Attached FileNo real weight in it and just a little bit of running and gunning. Interfaced perfectly with the Onward Research Recce Rig. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 4:05:07 PM EDT
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Put about 4 miles on it this weekend with no real weight just to identify rub points, of which I didn't notice any.
Did some more moving and shooting today and incorporated the mags and pistol onto the belt.  Attached FileOverall I've been very happy how it's come together as a system so far. I'll keep getting miles and time on it to see how it continues to shake out. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 4:29:20 PM EDT
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Looking good brother! This is the pack a lot of guys have been asking for. Something in between an assault pack and a "3-day" pack. Like about 45L size. So for sure a good "overnight" pack, with just enough size for food, water, comms, overhead cover, ranger roll, and maybe a few clothing layers per season. What has been called a 3-day pack, is more like what I think of as an over night pack, and this is it. The DG3/CF3 is more of what I call a true 3-day+ pack. This thing is perfect for milder weather, where you don't need a tent, or full sleep system. Just a basha and poncho & liner. Where I live, this is 3/4 of the time.
The inspiration was for this was the VC or NVA ruck, which was also produced on Okinawa for the CIA/MACV-SOG. It's just a darn good size that a lot of guys like. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:33:49 PM EDT
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Crossfire packs are where it's at for this kind of thing. They work well with both full belt kits AND plate carrier setups too, which makes them super versatile.
While I'm a huge huge fan of Hill People Gear packs for non-tactical stuff - and they ABSOLUTELY work for tactical stuff, I run a Tarahumara docked to my Crossfire pack as a mini-assault pack, which works great btw - but the Crossfire just fills some of those boxes better. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 5:42:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By marnsdorff: Crossfire packs are where it's at for this kind of thing. They work well with both full belt kits AND plate carrier setups too, which makes them super versatile. While I'm a huge huge fan of Hill People Gear packs for non-tactical stuff - and they ABSOLUTELY work for tactical stuff, I run a Tarahumara docked to my Crossfire pack as a mini-assault pack, which works great btw - but the Crossfire just fills some of those boxes better. I absolutely will echo your thoughts WRT crossfire and HPG packs. I actually vastly prefer Crossfire's suspension over HPG when it comes to carrying real weight. I hiked 11 miles in a rough canyon a little while ago with my HPG Decker and it was punishing with 60lbs. The same loadout in my DG3 slick was heavy but manageable. I LOVE the Tarahumara and use it as an E&E bag under the lid of my CF MKVII. I like crossfire rucks so much I'm gonna sell my Decker setup and maybe find a used DG3. I found the HPG harness to be an absolute pain in the ass to get under with a decent load vs the Crossfire suspension. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 8:01:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: marnsdorff]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vexed: I absolutely will echo your thoughts WRT crossfire and HPG packs. I actually vastly prefer Crossfire's suspension over HPG when it comes to carrying real weight. I hiked 11 miles in a rough canyon a little while ago with my HPG Decker and it was punishing with 60lbs. The same loadout in my DG3 slick was heavy but manageable. I LOVE the Tarahumara and use it as an E&E bag under the lid of my CF MKVII. I like crossfire rucks so much I'm gonna sell my Decker setup and maybe find a used DG3. I found the HPG harness to be an absolute pain in the ass to get under with a decent load vs the Crossfire suspension. I'm modifying the beavertail / helmet cover thingy on the DG3 that I have to allow me to use it to cinch down on the Tarahumara that I keep on the back of the pack (basically just making one of the top straps slightly longer) This allows me to quickly put it on and off of the pack. I use a foam sleeping pad that goes under the lid. The HPG Umlindi makes a great assault / 1 or 2 day pack too btw. Goes well with belt kit. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 9:45:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By marnsdorff: I'm modifying the beavertail / helmet cover thingy on the DG3 that I have to allow me to use it to cinch down on the Tarahumara that I keep on the back of the pack (basically just making one of the top straps slightly longer) This allows me to quickly put it on and off of the pack. I use a foam sleeping pad that goes under the lid. The HPG Umlindi makes a great assault / 1 or 2 day pack too btw. Goes well with belt kit. That sounds like a great pairing. I wish I got the DG16 instead of the MKVII so I could do the same. I think the Hill people gear harness shines on smaller packs. It’s extremely comfortable for lighter loads. The Umlindi seems like a great pack to run with belt kit. I have decided any pack I own should be compatible with belt kit these days. The fact you can adjust Crossfire rucks to be long or short back is just another reason they will get all my future ruck money. OP, very nice ruck! |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 9:56:28 PM EDT
[#13]
Take note, now that is a proper unboxing post.
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KS, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:48:42 PM EDT
[#14]
Damn that is nice.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:24:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Diz]
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Yeah the CF-2 fills a nice little niche guys have been asking about for awhile. So we have re-vamped our whole line up for 2024. The CF1 replaces the DG1. It now has a zip off helmet cave and ladder racks for toggle pouches. The CF2 is the new size. The CF3 replaces the DG3. Again new ladder racks and toggled-on pouches. The new CF4 will replace both the DG16 and the Mk7. It will also have the ladder racks for the new toggle on pouches, which have been totally re-designed. The CF4's should be out 4th Qtr of 2024. Lord willing and the Creek don't rise. We will be having good deals on the Mk7's to deplete stock before the new design hits.
We are also doing re-designs of the suspension system, to carry heavier loads with less sway. Updates are being incrementally introduced on the new models, culminating in the CF4. After that hits, it will be the standard, and all other models will follow suit. And of course the Diz rigs, which will have a new additional pouch suite out in 2d Qtr, hopefully. Thanks to all and sundry for their support. We've spent the last 5 years tweaking some really good Aussie designs, and adding our own belt kit. Crossfire and Wilderness Equipment have been making military rucksacks for the Aussies since the 80's. Same as I've done with belt kits. It's been and good combination. |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 8:22:18 AM EDT
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Got out yesterday under the standard 35 pounds for 4 miles. Felt really good, no rubbing, no hot spots. Overall very comfortable. I just threw a plate in for the weight. Ill start doing actual pack outs for usability throughout the summer.
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Posted: 5/3/2024 7:22:59 AM EDT
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Right on. Doing much the same out here. I will re-start an annual training program each spring, starting light and working up. Also start out in running shoes to get feet used to pounding before switching up to light hikers. I think this works out for the best, as an annual sustainment program, giving my bod a rest, and then working back up again. Trying to maintain the same level of fitness year-round just leads to injury and illness. BTDT.
Also if you haven't tried it, get some Mennen Power Speed Stick. On feet, pits, and crotch. Same thing as Body Glide at 1/4 the price. It's really just a heavy wax which prevents rubbing and chaffing. The unscented is my favorite. I want a chaffing guard, not something to smell purty. 
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Posted: 5/3/2024 8:41:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Diz: Right on. Doing much the same out here. I will re-start an annual training program each spring, starting light and working up. Also start out in running shoes to get feet used to pounding before switching up to light hikers. I think this works out for the best, as an annual sustainment program, giving my bod a rest, and then working back up again. Trying to maintain the same level of fitness year-round just leads to injury and illness. BTDT. Also if you haven't tried it, get some Mennen Power Speed Stick. On feet, pits, and crotch. Same thing as Body Glide at 1/4 the price. It's really just a heavy wax which prevents rubbing and chaffing. The unscented is my favorite. I want a chaffing guard, not something to smell purty. I've never used a body glide. It wasn't allowed at some schools so it was something I ever invested in and used. But with this ruck I don't think it would be necessary anyway. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 11:21:32 AM EDT
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OP. Have you ever used the Eberlestock Fac-Trac? I’m wondering how the CF2 compares. I have the FC and I like it 90% of the time.
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Posted: 5/3/2024 4:56:36 PM EDT
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Should have my modified Medium ALICE (Spec Ops Ultra Ruck) in Multicam back from my local shop soon. If I'm not happy with how it turns out I'm going to buy a Crossfire Pack and just go that route until perhaps at some point Tactical Tailor finally comes out with their medium MALICE pack.
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Posted: 5/4/2024 2:03:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lungbuster: OP. Have you ever used the Eberlestock Fac-Trac? I’m wondering how the CF2 compares. I have the FC and I like it 90% of the time. I have not, but I'll see if I can get my hands on one to compare them side by side. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 10:36:05 AM EDT
[#22]
 Attached FileGot some rappel time in. Usually I tape up tails but I used the provided velcro and no issue with anything coming loose. Wasn't super heavy, just a standard 35. Everything stayed where it should during the rappel and there were no issues. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 4:41:28 PM EDT
[#23]
Is it possible to switch out the shoulder straps or hip belt?
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Posted: 5/10/2024 5:51:23 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: Is it possible to switch out the shoulder straps or hip belt? They are, it's an external modular frame.  Attached File Attached FileI don't think I would though. It's a really good system. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 10:38:50 AM EDT
[#25]
Yes it is completely replaceable, not to mention pretty adjustable.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 2:13:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KaerMorhenResident]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbleArcher: They are, it's an external modular frame. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/188236/1000014210_jpg-3210649.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/188236/1000014209_jpg-3210650.JPG I don't think I would though. It's a really good system. Thanks. I'm just thinking of maybe straps that are less bulky if it has to be worn in conjunction with body armor. If you remove the shoulder straps though are you losing that center net cushion area as well? |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:38:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: Thanks. I'm just thinking of maybe straps that are less bulky if it has to be worn in conjunction with body armor. If you remove the shoulder straps though are you losing that center net cushion area as well? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: Originally Posted By AbleArcher: They are, it's an external modular frame. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/188236/1000014210_jpg-3210649.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/188236/1000014209_jpg-3210650.JPG I don't think I would though. It's a really good system. Thanks. I'm just thinking of maybe straps that are less bulky if it has to be worn in conjunction with body armor. If you remove the shoulder straps though are you losing that center net cushion area as well? Yes.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 4:05:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbleArcher: Yes. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/188236/1000014223_jpg-3213506.JPG Thanks AbleArcher. Looks like a great pack. Expensive, but you get what you pay for, buy once cry once and all of that. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 12:50:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KaerMorhenResident]
[#29]
Just pulled the trigger and ordered a CF2 for myself. Thanks Able Archer and Diz!
I also ordered two sets of the half loafs pouches and a helmet net/carrier for it. Really want the Day Pack Lid for it, as I understand from Instagram the Day Pack Lid underwent a redesign and will be back in stock when the new and improved version is ready, which is hopefully soon. Can't wait to get it, I've been letting too many nice weekends slip by me without a good backpacking trip. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 5:51:53 PM EDT
[#30]
Right on dude. Hit me up for some "Baugetts" to go with them. We've been playing around with them this week on the CF2's. When combined with half loafs, (and day pack lid), they work awesome to give you a sort of Med MALICE pack.
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MD, USA
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Posted: 5/17/2024 7:09:20 PM EDT
[#31]
Not sure which daypack lid I have, but it is awesome. The two pockets that make up the bag are easily the size of the pockets on an Alice pack. I really like how that works out. Makes the overall pack less wide, and puts the weight up top. Thanks again Diz!
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/17/2024 8:57:39 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cap6888: Not sure which daypack lid I have, but it is awesome. The two pockets that make up the bag are easily the size of the pockets on an Alice pack. I really like how that works out. Makes the overall pack less wide, and puts the weight up top. Thanks again Diz! I need to get a daypack lid when the new ones come out. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:38:01 AM EDT
[#33]
Yeah it's a complete re-design.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:42:43 AM EDT
[#34]
I may or may not have an irrational fear of packs with giant, critical, zippers.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:24:44 AM EDT
[#35]
Ha ah yeah I was certainly with you on that. Maybe I still am, a little bit.
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MD, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 11:24:53 AM EDT
[#36]
@Diz
Is there more pictures/videos/descriptions of the LTAS? I couldn’t find anything on the Crossfire website or the interwebz. But my Google fu may be weak. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 1:16:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: I may or may not have an irrational fear of packs with giant, critical, zippers. No joke. It's one of the reasons I'm doing the Medium ALICE project - and probably eventually a Large ALICE for myself. Though I'm going to put mine on a Crossfire frame. The Crossfire packs are nice - I'm not dissing the pack themselves. I actually don't think the pack will fail, especially since I never use the zipper, just go through the top. I'm just....paranoid about zippers. And velcros. I've seen them fail too often. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 2:36:54 PM EDT
[#38]
Getting some wall jumps in with the APC packing list.
 Attached FileI'll do some hard stops and really stress those zippers. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 4:42:16 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Diz: Right on dude. Hit me up for some "Baugetts" to go with them. We've been playing around with them this week on the CF2's. When combined with half loafs, (and day pack lid), they work awesome to give you a sort of Med MALICE pack. Will take you up on that offer. I'm excited to see the new day pack lid, I have a slight idea of what you guys might be going for with it and if it works out it could be a game changer for me anyways. Any idea when the day pack lid will be out? We looking at it by the end of summer or beyond? |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 4:43:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KaerMorhenResident]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbleArcher: Getting some wall jumps in with the APC packing list. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/188236/1000014266_jpg-3217478.JPG I'll do some hard stops and really stress those zippers. Nice, I like how with the LTAS system you can run a small axe behind pouches on the slide. I'm guessing you could run trekking poles or a machete like that as well. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 4:50:16 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbleArcher: \ I'll do some hard stops and really stress those zippers. 
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Posted: 5/18/2024 11:37:17 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By marnsdorff: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By marnsdorff: Originally Posted By AbleArcher: I'll do some hard stops and really stress those zippers. No issues today at all. |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 4:39:53 PM EDT
[#43]
Just waiting on my order to ship, got the email today that my shipping label was created this morning.
We'll see how long it takes to get to me here in Michigan. I can't do any real backpacking this weekend, but I'm hoping to squeeze in a real nice morning ruck on Saturday so hopefully I have it by Friday so that I can play around with setting it up on Friday night. |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 6:46:04 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: Just waiting on my order to ship, got the email today that my shipping label was created this morning. We'll see how long it takes to get to me here in Michigan. I can't do any real backpacking this weekend, but I'm hoping to squeeze in a real nice morning ruck on Saturday so hopefully I have it by Friday so that I can play around with setting it up on Friday night. Please post up your review and thoughts when you get it in |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2024 9:09:09 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbleArcher: No issues today at all. Dangit. I just knew they were going to immediately fail. I guess I really should trust my Crossfire pack that's my primary pack atm, huh?
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Posted: 5/20/2024 10:08:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AbleArcher]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By marnsdorff: Dangit. I just knew they were going to immediately fail. I guess I really should trust my Crossfire pack that's my primary pack atm, huh? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By marnsdorff: Originally Posted By AbleArcher: No issues today at all. Dangit. I just knew they were going to immediately fail. I guess I really should trust my Crossfire pack that's my primary pack atm, huh? Even if something goes wrong with mine I'm rolling with it until I have a catastrophic failure. I cracked the frame on my issued ruck a week after bring issued.  Attached FileThat was a few years ago and many thousands of pounds and miles ago. It kept going. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 3:21:58 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbleArcher: Even if something goes wrong with mine I'm rolling with it until I have a catastrophic failure. I cracked the frame on my issued ruck a week after bring issued. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/188236/1000014282_jpg-3219641.JPG That was a few years ago and many thousands of pounds and miles ago. It kept going. I actually think the Crossfire pack is fine. I run Hill People Gear packs for backpacking, and while I wish they had a different top, the zippers have been fine. Before that was a Mystery Ranch that I still have. Zipper is fine. I just don't like zippers, even though if they are well designed, they tend to be fine. I still don't trust them though. |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 7:40:40 AM EDT
[#48]
I hear ya mate; I'm not 100% with them either.
You guys break a frame we will replace it. The only trouble we've had is when guys really over-load them past the breaking point. And those guys who have a truck run over their ruck and then say a crack mysteriously appeared overnight.  We are also R&Ding a range of pads for those heavier days. |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 12:31:30 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Diz: I hear ya mate; I'm not 100% with them either. You guys break a frame we will replace it. The only trouble we've had is when guys really over-load them past the breaking point. And those guys who have a truck run over their ruck and then say a crack mysteriously appeared overnight. We are also R&Ding a range of pads for those heavier days. I intend to use this for work, what is considered the weight limit or overloading? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 1:08:30 PM EDT
[#50]
The Crossfire frame seems sturdier than the USGI ones I've handled. That's one reason I'm happy with it.
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