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Trumpet

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Posted: 7/1/2024 9:48:58 PM EDT

Alright, so I have a Howa mini action in .300 BO on the way. The plan is to SBR it and drop it in a chassis. I have a Brownells/MDT on my 5.56 mini and it's great. Anyone with a JTAC how do you like it? Particularly the telescoping stock? Pork Sword? I figure the MDT is $429 for just the chassis. The Pork Sword I can get complete with folder for $498. Elf Owl is $742. Thoughts?

turbobrick

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Posted: 7/2/2024 1:01:48 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Trumpet:
Alright, so I have a Howa mini action in .300 BO on the way. The plan is to SBR it and drop it in a chassis. I have a Brownells/MDT on my 5.56 mini and it's great. Anyone with a JTAC how do you like it? Particularly the telescoping stock? Pork Sword? I figure the MDT is $429 for just the chassis. The Pork Sword I can get complete with folder for $498. Elf Owl is $742. Thoughts?

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The Pork Sword is currently only for Rem700 short action footprint, so no go for Howa Mini, but I do like mine on my 8.6blk. I had the factory MDT made folder on one of my Minis in 6arc, it was just ok, the LOP is too long with a fixed stock, and its way too long with a folder. No experience with the Elf, but had I kept my second Mini I was going to try one.

Trumpet Member Joined Mar 2001 Posts 24045 EE 100% (38) MD, USA	Posted: 7/2/2024 10:35:39 AM EDT [#2] Huh. I could've sworn the Pork Sword was available for the Howa. That sucks. While I like the compactness of the Elf Owl stock, I'm not convinced how "usable" it is. I'm also considering a Stocky's CF vertical grip "blem". Although, I'm not sure on the viability of cutting down the forearm to fit a shortened barrel.

parshooter Member Joined Jan 2001 Posts 21306 EE 100% (3) FL, USA	Posted: 7/2/2024 10:07:58 PM EDT [#3] Quote History Originally Posted By Trumpet: While I like the compactness of the Elf Owl stock, I'm not convinced how "usable" it is. View Quote Their TEL stock was on mine only a few minutes before I decided to swap it out and is now collecting dust. Howa 6.5G and 22-250:
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turbobrick

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Posted: 7/3/2024 12:03:08 AM EDT

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This is my Mini 6arc in a Stocky's CF stock. I had Carbon6 put a new barrel on it, and I inlet the stock myself. I'd think you'd have no trouble cutting the forend down the little if needed.

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This is the Howa/MDT chassis. If you use a short buffer tube and a very compact stock, you can get to a reasonable LOP, this ended up being prefect.

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Trumpet Member Joined Mar 2001 Posts 24047 EE 100% (38) MD, USA	Posted: 7/3/2024 10:49:55 AM EDT [#5] Yeah, my .223 is in an LSS. Since the next one is going to be SBR'd, I figure I'd try something "foldy". Now, if I were to go with the Elf Owl and their pic adaptor or LSS with an A3 or KNS buffer to pic adapter with a short A3 7" offset folder would work?

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Posted: 7/3/2024 10:43:04 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Trumpet:
Yeah, my .223 is in an LSS.

https://i.imgur.com/Eutmuflh.jpg

Since the next one is going to be SBR'd, I figure I'd try something "foldy". Now, if I were to go with the Elf Owl and their pic adaptor or LSS with an A3 or KNS buffer to pic adapter with a short A3 7" offset folder would work?

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This is with a LWRC UCIW receiver extension and the factory Howa hinge. I trimmed a little off both ends of the extension, and maybe 1/8" off the back of the chassis, it all added up to perfect LOP. The Howa hinge isn't amazing, but it's folded offset was the only reason the stock cleared the bolt knob while folded.

1iviper Member Joined Sep 2005 Posts 4612 EE 100% (648) VA, USA	Posted: 7/4/2024 3:22:05 PM EDT [#7] i always liked the southern cross small arms tsp x folding chassis for a howa mini action

Trumpet Member Joined Mar 2001 Posts 24050 EE 100% (38) MD, USA	Posted: 7/4/2024 6:03:57 PM EDT [Last Edit: Trumpet] [#8] Anyone use the Accurate-Mag one? I believe it's what Howa used on the HCR. AM

Trumpet Member Joined Mar 2001 Posts 24052 EE 100% (38) MD, USA	Posted: 7/5/2024 9:09:36 AM EDT [#9] Quote History Originally Posted By parshooter: Their TEL stock was on mine only a few minutes before I decided to swap it out and is now collecting dust. Howa 6.5G and 22-250: https://www.imgur.com/ebAQ9do.jpeg https://www.imgur.com/Gg7QZrW.jpeg View Quote Very Nice! What length forearm did you do with on the 6.5?

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Posted: 7/5/2024 3:13:07 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Trumpet:
Very Nice! What length forearm did you do with on the 6.5?

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Originally Posted By Trumpet:

Originally Posted By parshooter:
Their TEL stock was on mine only a few minutes before I decided to swap it out and is now collecting dust.

Howa 6.5G and 22-250:
https://www.imgur.com/ebAQ9do.jpeg

https://www.imgur.com/Gg7QZrW.jpeg

Very Nice! What length forearm did you do with on the 6.5?

9.5" for the Grendel, the one pictured above with the thermal on it. That's measuring from the front of the chassis to the tip and doesn't include the tabs on either side with the screws through them.

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jbooker82

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Posted: 7/5/2024 5:10:42 PM EDT

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Wich telescoping stock? The one that uses an AR stock on a buffer tube mount or the TEL 2.0 that has the two rods on each side?

I have the TEL on my 300 black out and I like it. I have my optic mounted low as possible with traditional rings vs a tall AR style cantilever mount.

If your wanting a more adjustable stock they are coming out with a side folder too.

Trumpet

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Posted: 7/11/2024 10:55:45 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Trumpet:
Anyone use the Accurate-Mag one? I believe it's what Howa used on the HCR.

AM

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Found a photo of the Accurate Mag chassis. They used to sell them like this, but then they cheaped out and the one they currently sell as the EXCL Lite, is pretty much a polymer copy of the Accurate Mag one. This is pretty much an HCR chassis, scaled down to fit the mini action. If I went this route, I wouldn't use the behemoth Luth stock, but a folder.

levi333 Joined Dec 2006 Posts 572 EE 100% (19) OR, USA	Posted: 7/20/2024 11:04:37 AM EDT [#13] I like the Elf Owl I put together when Jtac stopped offering the 300blk. My goal was short and light, subsonics only.

Trumpet Member Joined Mar 2001 Posts 24103 EE 100% (38) MD, USA	Posted: 7/20/2024 11:06:03 AM EDT [#14] Quote History Originally Posted By levi333: I like the Elf Owl I put together when Jtac stopped offering the 300blk. My goal was short and light, subsonics only. https://i.imgur.com/SDBmJSG.jpg View Quote That's freakin' sweet!

jbooker82 Joined Sep 2014 Posts 2878 EE 100% (2) NE, USA	Posted: 7/20/2024 11:42:32 PM EDT [#15] Brownells has Howa 300 BLK barreled actions again.

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