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Posted: 3/19/2021 9:13:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: duckhook02]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fivepointoh: Pretty sure thats what is happening with a lot of higher dollar items (Sig MCX Virtus).... Distros and dealers aren't even letting them hit the shelves, just throwing them straight to gunbroker. Makes it hard to support the local people when they're doing this. I'm not against them trying to make money, but eventually, I have a feeling this bubble will burst and they're gonna be left holding the bag. Here are just a few of the recent GB auctions I've seen from B3 Armament (KAC direct dealer). Hope you weren't looking for a SR-15 CQB or suppressor from them... SR-15 CQB 7.62 QDC/CQB SR-15 CQB (2) |
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Posted: 3/19/2021 9:58:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By duckhook02: Here are just a few of the recent GB auctions I've seen from B3 Armament (KAC direct dealer). Hope you weren't looking for a SR-15 CQB or suppressor from them... SR-15 CQB 7.62 QDC/CQB SR-15 CQB (2) 
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Posted: 3/19/2021 10:09:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By duckhook02: Here are just a few of the recent GB auctions I've seen from B3 Armament (KAC direct dealer). Hope you weren't looking for a SR-15 CQB or suppressor from them... SR-15 CQB 7.62 QDC/CQB SR-15 CQB (2) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By duckhook02: Originally Posted By fivepointoh: Pretty sure thats what is happening with a lot of higher dollar items (Sig MCX Virtus).... Distros and dealers aren't even letting them hit the shelves, just throwing them straight to gunbroker. Makes it hard to support the local people when they're doing this. I'm not against them trying to make money, but eventually, I have a feeling this bubble will burst and they're gonna be left holding the bag. Here are just a few of the recent GB auctions I've seen from B3 Armament (KAC direct dealer). Hope you weren't looking for a SR-15 CQB or suppressor from them... SR-15 CQB 7.62 QDC/CQB SR-15 CQB (2) Shame, I bought my machine gun from B3 a few years ago.. they were a pleasure to deal with. |
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Posted: 3/19/2021 10:26:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By duckhook02: Here are just a few of the recent GB auctions I've seen from B3 Armament (KAC direct dealer). Hope you weren't looking for a SR-15 CQB or suppressor from them... SR-15 CQB 7.62 QDC/CQB SR-15 CQB (2) As long as the product is as described and they hold up their end of the bargain, they are good in my book. 7-10 mil new gun owners in 2020 Stimulus money Manufactures can’t ramp up as quickly as demand dictates Pandemic Threat of anti-2A legislation Civil unrest People bored as shit and guns are fun It’s the perfect storm - everyone should stop blaming dealers and distributors for trying to get everyone what the want. They literally exist to make money. In slow times, they sell stuff for way under MSRP and everything is available - and nobody is worried about them when they are struggling. But in crazy times, the consensus is they are awful if they make more than MSRP? Price is the only thing that will regulate this crazy demand until supply can catch up or demand dwindles. |
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Posted: 3/19/2021 10:34:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bkbz: As long as the product is as described and they hold up their end of the bargain, they are good in my book. 7-10 mil new gun owners in 2020 Stimulus money Manufactures can’t ramp up as quickly as demand dictates Pandemic Threat of anti-2A legislation Civil unrest People bored as shit and guns are fun It’s the perfect storm - everyone should stop blaming dealers and distributors for trying to get everyone what the want. They literally exist to make money. In slow times, they sell stuff for way under MSRP and everything is available - and nobody is worried about them when they are struggling. But in crazy times, the consensus is they are awful if they make more than MSRP? Price is the only thing that will regulate this crazy demand until supply can catch up or demand dwindles. Lets be honest here, we're all just salty we can't find an IWS lower for less than 1400 dollars |
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Posted: 3/19/2021 10:37:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tactical_Bucket: Lets be honest here, we're all just salty we can't find an IWS lower for less than 1400 dollars You mean you can find *additional* IWS lowers for under 1400. I’m willing to bet you have at least 1 in your possession. |
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Posted: 3/19/2021 10:38:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: Tactical_Bucket]
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I dont no
 Trying to get a build together right now and it's rough af |
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Posted: 3/19/2021 11:20:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By duckhook02: Operation Parts/Small Arm Sales, PreSample Depot, KF Armory and Rooftop Defense are 4 dealers who are actually listing their in demand KAC stuff on their website at MSRP...and while I often miss out on the drops, those will be the KAC dealers I continue to do business with going forward. Only have firsthand experience with KF but agree 100% |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 12:53:52 AM EST
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Rooftop defense, presample depot, and operation parts are being class acts in a difficult market. They are taking care of us when they could be scalping, so let’s make double sure we show them that same kindness when things slow down.
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Posted: 3/20/2021 5:37:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flg23: Rooftop defense, presample depot, and operation parts are being class acts in a difficult market. They are taking care of us when they could be scalping, so let’s make double sure we show them that same kindness when things slow down. Rooftop has become my go to for anything I need that they have in stock. My Ramen collection is a lot larger than it should be 
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Posted: 3/20/2021 6:13:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marksman14: Rooftop has become my go to for anything I need that they have in stock. My Ramen collection is a lot larger than it should be Same here, Sol is a fantastic dude and I’ll happily give him my money. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 8:34:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: SMFdarkangel]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flg23: Rooftop defense, presample depot, and operation parts are being class acts in a difficult market. They are taking care of us when they could be scalping, so let’s make double sure we show them that same kindness when things slow down. ^This x1000^ Me and my buddies were just talking about this. I've started making mental notes of companies/people that have taken advantage of this crisis. The MAC SVD scandal is a perfect example. PSD is one of the few that has not and will continue to get my business even after all this is long over. The way I look at it, you're free to charge whatever you want and be a scum bag. And I am free to take my money elsewhere. If you think sacrificing your company's brand/reputation is worth the short term profits, knock yourself the heck out. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 8:48:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flg23: Rooftop defense, presample depot, and operation parts are being class acts in a difficult market. They are taking care of us when they could be scalping, so let’s make double sure we show them that same kindness when things slow down. 100% agree. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 11:28:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flg23: Rooftop defense, presample depot, and operation parts are being class acts in a difficult market. They are taking care of us when they could be scalping, so let’s make double sure we show them that same kindness when things slow down. There are some really great guys running these companies. Eric at PSD and Sol at Rooftop Defense are two of my favorites -- I try to be sure to give them my business whenever possible. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 3:11:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WVUSIG: There are some really great guys running these companies. Eric at PSD and Sol at Rooftop Defense are two of my favorites -- I try to be sure to give them my business whenever possible. I'm going to make a point of NOT buying any KAC gear from the resellers that are putting their high demand items on Gunbroker. Like I said, I'm very surprised KAC has not slapped them. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 3:53:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EnduroKid: I'm going to make a point of NOT buying any KAC gear from the resellers that are putting their high demand items on Gunbroker. Like I said, I'm very surprised KAC has not slapped them. Same. Fuck those guys. Cheers |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 5:08:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bkbz: You mean you can find *additional* IWS lowers for under 1400. I’m willing to bet you have at least 1 in your possession. Dumb question, but what does IWS stand for? |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 5:18:53 PM EST
[#18]
Integrated Weapon System
Since we are adding > Excellent vendor is Weapon Outfitters |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 5:50:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EnduroKid: I'm going to make a point of NOT buying any KAC gear from the resellers that are putting their high demand items on Gunbroker. Like I said, I'm very surprised KAC has not slapped them. You’ll find there’s many. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 6:01:03 PM EST
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I thought the # of KAC direct dealers was less than 10. Seems there are a lot more than I was aware of.
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Posted: 3/20/2021 7:37:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 762AR25: I thought the # of KAC direct dealers was less than 10. Seems there are a lot more than I was aware of. Go check the dealers section of KAC’s website...there are probably around 40 or so. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 8:22:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: EnduroKid]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By themissinglink: You’ll find there’s many. Serious question.. Why isn't KAC cracking down on these authorized dealers reselling on Gunbroker for triple ? Shit, if KAC is letting them do that, KAC themselves should just start making Gunbroker auctions, there isn't really a difference. By not doing anything, they are condoning it, am I wrong ? Pull their dealer status and make them buy stuff from authorized resellers and then they can resell until they are broke. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 8:33:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: duckhook02]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EnduroKid: Serious question.. Why isn't KAC cracking down on these authorized dealers reselling on Gunbroker for triple ? Shit, if KAC is letting them do that, KAC themselves should just start making Gunbroker auctions, there isn't really a difference. By not doing anything, they are condoning it, am I wrong ? Pull their dealer status and make them buy stuff from authorized resellers and then they can resell until they are broke. I suspect they have enough going on as is with trying to meet current demand, filling commercial backorders, managing military contracts, and doing all the R&D they are known for. The current status is a bubble that will pass...and so it's probably not worth their time/effort to try to weed out a few dealers who prefer GB. Plus, who knows if dealers have to sign some contract with KAC saying they will sell only at MSRP? |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 8:34:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: EnduroKid]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By duckhook02: I suspect they have enough going on as is with trying to meet current demand, filling commercial backorders, filling military contracts, and doing all the R&D they are known for. One guy with internet access can take care of it in less than 2 hours, at the most. Customers are more important than the dealers. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 8:41:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EnduroKid: One guy with internet access can take care of it in less than 2 hours, at the most. I for one, want KAC to focus on the things above (R&D, filling orders, etc.) As consumers, we have the ability to take our business elsewhere and potentially impact these dealers more during "normal" times. Let's keep in mind that at the end of the day, these handful of dealers are only getting a very small amount of in demand items. So the 2-3 CQB rifles, suppressors, etc. that they are selling on GB wouldn't put a dent in the overall current demand anyway. Again, I'm not a fan of these dealers doing it...but overall it isn't having any noticeable impact on getting products in consumers hands at retail prices. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 8:55:32 PM EST
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While we're asking for shit I would like them to have more presence here again.
Seems more news gets posted here 2nd hand now with little from KAC directly. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 9:00:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By duckhook02: I for one, want KAC to focus on the things above (R&D, filling orders, etc.) As consumers, we have the ability to take our business elsewhere and potentially impact these dealers more during "normal" times. Let's keep in mind that at the end of the day, these handful of dealers are only getting a very small amount of in demand items. So the 2-3 CQB rifles, suppressors, etc. that they are selling on GB wouldn't put a dent in the overall current demand anyway. Again, I'm not a fan of these dealers doing it...but overall it isn't having any noticeable impact on getting products in consumers hands at retail prices. Agreed. If I were a business, I would not want a company to dictate how much I could sell a product for. I get MAP restrictions, and have no problem with those. Consumers should regulate pricing with their wallets. It is us, as consumers, who are encouraging this and it will continue until people say enough is enough. At that point, the bubble bursts and things go back to a relatively normal environment. In short, my opinion is I would prefer a free market approach. That said, I try to do my part and support Eric at PSD as much as possible as he continues to try to get guns and gun parts into the hands of folks who are going to use them. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 9:01:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 762AR25: While we're asking for shit I would like them to have more presence here again. Seems more news gets posted here 2nd hand now with little from KAC directly. Are you a member of any of the KAC Owner's Group pages on FB? A number of KAC employees are active there; although I believe those same folks are active here, so some info may be redundant. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 9:33:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WVUSIG: Are you a member of any of the KAC Owner's Group pages on FB? A number of KAC employees are active there; although I believe those same folks are active here, so some info may be redundant. I've never had a social media account. I joined this site because I had been lurking this subforum for the good KAC info. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 9:38:57 PM EST
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I don't think it's just the gun industry and consumers creating these conditions. Cost of all goods especially groceries are sky rocketing. The buying power of the dollar is crashing. People are going to do what they can to balance the scales and that means selling commodities at a net gain. For others it means buying stuff new to flip. I don't think it's going to slow until the general cost of living comes back down and people go back to work, then we'll wait for supply to outpace demand and then the bubble will burst. It will happen but who knows when.
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Posted: 3/20/2021 9:56:18 PM EST
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Nobody would have a problem with a KAC dealer selling their product on GB auctions during normal times for less than MSRP - so why are people so bent out of shape if those same dealers use the same method during crazy busy times?
In fact, I would argue it’s the most fair way to handle it with all of the crazy demand. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 10:30:12 PM EST
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Lot of competing factors between KAC/Dealers/Customers/Flippers in the current market with huge demand, auctions, and waitlists I presume. Sure, some customers don’t like to see the scalping at high prices that will blacklist certain dealers to some here. In reality though, if all dealers sold strictly at MSRP then some could then chose to argue that certain customers have the inside track or special relationships with dealers. There’s always something to not like I guess is my point.
I also believe KAC is in an odd place with it all... these dealers write big checks, many have for years. They also own the inventory once they paid for it... perhaps KAC can’t or doesn't want to dictate to these dealers how to handle their business. Also auctions are weird in the sense that the buyers dictate the price, so that’s a weird dynamic that’s never quite influenced new retail products before like this. One big thing were missing here... I’m sure KAC is also in someways prideful their product commands the market premium it does. It’s funny the Rolex market has been experiencing this the last several years. Authorized dealers will bash the gray market dealers and “resellers” and Rolex is rumored to be enforcing actions against ADs that sell to flippers, tracking serial numbers etc, but I suspect Rolex truly don’t give a shit. in fact this secondary market boom has basically pre-sold their inventory at full retail profits for the next 2 years. Not saying this KACs approach, but I’m guessing a few idiots that pay $4k for a lower and $6k some FDE painted special editions aren’t gonna cause them any real heartburn |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 10:52:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bkbz: Nobody would have a problem with a KAC dealer selling their product on GB auctions during normal times for less than MSRP - so why are people so bent out of shape if those same dealers use the same method during crazy busy times? In fact, I would argue it’s the most fair way to handle it with all of the crazy demand. It's an interesting question isn't it. The consumers only want pricing enforcement on dealers when it is over MSRP, but when all these dealers offer coupon codes, and advertise under MAP guess who gets the short end of the stick? At the end of the day I don't fault these dealers because we can't get the same inventory levels, and maintain the same revenue and profit margins if we can't get inventory. It reminds me a lot of the allocated bourbon market. We really appreciate the kind words and support from you all. I seriously can't express that enough. I wish we could get satisfy the demand, but we will continue helping where we can. |
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Posted: 3/20/2021 11:20:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: batfurbabies02]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bkbz: Nobody would have a problem with a KAC dealer selling their product on GB auctions during normal times for less than MSRP - so why are people so bent out of shape if those same dealers use the same method during crazy busy times? In fact, I would argue it’s the most fair way to handle it with all of the crazy demand.  This is reasonable. Dealers were sitting on inventory 24 months ago - why not buy then? I'd argue mistiming of the market is fault of the individual... |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 12:59:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: fivepointoh]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buddyhoohaw: Same. Fuck those guys. Cheers Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buddyhoohaw: Originally Posted By EnduroKid: I'm going to make a point of NOT buying any KAC gear from the resellers that are putting their high demand items on Gunbroker. Like I said, I'm very surprised KAC has not slapped them. Same. Fuck those guys. Cheers ETA: More power to him I suppose. If people are stupid enough to buy at inflated prices for stuff you can get at awesome vendors such as PSD or RD, then their loss. |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 1:42:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: Embittered]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EnduroKid: One guy with internet access can take care of it in less than 2 hours, at the most. Customers are more important than the dealers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EnduroKid: One guy with internet access can take care of it in less than 2 hours, at the most. Customers are more important than the dealers. KAC's customers are the dealers and the government entities. Commercial end-users are *not* customers. Originally Posted By batfurbabies02: This is reasonable. Dealers were sitting on inventory 24 months ago - why not buy then? I'd argue mistiming of the market is fault of the individual... I dunno, how many more SR-30 uppers you have left to scalp? |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 10:06:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PresampleDepot: It's an interesting question isn't it. The consumers only want pricing enforcement on dealers when it is over MSRP, but when all these dealers offer coupon codes, and advertise under MAP guess who gets the short end of the stick? At the end of the day I don't fault these dealers because we can't get the same inventory levels, and maintain the same revenue and profit margins if we can't get inventory. It reminds me a lot of the allocated bourbon market. We really appreciate the kind words and support from you all. I seriously can't express that enough. I wish we could get satisfy the demand, but we will continue helping where we can. Good perspective. |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 10:36:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fivepointoh: One of them seems absent from this thread. I mean his pics are always amazing of the gear but it is comical watching him sell on GB at way over list price for items that are currently in stock. ETA: More power to him I suppose. If people are stupid enough to buy at inflated prices for stuff you can get at awesome vendors such as PSD or RD, then their loss. Not forgetting Operation Parts. |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 11:05:34 AM EST
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I took a class that Jack Leuba taught that Eric from Presample Depot was in. That was when I first met him. I think he was just starting out. Very pleasant guy and friendly. Answered all kinds of questions. Sol from Rooftop I met buying things from him right here. Long before Rooftop. Funny thing is the guy always had great deals. I remember him for that. These two guys are all about guns and KAC. I always check them first for anything I might look for. I’ve bought many things from Bernie at B3. MK11 & M110 cans. NT4 can. Scopes. He also got me foam for my m110 kit back before you could find kits for sale. His prices are always high. But personally I have no complaints. No one has mentioned Dennis Todd. I have spent 10-15k at a time with him. I’ve never seen him raise his prices due to lack of supply. He is solid in my book.
I do not agree with squeezing every last dollar out of the market just because you can. I run an auto repair shop in Austin. When you come to me my price is the same wether I have 20 cars in the shop or 2. I do not vary my prices by demand so I just can’t get behind that. How would my customers feel if I called 10 of them and said whoever bids the highest can be first in line to get their car fixed?? I’ll tell you how they would feel. I would not have customers which is what should happen in these cases. But it won’t. Anyone remember cheaper than dirt and $100.00 ea pmags in 2013? They are still going strong. |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 11:31:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By themissinglink: Not forgetting Operation Parts. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By themissinglink: Originally Posted By fivepointoh: One of them seems absent from this thread. I mean his pics are always amazing of the gear but it is comical watching him sell on GB at way over list price for items that are currently in stock. ETA: More power to him I suppose. If people are stupid enough to buy at inflated prices for stuff you can get at awesome vendors such as PSD or RD, then their loss. Not forgetting Operation Parts. |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 11:37:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: 762SR25]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg: I took a class that Jack Leuba taught that Eric from Presample Depot was in. That was when I first met him. I think he was just starting out. Very pleasant guy and friendly. Answered all kinds of questions. Sol from Rooftop I met buying things from him right here. Long before Rooftop. Funny thing is the guy always had great deals. I remember him for that. These two guys are all about guns and KAC. I always check them first for anything I might look for. I’ve bought many things from Bernie at B3. MK11 & M110 cans. NT4 can. Scopes. He also got me foam for my m110 kit back before you could find kits for sale. His prices are always high. But personally I have no complaints. No one has mentioned Dennis Todd. I have spent 10-15k at a time with him. I’ve never seen him raise his prices due to lack of supply. He is solid in my book. I do not agree with squeezing every last dollar out of the market just because you can. I run an auto repair shop in Austin. When you come to me my price is the same wether I have 20 cars in the shop or 2. I do not vary my prices by demand so I just can’t get behind that. How would my customers feel if I called 10 of them and said whoever bids the highest can be first in line to get their car fixed?? I’ll tell you how they would feel. I would not have customers which is what should happen in these cases. But it won’t. Anyone remember cheaper than dirt and $100.00 ea pmags in 2013? They are still going strong. Is PSD pretty new? If not for this forum I'd have never heard of him until I got a recommendation to get my muzzle device on my SR-25 swapped out there. Hope to do more in the future. I guess I'm still stuck in the past, Ayan at Boltcarrier was my first go-to with Operation Parts as a back-up (well, in more recent times since KAC has sold rifles to the public. But waaay back in the day when you could just get rails I used to get them there) and then I discovered Kelly Enterprises too. Until the recent times with people posting here I'd never heard of Rooftop Defense either but now I'm signed up there as well. I actually have a KAC dealer 2 miles from my house but they never seem to have any inventory. The last time I got a can from them it didn't even come from KAC, they got it from RSR. |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 4:06:59 PM EST
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Thoroughbred Armament has also been good to me.
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Posted: 3/21/2021 5:14:20 PM EST
[#43]
I don't know if people are missing this but this thing has a mams, chrome bolt, and a sandcutter and its basically even in price with the stock 14.5
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/895134539 |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 5:46:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tactical_Bucket: I don't know if people are missing this but this thing has a mams, chrome bolt, and a sandcutter and its basically even in price with the stock 14.5 https://www.gunbroker.com/item/895134539 I was watching. I have it a couple hits, but I’m out. |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 5:50:29 PM EST
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i caved and bought an overpriced sandcutter off someone :( still looking for an sr15 ambi charging handle and an sr25 collapsible stock kit.
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Posted: 3/21/2021 6:21:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jake2212: i caved and bought an overpriced sandcutter off someone :( still looking for an sr15 ambi charging handle and an sr25 collapsible stock kit. Anecdotally, there appears to be high demand for the CH. Hopefully we see another batch soon. |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 6:22:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By batfurbabies02: Anecdotally, there appears to be high demand for the CH. Hopefully we see another batch soon. It’s crazy, I can’t even find any for sale even overpriced. It’s crazy |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 6:23:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tactical_Bucket: I don't know if people are missing this but this thing has a mams, chrome bolt, and a sandcutter and its basically even in price with the stock 14.5 https://www.gunbroker.com/item/895134539 More than I would spend on a CQB upper but given the shenanigans with sellers trying to pass fake KAC stuff, you have to respect the seller's honesty in that listing. |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 6:24:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jake2212: It’s crazy, I can’t even find any for sale even overpriced. It’s crazy Haha, same here. Pretty sure majority of ambi CH went to fulfill government contract(s). What's the difference between LMT ambi CH and KAC ambi CH? Looks very similar to the naked (untrained) eye... |
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Posted: 3/21/2021 6:25:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WVUSIG: More than I would spend on a CQB upper but given the shenanigans with sellers trying to pass fake KAC stuff, you have to respect the seller's honesty in that listing. Can you please educate? Sellers are trying to sell fake KAC? |
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