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Experiment - slow mo video of AUG firing sequence. AUG firing cycle Be sure to hit the setting gear button, and run it at 0.25 speed, and at max resolution. Observe the gas port ejection flash as well View Quote |
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Great video since I shoot mine as opposed to watching other people shoot it. Or I'm trying to spotfor them.
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Bags under the stock at trigger guard, not under the folded grip?
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question. Are you really shooting a 25m zeroing target at 200 yds? The aim point must be teeny tiny
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10/23/2018 update: Fired 110 rounds. No failures of any kind. All 55 gr ball ammo.
Gun ran great. Tested out a new PMag AUG mag, which ran well also. Total round count: 5,215 |
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11/25/2018 update: Fired 50 rounds. No failures of any kind.
Reliability remains as strong as ever, though accuracy does not appear to be improving. Wolf Gold tests (which I use as benchmark for this gun) show 2 - 2.5 MOA results now. Serviceable, but my Middy M4 with 6,714 rounds is more accurate. I wonder if a new barrel will improve AUG accuracy. Was hoping to see a 1/8 or 1/7 offering from Steyr in 18 or 20", at black friday sale pricing... but no. Total round count: 5,265 |
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12/2/2018 update: Fired 145 rounds. No failures of any kind.
Short-range 3-gun match this weekend. Just watched Die Hard again while doing Christmas decorations - so HAD to take the AUG! And it shot very well. Runs like a champ. Total round count: 5,410 |
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1/29/2019 update
No rounds fired in a bit (other projects); but am trying to work on getting one of those Corvo Defense shell deflectors. If successful, then will do some experiments with off-set holo-sights, for CQB type of shooting. |
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2/2/2019 update: Fired 15 rounds. No failures of any kind.
Tested some 69 SMK and 55 gr loads to check zero. AUG performance was decent, but not stellar. 69 gr ammo was close to 3 MOA, but OK. Total round count: 5,425 |
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2/3/2019 update: Fired 105 rounds. No failures of any kind. (223 rounds of 9mm this run)
Fired the AUG at an open-field 3-gun match today. Default zero with the 69 gr Sierra Match King ammo in it was dialed in at 200 yards. Stage 2: pistol and rifle: close range. Shot at 100 yards at gongs, and paper close. 3X was a little strong for the 10 yard paper target quick acquisition, but gun did well. Stage 3: Pistol only run. Stage 4: Pistol on a Texas Star. Then take the AUG and shoot at steel gongs out to 510 yards from inside a school bus (because that's how they do things at this 3-gun range). What worked well was to add 6 more clicks on the scope, which took the zero up to 400 yards (with this ammo). Based on prior testing (recorded in this thread), knew that 1 click =0.86 MOA (1/4 MIL). So was able to click it up with confidence prior to the run. And then ran a ballistic calculator in the field. So knew to just hold right below the target bottom at the <200 yard targets. And hold about 2' high at the 510 yard target. Worked very well. Stage 5: John Whick Stage (took off the +6 clicks, returning the rifle to a 200 yard zero; which is also the 50 yard zero) - run through a 100' long ditch shooting targets on both sides close-range paper while running, with pistol, then engage steel in a bay across the way where the ditch opens up. The barrel dump the pistol, run over to another 100'x100' bay, pull the pre-loaded AUG out, and shoot at about a dozen steel targets hidden behind various barriers. Stage 1: rifle-only stage out to 510 yards, with stand&shoot targets at 100 yards or so, then drop down onto the mat and shoot a string of 6 more large targets. So on this one, dialed in +6 again before starting, and ran it similar to how Stage 4 was run. This string ran great - very fun run. Overall, AUG shot very well, and knocked the heck out of a lot of gongs going out pretty far. Total round count: 5,530 |
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great thread friends. keep up good work.
looking at an aug myself. want the anniversary a1 as a collector, but an a3 flat top with an acog or steiner would be much more fun. |
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2/12/2019 update: Fired 10 rounds. No failures of any kind.
Just a quick 10 rounds to test out the new Corvo Defense Shell Deflector, and my test-of-concept pistol red-dot, mounted on the side of the optic. The concept is to be able to do a slight 30 degree rotation of the AUG, and the heads-up is perfectly aligned that way. Historically that's a no-go, because the ejection port is in your face. The Corvo Defense shell deflector is a relatively handsome and lower profile add-on, that my hope was, would allow me to do this heads-up holographic red-dot concept after-all. Results were... not bad. Jury is still out. On a side note, the Shell deflector is pretty darned expensive - for a shell deflector; but it's also a pretty high quality piece of precision machined kit, and worked well. I bought mine used at just: "gosh that seems like a lot", pricing, So, I didn't get any instructions. Upon install, I saw that the arms were bowed at first, which I'm guessing meant I had the screws too tight, so I loosened them until the arms went straight again, and it seemed to still stay-put just fine. And it does look good. In application, the concept did work, but with a couple quirks. -The first one, is you can't really wear a hat with this, because the ejected shells hit your hat bill, and fall back onto the gun. They don't jam, as the bolt is long since cycled back closed, but it's probably not a good thing. OK, that's... manageable. -The other quirk is you have to turtle your head back a bit more than you might otherwise, to really clear the ejection port and shell deflector. It's doable, but not quite as comfortable as I'd like. It's not quite in the "forget this" category either though. -The final quirk is the mounting point on the side of the 3X picatiny railed integrated scope, is kind of far forward. Meaning there's a fairly small window that you can hold your head and still see the red-dot. It works, but will take a bit of training, and I think a larger-window red-dot holographic sight might be better. It's a balance though, as the point is a leave-it-mounted small as possible little pistol red-dot mounted on the side of the scope. So going bigger might undermine that. If the mounting point were further back, you'd have a bigger zone for your eye to be in, and it to still work. So... I think the jury is still out on this concept. I'm leaning towards liking it, and I'm not saying no-good, but I'm not ready to launch the fireworks just yet either. When I get the chance, I'll take out a few hundred rounds and give this a more extensive exploration. And of course, the gun is now up to 5500 rounds, and still runs extremely reliable. Total round count: 5,540 |
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You might want to put a little locktite on the tightening screws. Mine worked lose after 300rds.
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Well you guys did it. Just ordered a Steyr Anniversary Edition.
paying my card statement in a few weeks is gonna be fun but at least I will get 1% cash back. Where is the cheapest place to get steyr magazines? |
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Well you guys did it. Just ordered a Steyr Anniversary Edition. paying my card statement in a few weeks is gonna be fun but at least I will get 1% cash back. Where is the cheapest place to get steyr magazines? View Quote |
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Though I am not the OP, if you'd like to know; I run AUG type P Mags exclusively though my AUG and I love them.
I've left them loaded for month at a time. I've run a gamut of ammo brands (all brass case) through them. I can smack them upon insertion without having the top round pop out. My experience with them has been extremely positive. I reallllllllly like them. |
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I have been thinking about picking a few of them up. I have plenty of factory mags but wanted to try the AUG Pmags. Do they come with a dustcover like the AR mags do? |
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^^^^ I have been thinking about picking a few of them up. I have plenty of factory mags but wanted to try the AUG Pmags. Do they come with a dustcover like the AR mags do? View Quote |
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Quoted: AUG Pmags do not have a dustcover. I have a couple Magpul AUG mags and I like them. AUG factory mags are sexy looking but can be slippery mofos to handle compared to Pmags. View Quote That being said, if you just insert an AUG mag without smacking it, they are smoooooooth as silk. I am rough on my gear so I prefer the P MAGS. Strictly a personal preference. |
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2/22/2019 update: Fired 100 rounds. Several jams (now corrected)
Using the Corvo Defense Shell deflector, and a green laser mounted on the receiver side-rail this outing. Neither did very well today. almost every 5th round bounced off the shell deflector, back into the gun, and jammed up pretty hard. It then came loose, which I was warned it easily does. Not too impressed with this system. I did this with some random ammo and using the laser, so not shouldering, but instead fired it via hanging from the sling. So, switched ammo, and fired shouldered, still jammed; it's the shell deflector. Which also came loose. That might be a factor, but I kind of don't care, this is not as hardy a system as I was hoping, as it easily came loose. Took it off and rapid fired a mag (PMag), which ran tip-top. Raining a stream of brass out no problem. As to the laser, I'm finding that a laser which is mounted on that receiver rail, seems to lose zero when it gets hot there - and it gets hot there. My red laser did, and now the green laser does too. Also, I think the heat may harm the batteries, which might be swelling; I'm not sure this is a good mounting spot for a laser. Or at least, not a good spot for a cheap little laser with little batteries. I do think a laser maybe can work, but at this point I think it needs to be a large and serious laser, on a QD mount, so that it can just be removed when not in use. Also, I'm not sure if the laser is what is losing zero upon heating, or if the rail itself is moving when that part gets hot, so some more testing there might be needed. Also, ran one of my MagPul AUG PMags. They feed well (when the Corvo Defense shell deflector doesn't bounce a casing right back into it). BUT, for some reason the bolt-release button seemed to be more difficult to depress with the PMag, than the AUG mag. swapped out mags a few times back and forth, and yea, the PMag seems to make it harder to operate the bolt-release button at times. Never noticed that before. All in all the gun runs 100% and the integrated optic holds zero very well. But various "improvements" like the shell deflector, laser, and even the PMag, didn't really shine today. Which cascades to the holo-sight concept being spotty, since that needs a shell-deflector to work the way I want it set up. As it stands, yanked off the shell deflector and the holo-sight, and not sure what I'll do about the laser just yet. Total round count: 5,640 |
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Try mounting the laser on the rail that's on the side of the optic housing
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2/22/2019 update: Fired 100 rounds. Several jams (now corrected) Using the Corvo Defense Shell deflector, and a green laser mounted on the receiver side-rail this outing. Neither did very well today. almost every 5th round bounced off the shell deflector, back into the gun, and jammed up pretty hard. It then came loose, which I was warned it easily does. Not too impressed with this system. I did this with some random ammo and using the laser, so not shouldering, but instead fired it via hanging from the sling. So, switched ammo, and fired shouldered, still jammed; it's the shell deflector. Which also came loose. That might be a factor, but I kind of don't care, this is not as hardy a system as I was hoping, as it easily came loose. Took it off and rapid fired a mag (PMag), which ran tip-top. Raining a stream of brass out no problem. As to the laser, I'm finding that a laser which is mounted on that receiver rail, seems to lose zero when it gets hot there - and it gets hot there. My red laser did, and now the green laser does too. Also, I think the heat may harm the batteries, which might be swelling; I'm not sure this is a good mounting spot for a laser. Or at least, not a good spot for a cheap little laser with little batteries. I do think a laser maybe can work, but at this point I think it needs to be a large and serious laser, on a QD mount, so that it can just be removed when not in use. Also, I'm not sure if the laser is what is losing zero upon heating, or if the rail itself is moving when that part gets hot, so some more testing there might be needed. Also, ran one of my MagPul AUG PMags. They feed well (when the Corvo Defense shell deflector doesn't bounce a casing right back into it). BUT, for some reason the bolt-release button seemed to be more difficult to depress with the PMag, than the AUG mag. swapped out mags a few times back and forth, and yea, the PMag seems to make it harder to operate the bolt-release button at times. Never noticed that before. All in all the gun runs 100% and the integrated optic holds zero very well. But various "improvements" like the shell deflector, laser, and even the PMag, didn't really shine today. Which cascades to the holo-sight concept being spotty, since that needs a shell-deflector to work the way I want it set up. As it stands, yanked off the shell deflector and the holo-sight, and not sure what I'll do about the laser just yet. Total round count: 5,640 View Quote |
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Repeating the same advice: blue loctite on properly tightened screws will fix your Corvus Defensio shell deflector problem. Mine has been working without issue using this method.
I haven't noticed the bolt release being harder to use with Pmags but I'm mostly a charging handle guy due to shooting HK roller clones. I'll take a look at it the next time it's out of the safe. |
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Thanks again for this thread lazy! Took my anniversary edition AUG out today. It was absolutely fantastic and exceeded my expectations in about every regard. Accuracy is superb.
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-The final quirk is the mounting point on the side of the 3X picatiny railed integrated scope, is kind of far forward. Meaning there's a fairly small window that you can hold your head and still see the red-dot. It works, but will take a bit of training, and I think a larger-window red-dot holographic sight might be better. It's a balance though, as the point is a leave-it-mounted small as possible little pistol red-dot mounted on the side of the scope. So going bigger might undermine that. If the mounting point were further back, you'd have a bigger zone for your eye to be in, and it to still work. View Quote With the shell deflector, don't have any issues with brass using the cant method. However, when I use my suppressor I get a bit of gas to the face, which is unpleasant but bearable. The chin weld method doesn't have this issue. I've put probably 250 rounds through the system with this setup and haven't had any issues with the shell deflector coming loose. I also just installed the Corvus enhanced mag release. I haven't made it to the range yet, but doing mag drills it has really sped up my reload speed. I can now do a kind of upward karate chop to the mag release and grab a fresh mag while the old one falls free. Don't give up on the she'll deflector and red dot, it's a good combination. |
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Thank you for all of your work, Lazy. ( LOL...that sounded hilarious in my brain ) I think this is one of the most definitive AUG threads out there.
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I was told Steyr had plans for a 6.5 Grendel AUG back in 2008, by someone who was a Steyr rep that saw it personally on one of their computers.
I would love an AUG in 6.5 Grendel with Steyr-built AUG Grendel mags. You won't wear out a barrel in 2 years either since chamber pressure is way less than 5.56 NATO. Biggest challenges with the AUG are the trigger and accuracy with a quick-change barrel system. |
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No updates, just an add to prevent this from going to archive. Of late, I've been focusing on 6.5 Creedmoor and 6.5 Grendel projects; and haven't had chance to shoot the AUG much. I will say, a 6.5 Grendel AUG would be the best BESTEST bestie, of all time.
That said, my confidence in Steyr unass'ing and engaging in any sort of development project this decade, isn't really there. |
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Intend to take it out to a longer range gong-range this week. Will update
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I see you have the 20/20 trigger mod - have you tried the Neu Trigger? I'm trying to decide which to do to try to improve my AUG trigger somewhat.
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I see you have the 20/20 trigger mod - have you tried the Neu Trigger? I'm trying to decide which to do to try to improve my AUG trigger somewhat. View Quote |
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Quoted: The neu trigger will give you something better than what you have, but the 2020 TSM will substantially transform the trigger into something great. It's worth the extra money. I've been using one since 9/2013. If there's only one modification to do to the AUG, it's the 2020 TSM. View Quote |
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Whoa - nice. That's a ringing endorsement. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: The neu trigger will give you something better than what you have, but the 2020 TSM will substantially transform the trigger into something great. It's worth the extra money. I've been using one since 9/2013. If there's only one modification to do to the AUG, it's the 2020 TSM. |
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Interesting numbers. What velocities were you using for the Mk318 mod 1 and 69gr smk?
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Haven't shot it in a while (that and also updating my bookmarks and tags; as I'm going let TEAM slide this year; and I really do need to trim out my subscribe list as it's a mess!).
I did pick up a cheap heavy duty green laser; that's too large to leave mounted, but should work daytime (should). Going to change philosophy of approach - will not leave the laser on, but mount it when usage seems appropriate (and will have time, preparations, and gumption to do so). One can just "zero" the laser manually using the already zero'd optics, with an offset, which is my plan. |
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Using blue-loctite, reinstalled the Corvo shell defelector in the ejection port. Hope it works better this time (it came loose last time and bounced casings back into the port, inducing jams).
Took apart the cheap $20 green laser and tightened everything up; will try it again to see if it holds zero under recoil better. |
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