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Originally Posted By tommytrauma: Originally Posted By iNuhBaDNayburhood: Well, I would have to agree with this... However, I tend to blur the line between an IFAK, and a BOK... My IFAK has one medium size first aid kit, which is your basic boo-boo kit... I originally tried to keep the more 'serious' blow-out kit items separate. Instead, these days I keep the boo-boo kit separate, in a far back pocket, and the more serious BOK items up front and quickly accessible. I only keep the BOK and IFAK items that I know how to use... I took limited training in trauma / gsw stuff, but certainly NEED to have more training! As such, I don't have an NPA and some other items I've not trained with yet, but will add them as I learn to use them. I think wound pressure is highly under-rated and emphasized in some training courses. I keep Olaes bandages, quick-clot combat gauze, shears, tape, tourniquet, hemostat, and some other items, but I'm a huge fan of the Olaes bandages. They're pretty fast & convenient. What do you guys think about mixing the purposes into one larger all-purpose med pouch??? I specifically keep the boo-boo first aid stuff in the back pocket in a separate zippered bag. When my tri-fold detachable med pouch is opened, the first three layers of the tri-fold are more important trauma care items, light stick, etc... Then I have to dig out the separate boo-boo kit. I figure if I just have a light boo boo I have time to dig it out. If myself or a friend is seriously wounded/injured I have the more important medical items up front and quickly accessible. Thanks for the great information in this thread! I'm learning a lot more about prioritizing and placement here! Coming to Urban tactics this summer? We'll be going through all the popular BOK adjuncts.I'll bring Ed the head and give you some practice in placing a nasal airway, as well as occlusive dressings, tourniquet use, yadda yadda. If you're not making UT, we can set up a meet there or here sometime this spring / summer. Maybe we can schedule it alongside a food pantry trip - I need to get in on that. I really, really favor a dedicated kit for major trauma. Streamlining immediate interventions pays huge dividends when you're doing stuff like that under pressure and time constraints. In my personal gear, I've ended up with a blow out kit, and a second pouch that started out as an IFAK, but morphed into a comfort kit, with sun block, wet wipes and sich as well as first aid stuff. The "big kit" is third line or vehicle. i do not want to be digging past my chap stick and band aids to get to a pressure dressing or TQ. YMMV. Your separate pocket solution is the closest I'd want to a combined kit. it can be a pain telling blood from water from piss from cerebrospinal fluid under colored lights. tactical situation permitting, a white light makes patient assessment much easier. Thanks for the great advice, TommyT!  I've taken a few more steps toward rectifying my BOK / IFAK setups, and once I've better narrowed down what I should have in my kits, I'll start to replicate it and have multiples in various parts of my gear. My primary kit I'm working on is for the plate carrier, but I also want one in my BoB, one on my ALICE LBE kit, one in a low-profile nylon pouch I can move from one BDU / Cargo pants pocket to another, etc. I want to take the Urban Tactics this year, but I'm sure convincing the wife for the expenditure of funds for more UT training will be difficult. My wife seems to think I know all there is to know about guns / tactics, but she doesn't realize I need more medical training - and really SHE should get some medical training too! I'll try to get us both into UT this year, but it might be good to do a food pantry trip... It would be great for us BOTH to get a more Medical oriented training opportunity. I've already taken a basic Red Cross training thing, but that sucked. It was more training for basic boo-boo care.  Hell, I know about 6 to 10 guys that would be quite interested in taking additional medical training - even if it's 'Unofficial' and taught by an experienced person in their profession. I'm hopefully soon going to have a food pantry trip scheduled in early April... I'm going to hopefully organize my gear to each have both a substantial blow-out kit, and a separate comfort-first-aid kit (moleskin, bug spray, sun lotion, OTC medications, aloe, etc... My present BOK now has: QuickClot Combat Gauze, Tourniquet, OLAES 6" bandage, CINCH-Tight Bandage, Glow Stick, LED Flashlight (new addition  , Thanks!), Shears, Hemostat, Medical Tape, a few intra-muscular syringes (not sure why, but may be useful for drainage or something), regular gauze, etc... Are there any other things you think I should add? Anything for treating concussions / blunt trauma injury? A compact splint perhaps?Also, a Quick question - I know there's a lime's disease booster for DOGS, do they make such an injection for Humans? I have lots of land in grassland areas and ticks are a major concern! Thanks for your invaluable advice, TommyT!  |
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There's one that is attached by wires that are threaded alternatively between the platform and the pouch. I don't remember what it's called or who sells it, but it's a lot quieter than velcro. Hopefully someone else on here will know what I'm talking about.
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Tactical Tailor makes one, which is one column wider than the NAR
http://www.tacticaltailor.com/pouches/modular/tear-away-panel and Diamondback Tactical makes the one that the poster mentioned above me. couldnt find a link for it, and they are hard to come by since DBT is no longer producing nylon. ETA: or sell the FR-1 and get the maxped FIGHT pouch, which is similiar to the FR-1 but also comes with its own tear away panel, or ATS makes one that comes with a tear away, but is a tad smaller. |
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There's also the Jones Tactical Tear Away Panel
Though again, it's velcro. If you're not dead set on using the Maxpedition FR-1, there are several other manufacturers that have rip away med kits - ATS, OSOE, Tyr, CTOMS, Specter, Condor, etc. Though most of them still use velcro as the mounting solution. One notable exception is the Mojo series from CMS. ~Bill |
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Originally Posted By Mystickal:
There's one that is attached by wires that are threaded alternatively between the platform and the pouch. I don't remember what it's called or who sells it, but it's a lot quieter than velcro. Hopefully someone else on here will know what I'm talking about. ~Bill If you find yourself needing to tear your medical pouch from your gear, you probably don't need to be super quiet. |
I really like the Blue Force Gear med pouch. Its a one handed operation, and you dont have to deal with zippers.
List of contents: 1x Rescue Cutter (came with my Gerber LMF knife) 1x NAR Trauma Shears 2x Gloves 1x SWAT-T Tourniquet 1x H&H Compressed Gauze 1x Quik Clot Combat Gauze 1x Petrolatum Gauze 3x9" 1x Izzy Bandage 1x Roll of Duck Tape 2x Halo Chest Seal 1x NAR Needle Decompression (14 gauge x 3.25 in.) 1x Nasopharyngeal Airway with Lube |
Minor resurrection here. I have a HSGI mini EOD pouch that I keep on the back of my molle belt, but I am considering going with something that can be removed/accessed more easily. So far, the OSOE compact tear-off IFAK, BFG TKN, and First Spear med pouch are grabbing my interest... thoughts?
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Originally Posted By FMD:
Originally Posted By Custom-X_Sponjah:
Originally Posted By Backstop:
What are you planning on doing with those 3.25 and 5.25 caths? Just curious. Not my kit.. I ganked the pics out of the thread linked above my post... I think I read something about chest decompression during TENSION PNEUMOTHORAX... But again.. I have no Idea... This is the answer (that no one likes to talk about). For those who are going to cry about it,  here's the disclaimer:
DO NOT perform invasive procedures that are above your training, certification, and/or expertise. The caths in my kit are for qualified medics to use on me should the necessity arise. If you want to needle chests, go to med school. Ill cry about it. if you try this and you do n'tknow what your doing, your going to kill yourself and its going to be incredibly painful on the way out. act accordingly 
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Originally Posted By Mystickal:
There's one that is attached by wires that are threaded alternatively between the platform and the pouch. I don't remember what it's called or who sells it, but it's a lot quieter than velcro. Hopefully someone else on here will know what I'm talking about. ~Bill Molle Stix might be what you're thinking of, sold by ITS Tactical and maybe others. http://www.itstactical.com/store/molle-stix-pair-coyote-brown/ |
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Originally Posted By Blacktide:
Anybody know of a good ultra flat med pouch? http://www.skdtac.com/S-O-Tech-VIPER-Flat-IFAK-p/sot.102.htm 
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| I have not taken time to read all post yet... I have seen some pictures that cause concern for me. I am a Firefighter/First Responder and I know what I can and cant do. All I want to say is that if you are not trained do not attempt to do more than you can safely do. If you are trained do not go above and beyond of what you are trained to do. I have seen some ALS gear in the pictures please use caution because you can do more harm than good if you do not use it properly. |
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Originally Posted By westwardbound:
Originally Posted By Blacktide:
Anybody know of a good ultra flat med pouch? http://www.skdtac.com/S-O-Tech-VIPER-Flat-IFAK-p/sot.102.htm Looks perfect.. but $85 for an empty pouch is a bit much. |
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Originally Posted By BUIS:
Originally Posted By Mystickal:
There's one that is attached by wires that are threaded alternatively between the platform and the pouch. I don't remember what it's called or who sells it, but it's a lot quieter than velcro. Hopefully someone else on here will know what I'm talking about. ~Bill Molle Stix might be what you're thinking of, sold by ITS Tactical and maybe others. http://www.itstactical.com/store/molle-stix-pair-coyote-brown/ No, it's integrated into the pouch. It used to be made by DBT, you can find them now and again on fleabay. ~Bill |
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Originally Posted By osha:
Minor resurrection here. I have a HSGI mini EOD pouch that I keep on the back of my molle belt, but I am considering going with something that can be removed/accessed more easily. So far, the OSOE compact tear-off IFAK, BFG TKN, and First Spear med pouch are grabbing my interest... thoughts? Nobody? |
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Originally Posted By osha:
Originally Posted By osha:
Minor resurrection here. I have a HSGI mini EOD pouch that I keep on the back of my molle belt, but I am considering going with something that can be removed/accessed more easily. So far, the OSOE compact tear-off IFAK, BFG TKN, and First Spear med pouch are grabbing my interest... thoughts? Nobody? The ATS is nice. All of these options are kind of bulky for the rear of a belt. It doesn't tear off, but I use one of these TT pouches as an IFAK on the rear of my belt. 
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Originally Posted By osha:
Minor resurrection here. I have a HSGI mini EOD pouch that I keep on the back of my molle belt, but I am considering going with something that can be removed/accessed more easily. So far, the OSOE compact tear-off IFAK, BFG TKN, and First Spear med pouch are grabbing my interest... thoughts? http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k49/Poopstania/Tactical%20Gear/102_0504.jpg Take this into consideration: Is there really a need for a tear-away panel on a belt when you can just as quickly take the belt off? |
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Originally Posted By lew:
Originally Posted By osha:
Minor resurrection here. I have a HSGI mini EOD pouch that I keep on the back of my molle belt, but I am considering going with something that can be removed/accessed more easily. So far, the OSOE compact tear-off IFAK, BFG TKN, and First Spear med pouch are grabbing my interest... thoughts? http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k49/Poopstania/Tactical%20Gear/102_0504.jpg Take this into consideration: Is there really a need for a tear-away panel on a belt when you can just as quickly take the belt off? The reason I think that a tear off pouch would be good would be in the situation that you are on the ground, so your weight is on the belt, making it hard, if not impossible, to take the whole thing off. |
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Originally Posted By osha:
Originally Posted By lew:
Originally Posted By osha:
Minor resurrection here. I have a HSGI mini EOD pouch that I keep on the back of my molle belt, but I am considering going with something that can be removed/accessed more easily. So far, the OSOE compact tear-off IFAK, BFG TKN, and First Spear med pouch are grabbing my interest... thoughts? http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k49/Poopstania/Tactical%20Gear/102_0504.jpg Take this into consideration: Is there really a need for a tear-away panel on a belt when you can just as quickly take the belt off? The reason I think that a tear off pouch would be good would be in the situation that you are on the ground, so your weight is on the belt, making it hard, if not impossible, to take the whole thing off. Yes I run the small tear away ATS IFAK pouch at about 5ocock on my belt and it's nice to be able to yank it off quick. |
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Originally Posted By osha:
Originally Posted By lew:
Originally Posted By osha:
Minor resurrection here. I have a HSGI mini EOD pouch that I keep on the back of my molle belt, but I am considering going with something that can be removed/accessed more easily. So far, the OSOE compact tear-off IFAK, BFG TKN, and First Spear med pouch are grabbing my interest... thoughts? http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k49/Poopstania/Tactical%20Gear/102_0504.jpg Take this into consideration: Is there really a need for a tear-away panel on a belt when you can just as quickly take the belt off? The reason I think that a tear off pouch would be good would be in the situation that you are on the ground, so your weight is on the belt, making it hard, if not impossible, to take the whole thing off. I have a TT med pouch mounted at 8 o'clock and it's easily accessible in any position, except, of course if I was laying directly on it, in which case a tear-way would hardly be of assistance. I've been flopping around on the floor for the last few weeks doing what I can in the house to put the belt through its paces and I don't foresee a problem with accessibility. Whatever makes ya happy, though.
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I can certainly reach the pouch, but the question is being able to see the supplies and pick out the right ones. With a tear off or removable insert med kit, it seems you can have it right in front of you to take you pick of which items you need, whereas with a general purpose pouch, you have to rely on your sense of touch if you can't get the belt off of you.
I'm not saying that your way won't work, I'm just illustrating my concerns as to why one would need a removable med pouch, which is why I want one over my current set up. |
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Originally Posted By osha:
I can certainly reach the pouch, but the question is being able to see the supplies and pick out the right ones. With a tear off or removable insert med kit, it seems you can have it right in front of you to take you pick of which items you need, whereas with a general purpose pouch, you have to rely on your sense of touch if you can't get the belt off of you. I'm not saying that your way won't work, I'm just illustrating my concerns as to why one would need a removable med pouch, which is why I want one over my current set up. I keep the med contents in a ziplock bag that can be easily removed. Not as high speed as my ATS, but it works just fine. |
A couple shots of my primary FLC's IFAK.
And some of my other medical gear, you can see more on the Official Medical Gear Thread 
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Originally Posted By johnny000000:
That's a cool looking North American Rescue Retractable Scissor Leash! It's a great accessory! Yes indeed. A Gear Keeper product. I have a bunch of them. lol |
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Originally Posted By Bayer:
Just got a Specter Gear tear away and its pretty damn nice. I have used many different med pouches over the years and the Specter is a good bang for your buck. Tear away pouches and those inserts you can purchase are the best bet in my opinion. You can get to the medical supplies without having to roll someone all over the place. Just remove the insert or the pouch from the person and begin care. |
| Does anyone here use thehttp://www.itstactical.com/store/its-eta-trauma-kit-pouch-multicam/? Seems pretty complete for the price. Looks big but cant tell. Anyone have some pics of it mounted to a plate carrier? |
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Originally Posted By pennsylvaniaboy:
Does anyone here use thehttp://www.itstactical.com/store/its-eta-trauma-kit-pouch-multicam/? Seems pretty complete for the price. Looks big but cant tell. Anyone have some pics of it mounted to a plate carrier? IDK but I like it from that video. |
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Using my NAR Tactical Operator Response Kit they provided during their own Operator/First Responder class:
Great class, by the way. I highly recommend it. I haven't had time to finish my AAR of it, and I feel bad because I took the class at the beginning of May, but improving my fitness and trying to search for a job now that I finished the academy is taking up all my spare time. Product link: NAR TORK - Tactical Operator Response Kit NAR Quick Detach Panel |
| I love when you treat someone under stress all your fine motor skill just go to shit. You can never open that package they way you always do and the tq takes longer than you think. On another note that I was taught and learned is never use both knees. Just be down on one. More mobility if something needs to be done quickly. |
Those kits actually have a pull cord coming out of the middle and it makes it insanely easy to open under stress. It still may of gone flying out of my hands AFTER I tore it off the velcro panel and pulled the rip cord though.  Your fine motor skills do go to shit in a hurry, but the instructor told us that was one of the best lanes he's ever seen and he wished we had screwed up on more stuff so he'd have something to critique. Not bad considering I had never met the guy I got teamed up with before that day.
Making us do security while trying to treat the guy was havoc. I did it every single time, and as a side note, carrying yourself and all your gear, plus the litter with the medical gear, the wounded guy, and all HIS shit too, is heavy. Those litters were nasty though, they work great. I'd buy one if I had the cash to spare and a place to put it in my patrol car trunk when I get hired and get on the road. I typically do better under stress. We did survival shooting at the gun range during the academy, which included 200 yard sprints and running up and down berms, doing pushups, jumping jacks, burpees, etc. and then shooting the course of fire from memory. I consistently shot higher than normal (45, 46, 44 were my survival shooting scores compared to 42, 40, 43 doing the typical stand and fire) with the added stress. Scenarios we came across during taser training and building searches I repeatedly scored high on too. When I got shot a few years ago over Thanksgiving weekend the deputies and medics that showed up to the scene were surprised at how calm I was considering I had a completely shattered arm and had been shot from about two feet away. Laughing (it was more grimacing, really) and making jokes about your own gunshot wound is kind of morbid to some people I guess 
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Originally Posted By floridahunter07:
Those kits actually have a pull cord coming out of the middle and it makes it insanely easy to open under stress. It still may of gone flying out of my hands AFTER I tore it off the velcro panel and pulled the rip cord though. Your fine motor skills do go to shit in a hurry, but the instructor told us that was one of the best lanes he's ever seen and he wished we had screwed up on more stuff so he'd have something to critique. Not bad considering I had never met the guy I got teamed up with before that day.
Making us do security while trying to treat the guy was havoc. I did it every single time, and as a side note, carrying yourself and all your gear, plus the litter with the medical gear, the wounded guy, and all HIS shit too, is heavy. Those litters were nasty though, they work great. I'd buy one if I had the cash to spare and a place to put it in my patrol car trunk when I get hired and get on the road. I typically do better under stress. We did survival shooting at the gun range during the academy, which included 200 yard sprints and running up and down berms, doing pushups, jumping jacks, burpees, etc. and then shooting the course of fire from memory. I consistently shot higher than normal (45, 46, 44 were my survival shooting scores compared to 42, 40, 43 doing the typical stand and fire) with the added stress. Scenarios we came across during taser training and building searches I repeatedly scored high on too. When I got shot a few years ago over Thanksgiving weekend the deputies and medics that showed up to the scene were surprised at how calm I was considering I had a completely shattered arm and had been shot from about two feet away. Laughing (it was more grimacing, really) and making jokes about your own gunshot wound is kind of morbid to some people I guess The single best piece of advice I got on being a combat medic was from a medic I knew. He was nominated for a Silver Star for what he did in Iraq. "As the medic, you have to be the Fonz. Always cool." |
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Originally Posted By Capt-Planet:
Originally Posted By floridahunter07:
Those kits actually have a pull cord coming out of the middle and it makes it insanely easy to open under stress. It still may of gone flying out of my hands AFTER I tore it off the velcro panel and pulled the rip cord though. Your fine motor skills do go to shit in a hurry, but the instructor told us that was one of the best lanes he's ever seen and he wished we had screwed up on more stuff so he'd have something to critique. Not bad considering I had never met the guy I got teamed up with before that day.
Making us do security while trying to treat the guy was havoc. I did it every single time, and as a side note, carrying yourself and all your gear, plus the litter with the medical gear, the wounded guy, and all HIS shit too, is heavy. Those litters were nasty though, they work great. I'd buy one if I had the cash to spare and a place to put it in my patrol car trunk when I get hired and get on the road. I typically do better under stress. We did survival shooting at the gun range during the academy, which included 200 yard sprints and running up and down berms, doing pushups, jumping jacks, burpees, etc. and then shooting the course of fire from memory. I consistently shot higher than normal (45, 46, 44 were my survival shooting scores compared to 42, 40, 43 doing the typical stand and fire) with the added stress. Scenarios we came across during taser training and building searches I repeatedly scored high on too. When I got shot a few years ago over Thanksgiving weekend the deputies and medics that showed up to the scene were surprised at how calm I was considering I had a completely shattered arm and had been shot from about two feet away. Laughing (it was more grimacing, really) and making jokes about your own gunshot wound is kind of morbid to some people I guess The single best piece of advice I got on being a combat medic was from a medic I knew. He was nominated for a Silver Star for what he did in Iraq. "As the medic, you have to be the Fonz. Always cool." One of the guys in my academy class was giving me advice on how to deal with my girlfriend and he told me to be the Fonz too. Whenever we passed each other outside of the classroom we were assigned to we'd give each other two thumbs up and go "AYYYYYYY"
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Originally Posted By tommytrauma:
Originally Posted By iNuhBaDNayburhood:
Originally Posted By sleepdr:
Well, I would have to agree with this... However, I tend to blur the line between an IFAK, and a BOK...
Originally Posted By 3XIraqvet:
Originally Posted By Deathmoney07:
I'm seeing some really nice IFAK kits, but do any of you actually know how to use them if you were in a situation that required it??? not trying to be a dick, but this applies the same as your vest and such, try it out to make sure it works and you can use it properly I mean has anyone even used an NP tube? I'm not sure if the civilian side has its own version of a combat life saver course but if you haven't had any medical training, I recommend taking it. If you have all that medical gear and have no idea on its proper use then its worthless. just my $0.02 Agreed. I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express once. Your IFAK is also meant to be used on you. If you don't know how to use a medical supply, don't try to figure it out in the middle of an emergency. Consider, though, that there are a bunch of us wandering around the planet who have trauma training of one kind or another - medic/corpsman, nurse, doctor, EMT/paramedic, other trained first responders, etc. You're unconscious, so probably not going to be sticking a needle in your own chest, an NPA in your own nose, or safety pinning your own tongue to your lip. If you have the stuff, a trained person will probably do much better with a needle out of the kit for decompressing your chest. I could maybe muddle through using my pocket knife to cut a hole & decompress your chest, but at that point you're very far down the dying road for someone to contemplate such a drastic & risky maneuver. Weigh whether your kit has a chance of being used on you by a trained person, and whether the admittedly very small chance of that outweighs the few extra ounces of gear. It's a personal choice, but at least worth considering the possibilities. Just my opinion, and one size doesn't fit all. My IFAK has one medium size first aid kit, which is your basic boo-boo kit... I originally tried to keep the more 'serious' blow-out kit items separate. Instead, these days I keep the boo-boo kit separate, in a far back pocket, and the more serious BOK items up front and quickly accessible. I only keep the BOK and IFAK items that I know how to use... I took limited training in trauma / gsw stuff, but certainly NEED to have more training! As such, I don't have an NPA and some other items I've not trained with yet, but will add them as I learn to use them. I think wound pressure is highly under-rated and emphasized in some training courses. I keep Olaes bandages, quick-clot combat gauze, shears, tape, tourniquet, hemostat, and some other items, but I'm a huge fan of the Olaes bandages. They're pretty fast & convenient. What do you guys think about mixing the purposes into one larger all-purpose med pouch??? I specifically keep the boo-boo first aid stuff in the back pocket in a separate zippered bag. When my tri-fold detachable med pouch is opened, the first three layers of the tri-fold are more important trauma care items, light stick, etc... Then I have to dig out the separate boo-boo kit. I figure if I just have a light boo boo I have time to dig it out. If myself or a friend is seriously wounded/injured I have the more important medical items up front and quickly accessible. Thanks for the great information in this thread! I'm learning a lot more about prioritizing and placement here! Coming to Urban tactics this summer? We'll be going through all the popular BOK adjuncts.I'll bring Ed the head and give you some practice in placing a nasal airway, as well as occlusive dressings, tourniquet use, yadda yadda. If you're not making UT, we can set up a meet there or here sometime this spring / summer. Maybe we can schedule it alongside a food pantry trip - I need to get in on that. I really, really favor a dedicated kit for major trauma. Streamlining immediate interventions pays huge dividends when you're doing stuff like that under pressure and time constraints. In my personal gear, I've ended up with a blow out kit, and a second pouch that started out as an IFAK, but morphed into a comfort kit, with sun block, wet wipes and sich as well as first aid stuff. The "big kit" is third line or vehicle. i do not want to be digging past my chap stick and band aids to get to a pressure dressing or TQ. YMMV. Your separate pocket solution is the closest I'd want to a combined kit. it can be a pain telling blood from water from piss from cerebrospinal fluid under colored lights. tactical situation permitting, a white light makes patient assessment much easier. Thats why tac medics carry blue lights along with red for night ops. if you are dealing with enough CSF to confuse it with piss or something else than your in a lot of trouble. if its coming out of their ears and face its csf, if it shines red under a blue lens its blood, anything else is water or piss. a white light when everyone else is dark will put you pretty well out of commission for the next 10 minutes or so trying to get your sight back. |
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Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids:
Old ass spartan I  got it for $25 because a guy needed a smaller size Circa 2004 and now has 4 deployments under its belt.... the original TAG, that is no longer around. |
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Originally Posted By ARogueNinja:
My med pouch is down at the bottom left. Contents of the BDS Tactical IFAK pouch is: USMC IFAK contents 2 CATS the Pouch next to the IFAK has a CAT in it. and above it are Eagle shears w/ retension lanyard. http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1421/photo3kh.jpg Instead of the American flag and blood type, might I recommend getting a Red Cross insignia to designate your med pouch as medical? The American flag is great and all, but it's something that will be skipped over for a second or two, and the blood type patch is essentially useless. |
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Anyone know the dimensions on this tear-off IFAK?
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I don't support being hit by a bus or by a train, but i know they both would suck.
| Off the top of my head 4 colums wide by 7 rows tall. Its one of two that I use in my pc. Its full if hemmorage control. The other is the specter gear tear off fir sticky things (holds 3x20s, 3x22s, 3x18s, 1x500ml, 1xint, 1x60 drip and 1x starter kit). I also use a modified usgi ifak for airway. I've got it setup so I can treat 1 patient without having to dig into my bag |
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Originally Posted By vikingmedic128:
Off the top of my head 4 colums wide by 7 rows tall. Its one of two that I use in my pc. Its full if hemmorage control. The other is the specter gear tear off fir sticky things (holds 3x20s, 3x22s, 3x18s, 1x500ml, 1xint, 1x60 drip and 1x starter kit). I also use a modified usgi ifak for airway. I've got it setup so I can treat 1 patient without having to dig into my bag I didn't understand a damn thing you said.
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I don't support being hit by a bus or by a train, but i know they both would suck.
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Originally Posted By bigsapper:
Originally Posted By vikingmedic128:
Off the top of my head 4 colums wide by 7 rows tall. Its one of two that I use in my pc. Its full if hemmorage control. The other is the specter gear tear off fir sticky things (holds 3x20s, 3x22s, 3x18s, 1x500ml, 1xint, 1x60 drip and 1x starter kit). I also use a modified usgi ifak for airway. I've got it setup so I can treat 1 patient without having to dig into my bag I didn't understand a damn thing you said. it's 4 pals columns wide and 7 pals rows tall. look at whatever your trying to mount it to and count them. not trying to sound like an ass. |
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