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10/3/2025 8:31:46 PM EDT
Is there any way to load an M1 Garand with a loaded clip inserted and an EMPTY chamber? Could it be done with a downloaded clip (e.g. 7 rounds)? Could the fully-loaded clip be inserted, the bolt eased partly forward and then the top round be removed manually?

This would be for an action rifle match where we want the competitors to start the stage in Condition 3 (loaded magazine, empty chamber). Some folks may bring an M1.
10/3/2025 8:40:42 PM EDT
[#1]
High power shooters do this with the Garand.

It’s called “load to an override.”

With seven or less rounds, it can be done. Be careful, or you’ll get Garand Thumb. The thumb holds the cartridges down while the palm blocks the op rod.
10/3/2025 9:22:42 PM EDT
[#2]
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Originally Posted By AR-180:
High power shooters do this with the Garand.

It’s called “load to an override.”

With seven or less rounds, it can be done. Be careful, or you’ll get Garand Thumb. The thumb holds the cartridges down while the palm blocks the op rod.
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Awesome, thanks for the quick reply... very helpful
10/4/2025 10:27:17 AM EDT
[#3]
AR 180 is spot on.  We were blasting with the M1 and got down to 5 or 6 loose rounds.  Did just what he described and it worked fine.
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10/4/2025 11:21:38 AM EDT
[#4]
Yes, I've used this to let others shoot my Garand to get the last round clip ejection ping without having to burn through 8 rounds of .30-06.  I usually do 2 or 3 rounds, but it can work with up to 7.

It's easier to load to override, then cycle it, than to try to manually feed the top round while riding the op rod closed.  Better for your thumb too.

In your case, load to override gets you to the desired condition of magwell loaded, chamber empty.
10/4/2025 6:38:51 PM EDT
[#5]
Just don't force in an 8 round clip and try to close the bolt on an empty chamber.
That bends a part in the action and the rifle starts ejecting a partially loaded clip.
10/4/2025 10:27:03 PM EDT
[#6]
Just load in an empty clip.  Then put in the number of rounds you want.
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10/9/2025 8:59:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: smoothy8500][Edited] [#7]
Here's a decent video on the "crossed rounds" loading for the 10-round rapids  CMP matches. But the empty clip in the receiver and load whatever rounds needed is a good method. Start at the 2 minute mark:

How to load the M1 Rifle with 2 - 8 rounds

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