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Posted: 7/17/2024 12:51:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: @Combat_Diver See any of these Sig SURG kits floating around? Come across any yet at work? I have not |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 10:48:15 PM EDT
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Do we even know who is going to be issuing them. I know SOCOM but that’s pretty broad.
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Posted: 7/18/2024 12:02:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StampCollector87: Do we even know who is going to be issuing them. I know SOCOM but that's pretty broad. Based of some photos NSW might also have them but just sitting in the cages. Though from talking to people they just sit in the armory at AFSOC also lol |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 12:13:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: AFSOC has them. Based of some photos NSW might also have them but just sitting in the cages. Though from talking to people they just sit in the armory at AFSOC also lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Originally Posted By StampCollector87: Do we even know who is going to be issuing them. I know SOCOM but that's pretty broad. Based of some photos NSW might also have them but just sitting in the cages. Though from talking to people they just sit in the armory at AFSOC also lol $48 million dollars to just sit around and not get used - amazing. Though I know this sort of thing happens all the time with the government. |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 9:14:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: AFSOC has them. Based of some photos NSW might also have them but just sitting in the cages. Though from talking to people they just sit in the armory at AFSOC also lol I was under the impression that these were meant to replace the MK18 program for NSW and MARSOC. Is this not the case? I've been part of small arms transition for a military service and a simple change can take multiple years so them being under utilized or not fielded currently can be for a host of reasons. |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 9:31:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: I was under the impression that these were meant to replace the MK18 program for NSW and MARSOC. Is this not the case? I've been part of small arms transition for a military service and a simple change can take multiple years so them being under utilized or not fielded currently can be for a host of reasons. Which is why guns are type classified thru Crane as it only takes a short time, not years. |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 9:41:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Which is why guns are type classified thru Crane as it only takes a short time, not years. What's the Type for a SURG/M4A1? |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 9:45:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: What's the Type for a SURG/M4A1? No clue, haven't seen them |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 10:51:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: I was under the impression that these were meant to replace the MK18 program for NSW and MARSOC. Is this not the case? I've been part of small arms transition for a military service and a simple change can take multiple years so them being under utilized or not fielded currently can be for a host of reasons. The rifles are out there. As cool as these rifles are it seems like it's just another Mk16 situation.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 12:08:37 PM EDT
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The Mk16 comparison is an interesting one.
I mean, on the one hand, I understand why they wanted something like the SURG - something that's a little more fine tuned for a short barreled suppressed rifle (which these guys use the hell out of). On the other hand, is it really THAT much better than the current CQBR URG-I 11.5/10.5 w/ Surefire SOCOM suppressors? They look cool as hell though - no denying that (and I still want one). |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 12:36:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: The Mk16 comparison is an interesting one. I mean, on the one hand, I understand why they wanted something like the SURG - something that's a little more fine tuned for a short barreled suppressed rifle (which these guys use the hell out of). On the other hand, is it really THAT much better than the current CQBR URG-I 11.5/10.5 w/ Surefire SOCOM suppressors? They look cool as hell though - no denying that (and I still want one). |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 2:38:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Not to mention that units are adopting flow through suppressors making this even more redundant. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: The Mk16 comparison is an interesting one. I mean, on the one hand, I understand why they wanted something like the SURG - something that's a little more fine tuned for a short barreled suppressed rifle (which these guys use the hell out of). On the other hand, is it really THAT much better than the current CQBR URG-I 11.5/10.5 w/ Surefire SOCOM suppressors? They look cool as hell though - no denying that (and I still want one). As much as I drool over the SURG, the truth is, you could probably put the SURG suppressor on a regular Mk18 and save 90% of the program cost and get 90% of the benefit. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 8:16:28 PM EDT
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UPS lost my SURG on the way to my shop
Fucking idiots |
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Posted: 7/21/2024 9:23:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StampCollector87: I am amazed with how quiet the SURG is and how you get zero gas to the face which is a huge plus as a lefty. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/193723/8AE99C53-3969-4762-B1D4-27B36C2FC2C0_1_2-3248973.jpg How about the weight? I couldnt' find any info on the web. Is it heavy or similar to MCX 11.5 LT? |
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Posted: 7/22/2024 9:53:24 PM EDT
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The SURG is a virtus upper, so it'll be closer to that in weight
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Posted: 8/7/2024 1:09:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: The rifles are out there. As cool as these rifles are it seems like it's just another Mk16 situation. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/IMG_8622_jpeg-3271020.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/IMG_8623_jpeg-3271021.JPG It's not a Mk16 situation, but they're just not as widely used as the URGI. Some recent pics of AFSOC actually using them dropped not that long ago.    
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Posted: 8/9/2024 4:36:36 PM EDT
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I wonder if they'll ever sell tanodized receiver adapters and stocks for us broke boys.
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