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Posted: 3/16/2023 8:14:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve: Probably because the ones that they had got bought by scalpers. I have no evidence to back that up but I'm sure that it's what happened. Proven Outfitters is a LE distributor that typically sells at MSRP or MAP - I've never seen them gouge on anything and I've bought many guns from them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve: Originally Posted By JAG2955: Now Proven is still OOS but bumped the price to $6K.  Probably because the ones that they had got bought by scalpers. I have no evidence to back that up but I'm sure that it's what happened. Proven Outfitters is a LE distributor that typically sells at MSRP or MAP - I've never seen them gouge on anything and I've bought many guns from them. I'd say $6k qualifies as gouging on a $4399 MSRP gun. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 8:57:11 PM EST
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Coregon had better be working that assembly line like they're North Korean slave laborers.
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Posted: 3/16/2023 9:09:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: Coregon had better be working that assembly line like they're North Korean slave laborers. I think we scared him away… |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2023 7:09:36 PM EST
[#4]
Any evidence that there will be a DMR version of the SPEAR?
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Posted: 3/18/2023 10:11:46 AM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTR_Warlord: I think we scared him away… Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTR_Warlord: Originally Posted By JAG2955: Coregon had better be working that assembly line like they're North Korean slave laborers. I think we scared him away… Pshh |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 10:12:06 AM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By htxdriller: Any evidence that there will be a DMR version of the SPEAR? Look up the MRGG-S contract. You never know. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 10:15:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: Look up the MRGG-S contract. You never know. The requirements document for the MRGG-S |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 12:18:24 PM EST
[#8]
Has there been a winner for this contract or is this still active?
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Posted: 3/19/2023 12:27:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: wayfaerer320]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kgknight1037: Has there been a winner for this contract or is this still active? I think it's still ongoing, but the last I heard is that they're in the user trials phase, which is the final phase right before the contract is awarded. 1Q 2023 is supposed to be when the contract is awarded, so based on that, I would think it's really close (possibly within the next couple weeks). |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 12:59:33 AM EST
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Does anyone know if the grip is the same one that came on the Virtus? Or is it interchangeable with any AR pistol grip? Thanks
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/20/2023 6:01:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: I think it's still ongoing, but the last I heard is that they're in the user trials phase, which is the final phase right before the contract is awarded. 1Q 2023 is supposed to be when the contract is awarded, so based on that, I would think it's really close (possibly within the next couple weeks). Is that fiscal Q1 or calendar Q1? I always have to ask that at work... |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 9:21:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: wayfaerer320]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk: Is that fiscal Q1 or calendar Q1? I always have to ask that at work... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: I think it's still ongoing, but the last I heard is that they're in the user trials phase, which is the final phase right before the contract is awarded. 1Q 2023 is supposed to be when the contract is awarded, so based on that, I would think it's really close (possibly within the next couple weeks). Is that fiscal Q1 or calendar Q1? I always have to ask that at work... Ahh good catch - fiscal. So disregard what I said - when does the military's Q1 fiscal begin? October? |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 8:16:22 PM EST
[#13]
Has anyone actually seen one in stock other than Gunbroker or what's been posted already?
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Posted: 3/20/2023 9:40:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: Ahh good catch - fiscal. So disregard what I said - when does the military's Q1 fiscal begin? October? Oct 1st |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/21/2023 1:39:14 PM EST
[#15]
Would be really interested to see the barrel length and caliber submission for the MRGG-S contract. I’m wondering if it’s a 20” 6.5 Creed. I haven’t come across any ballistics data or any other information from Sig around the 6.8x51mm round out of anything longer than a 13” barrel.
I can only imagine that 6.8x51mm looks great in a 20” though… |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 3/21/2023 3:08:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: call_me_ski]
[#16]
Last I heard LMT and Larue made the downselect for MRGG. There was a reshoot due to bad ammo and KAC and FN were added along side LMT and Larue. But that is just rumors.
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Posted: 3/21/2023 3:24:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By call_me_ski: Last I heard LMT and Larue made the downselect for MRGG. There was a reshoot due to bad ammo and KAC and FN were added along side LMT and Larue. But that is just rumors. Several things that are incorrect with the above. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 3/21/2023 4:18:31 PM EST
[#18]
Coregon, is the trigger in the Spear a specific MCX trigger or is an AR style?
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MN, USA
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Posted: 3/21/2023 8:26:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: Several things that are incorrect with the above. Figured that was the case, hence the tag at the end. |
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Posted: 3/21/2023 11:51:47 PM EST
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Posted: 3/22/2023 7:55:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By call_me_ski: Figured that was the case, hence the tag at the end. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By call_me_ski: Originally Posted By coregon: Several things that are incorrect with the above. Figured that was the case, hence the tag at the end. Also, didn’t mean it to “sound” as terse as it reads. Obviously, I can only say so much about certain things, but can let you guys know if you’re trending in the right direction(s). |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2023 9:00:24 AM EST
[#22]
@coregon
Any word on on LEO only SKUs of the spear? |
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Posted: 3/22/2023 6:48:46 PM EST
[#23]
I think I'm on every email notification list for any dealer I can find. Nothing yet.
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Posted: 3/27/2023 2:03:09 PM EST
[#24]
Called Sig Customer Service Official MSRP for
RSPEAR-762-16B $4,579.99 |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 2:43:54 PM EST
[#25]
Now if only I could find one.
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Posted: 3/29/2023 1:43:44 PM EST
[#26]
Proven Arms has a few.
https://www.provenoutfitters.com/mcx-spear-762x51-13-coy-sbr Not gonna rejoice at the price though... |
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Posted: 3/29/2023 5:17:34 PM EST
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Posted: 3/29/2023 8:32:22 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryIt'd be great if you could just tell PA to keep the ammo and only order the SPEAR....... That'd bring it down closer to MSRP. |
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Posted: 3/29/2023 11:04:24 PM EST
[#29]
That’s 1200 over MSRP
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Posted: 3/29/2023 11:31:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: Croak]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTR_Warlord: That’s 1200 over MSRP That does include 200 rounds of SIG Elite ball, and 200 rounds of SIG Elite OTM ammo and 5 20rd Pmags, but yeah, it's right at a 20% markup over MSRP on the Spear. |
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Posted: 3/30/2023 12:58:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: JAG2955]
[#31]
It's bad enough when I can't find one, and then another member rubs it in.
 Attached File I do have a Sig taper flash hider and a pile of brand new Lancer mags just waiting for it. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2023 5:13:06 PM EST
[#32]
I feel your pain....i've got a pile of Lancer mags and a Nightforce with Reptilia mount ready...just need the rifle.
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Posted: 3/31/2023 2:45:11 AM EST
[#33]
I want to be the first to chop the barrel 16” OAL P&W as soon as I find one.
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Posted: 3/31/2023 3:14:09 AM EST
[Last Edit: GrAvril]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: It's bad enough when I can't find one, and then another member rubs it in. He run a gunbroker store or something? Who would pay over $5k for a 16” 308 |
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Posted: 3/31/2023 4:19:52 AM EST
[#35]
Nope, just a guy who knows I want one and is enjoying a little schadenfreude.
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Posted: 3/31/2023 12:37:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: He run a gunbroker store or something? Who would pay over $5k for a 16” 308 Don't the KAC, HK & LMT dudes do it all the time? |
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Posted: 4/1/2023 12:17:22 AM EST
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Posted: 4/1/2023 12:32:24 PM EST
[#38]
https://www.reddit.com/r/SigSauer/comments/128biby/my_greatest_frustration_with_the_spear/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
wow .and yes that's the full size rail flexing. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/2/2023 4:20:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fivepointoh: https://www.reddit.com/r/SigSauer/comments/128biby/my_greatest_frustration_with_the_spear/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1 wow .and yes that's the full size rail flexing. Wow and I thought my 16 inch Spear LT rail shift was bad. How is the military ok with this? Sig's T&E seriously needs some work, I don't understand how you miss this. |
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Posted: 4/2/2023 7:32:01 PM EST
[#40]
@Coregon does it really shift like this? Or is something screwy going on in the video? Like improperly installed handguard? Thanks
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/2/2023 8:06:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTR_Warlord: @Coregon does it really shift like this? Or is something screwy going on in the video? Like improperly installed handguard? Thanks Mine and others Spear LTs do it, Arisaka already made a fix for the LTs. Sig doesn't currently call out a torque spec for the handguard screws, but even at 40 in/lbs on my 16 inch I can cause this to happen to an extent. |
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Posted: 4/2/2023 8:32:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gee0111: Mine and others Spear LTs do it, Arisaka already made a fix for the LTs. Sig doesn't currently call out a torque spec for the handguard screws, but even at 40 in/lbs on my 16 inch I can cause this to happen to an extent. Unacceptable 
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Posted: 4/11/2023 9:20:49 PM EST
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Is all hope lost?
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2023 5:44:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTR_Warlord: Is all hope lost? abandon all hope ye who enter this thread. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2023 7:44:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gee0111: Wow and I thought my 16 inch Spear LT rail shift was bad. How is the military ok with this? Sig's T&E seriously needs some work, I don't understand how you miss this. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gee0111: Originally Posted By fivepointoh: https://www.reddit.com/r/SigSauer/comments/128biby/my_greatest_frustration_with_the_spear/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1 wow .and yes that's the full size rail flexing. Wow and I thought my 16 inch Spear LT rail shift was bad. How is the military ok with this? Sig's T&E seriously needs some work, I don't understand how you miss this. I just pulled a 14.5" Geissele URGI out of the safe and did the same thing as in that video. I'm by no means an Sig apologist and have shit on them in the past, but that video is not a big deal in my opinion. When I get home, I'll check my 14.5" DD with an RISII quad on it. I expect the quad with perform a little better, but still have some shift. Quads are still king of the hill if you want little to no movement in your rail. |
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Posted: 4/12/2023 8:22:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By esdunbar: I just pulled a 14.5" Geissele URGI out of the safe and did the same thing as in that video. I'm by no means an Sig apologist and have shit on them in the past, but that video is not a big deal in my opinion. When I get home, I'll check my 14.5" DD with an RISII quad on it. I expect the quad with perform a little better, but still have some shift. Quads are still king of the hill if you want little to no movement in your rail. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By esdunbar: Originally Posted By gee0111: Originally Posted By fivepointoh: https://www.reddit.com/r/SigSauer/comments/128biby/my_greatest_frustration_with_the_spear/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1 wow .and yes that's the full size rail flexing. Wow and I thought my 16 inch Spear LT rail shift was bad. How is the military ok with this? Sig's T&E seriously needs some work, I don't understand how you miss this. I just pulled a 14.5" Geissele URGI out of the safe and did the same thing as in that video. I'm by no means an Sig apologist and have shit on them in the past, but that video is not a big deal in my opinion. When I get home, I'll check my 14.5" DD with an RISII quad on it. I expect the quad with perform a little better, but still have some shift. Quads are still king of the hill if you want little to no movement in your rail. I think some things are being conflated here. The movement that the Sig's rail is experiencing is a shift of the position of the rail. This is a function of it's attachment method, not rigidity of the rail itself. A quad version would be no different. The RISII did well as far as resisting any shift after force was applied, but is not the stiffest even compared to some M-Lok rails. Again, the resistance to shifting is because of the attachment method. The flexibility might be due to it being two parts bolted together, at least in part. |
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Posted: 4/12/2023 2:09:50 PM EST
[#47]
Well, this just happened.
 Attached File  Im still going to nab a 16" as soon as I see one for anything close to MSRP. |
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Posted: 4/12/2023 3:53:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: Well, this just happened. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/356105/A1CFABE1-6898-4C83-A509-B909D4FDD10D_png-2779867.JPG https://imgs.search.brave.com/fTAwjBRrKZoVqtyw3ZZLfCDxdkKvbw07K6eNGCC1V8k/rs:fit:320:218:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9jb21i/LmlvL1VnWFJWQy5n/aWY.gif https://imgs.search.brave.com/mFrJY2h3Mc5cO9_0FD4XKrF02JFW03i4uvbjIq2KUb8/rs:fit:480:360:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9mcmlu/a2lhYy5jb20vdmlk/ZW8vUzA0RTA5L190/SVh1ZWhmTURGTUtk/Z254U3drWG1WZE1v/az0uZ2lm.gif Im still going to nab a 16" as soon as I see one for anything close to MSRP. Congratulations!! Still waiting on mine |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2023 4:02:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: Well, this just happened. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/356105/A1CFABE1-6898-4C83-A509-B909D4FDD10D_png-2779867.JPG https://imgs.search.brave.com/fTAwjBRrKZoVqtyw3ZZLfCDxdkKvbw07K6eNGCC1V8k/rs:fit:320:218:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9jb21i/LmlvL1VnWFJWQy5n/aWY.gif https://imgs.search.brave.com/mFrJY2h3Mc5cO9_0FD4XKrF02JFW03i4uvbjIq2KUb8/rs:fit:480:360:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9mcmlu/a2lhYy5jb20vdmlk/ZW8vUzA0RTA5L190/SVh1ZWhmTURGTUtk/Z254U3drWG1WZE1v/az0uZ2lm.gif Im still going to nab a 16" as soon as I see one for anything close to MSRP. Congrats! At least you were able to grab one at MSRP (or around). Shame they aren't 13.5" barrels, would make it easier to pin/weld and get around NFA. |
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Posted: 4/12/2023 4:10:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: JAG2955]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zerlak: Congrats! At least you were able to grab one at MSRP (or around). Shame they aren't 13.5" barrels, would make it easier to pin/weld and get around NFA. Fuck the NFA. Sorry though guys, it's a guarantee that since I bought this, Saint Thomas won't eviscerate the NFA when he does the pistol brace case. ETA: shaky arms from lifting and auto correct don't go hand in hand. |
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