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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:53:16 PM EDT
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I got a Sterling AR180 in good shape at a gun show not too long ago for $1500. They're out there, just not on Gunbroker. For some reason, people pay more than that for AR180B's on gunbroker.
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Posted: 5/21/2024 9:40:06 AM EDT
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Any new news on these?
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Posted: 5/21/2024 11:58:07 AM EDT
[#3]
Yeah, I’ve been patiently waiting. I picked up an AP5 but really want a K I just wanna see what the street prices on these before I make that purchase
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Posted: 5/21/2024 12:28:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CFletch]
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I really want these to get sent to enough people for some thorough reviews to come out on them, especially compared to the AP5 in quality and reliability. I don't need a MP5 clone, but I do want one.
Kind of random, but is there some sort of internal barrel coating on these? Nitrite, chrome, naked steel, etc |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 12:40:24 PM EDT
[#5]
I didn't wait on the MAC.
Picked up the MKE AP5-P instead. I didn't have any issue with my last AP5-P. I didn't have any extractor or extractor spring replaced. The recoil spring bushing did sever after about 500 rounds. I replaced it and its running again. I figure with CHF barrel and I didn't have any issue with the last AP5-P, not worth waiting or taking a chance on the MAC-5. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 5/25/2024 9:43:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 101ABN327]
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I sent a note to MAC and they told me they were still jammed up with the import paperwork approval. Looks like there will be no MAC5s available for sale for the foreseeable future...
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/25/2024 12:06:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 101ABN327: I sent a note to MAC and they told me they were still jammed up with the import paperwork approval. Looks like there will be no MAC5s available for sale for the foreseeable future... I wonder what the point of contention is? Obviously Century is getting nearly the identical gun through. I wonder if these are in country or waiting to ship in Turkey? |
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Posted: 5/25/2024 1:29:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: I wonder what the point of contention is? Obviously Century is getting nearly the identical gun through. I wonder if these are in country or waiting to ship in Turkey? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: Originally Posted By 101ABN327: I sent a note to MAC and they told me they were still jammed up with the import paperwork approval. Looks like there will be no MAC5s available for sale for the foreseeable future... I wonder what the point of contention is? Obviously Century is getting nearly the identical gun through. I wonder if these are in country or waiting to ship in Turkey? |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 2:57:16 PM EDT
[#9]
Been a couple of months. Any update?
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Posted: 7/17/2024 9:51:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog1911: Been a couple of months. Any update? Seems like vaporware at this point. Glad I decided to just pick up an ap5. |
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Posted: 8/30/2024 7:36:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/30/2024 9:07:35 PM EDT
[#12]
$1000 is a good price. Haven't been able to find bbl specs.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2024 9:53:49 PM EDT
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I just ordered one from Battlehawk Armory around noon when they hit their site.
I went all in with a Lee's sporting lower, sear trip, A2 stock, Omega9k and grabbed some Bryce HK and an SD handguard to hopefully make a knock off MP5SD that's really 'safe' with some other goodies. Been an expensive day... 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2024 9:59:35 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshNC: The receivers do have that not-made-to-HK-spec look to them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshNC: Originally Posted By mgwantob: it’s almost like these are a US clone but built in Turkey, aka Todd Bailey style. I’ll wait until they materialize on the market to pass actual judgement. The receivers do have that not-made-to-HK-spec look to them. Yeah, they look a little "wavey". |
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Posted: 8/31/2024 7:15:21 AM EDT
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While I won't argue Cold Hammer Forged is better than button rifled - Does it really matter that much in a 9mm or pistol cartridges?
And if Nitrided, Button rifling's durability is well extended. I'm just glad there is another reasonable clone. So Far MAC/SDS has offered some guns that generally look good and work well. I'm thinking Grab one or two before the election? |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:34:36 PM EDT
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Any real reviews yet?
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:25:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m6z: Any real reviews yet? Atlantic posted a vid earlier. Does not inspire confidence if they cannot install the small parts correctly. Backwards mag button right out in the open so you have to wonder what’s in there you can’t see. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:42:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kells81: Atlantic posted a vid earlier. Does not inspire confidence if they cannot install the small parts correctly. Backwards mag button right out in the open so you have to wonder what’s in there you can’t see. But the pictures on Atlantic's website shows the mag release installed the correct direction. So is it 50/50? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:12:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:52:42 PM EDT
[#20]
Are they also importing decent mags is what I want to know
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Posted: 9/7/2024 8:57:13 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cherenkov: Are they also importing decent mags is what I want to know We do hope to see extra MAC 5 Factory mags offered towards the end of the year. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 12:35:02 PM EDT
[#22]
Not sure why Atlantic isn’t posting their vids to this thread.
But here ya go.  The MAC 5 Full Size Pistol! A GOOD DAY For Roller Locks! |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/9/2024 11:20:01 AM EDT
[#23]
Looking forward to when the K hits the shelves.
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Posted: 9/9/2024 3:45:18 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: Looking forward to when the K hits the shelves. Same here |
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Posted: 9/9/2024 8:02:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ATLANTIC-FIREARMS]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: Looking forward to when the K hits the shelves. We hope to see some sweet MAC 5K models by the end of the month if all goes smoothley with the transport !  |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 9/9/2024 9:39:20 PM EDT
[#26]
Picked up my MAC5 a few days ago. Overall very happy with it. Going to be next week before I get a chance to shoot it, but fit and finish seem very nice. There is one blem by the front sight in the paint but nothing worth worrying over. Welds are fairly clean, action is slick, and magwell locks up tight and the mag button is installed correctly.
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Posted: 9/10/2024 12:32:48 AM EDT
[#27]
What's needed for me to put my sear in it?
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Posted: 9/10/2024 6:53:31 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: What's needed for me to put my sear in it? Probably a removable sear trip carrier. Haven't seen one stripped yet. |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 6:59:48 AM EDT
[#29]
For these to be imported they have a sear block welded inside the reciever .
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Posted: 9/10/2024 1:20:09 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: For these to be imported they have a sear block welded inside the reciever . Like MKE, and Zenith? |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 1:36:31 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MisterPX: $1000 is a good price. Haven't been able to find bbl specs. They are button-rifled, not CHF. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/10/2024 7:45:42 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS: We hope to see some sweet MAC 5K models by the end of the month if all goes smoothley with the transport ! https://atlanticfirearms.com/media/cache/sylius_shop_product_original/product/mac-5k-9mm-pistol-6.jpg Perfect! 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/12/2024 10:40:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/13/2024 12:13:59 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryNice review. Well worth a watch. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 9/13/2024 1:07:50 AM EDT
[#35]
For those wanting to be super safe with these you will have a road block with the auto block. There's a lip that extends into the side channel which will block access for the sear trip to slide in freely.
Technically in minecraft you could probably mill that lip off and still keep the auto block in place and your dogs safe as it would still prevent the auto carrier from going in. Hypothetically it would take some small carbide drill bits and roughly 2 hours with a tiny file to get things opened up.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/13/2024 7:50:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Punisher]
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Posted: 9/13/2024 9:38:33 PM EDT
[#37]
As low as I've seen it currently $916.
Add to cart for best price. https://dahlonegaarmory.com/product-details?id=2988032 |
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Posted: 9/18/2024 3:24:43 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JestersHK: For those wanting to be super safe with these you will have a road block with the auto block. There's a lip that extends into the side channel which will block access for the sear trip to slide in freely. Technically in minecraft you could probably mill that lip off and still keep the auto block in place and your dogs safe as it would still prevent the auto carrier from going in. Hypothetically it would take some small carbide drill bits and roughly 2 hours with a tiny file to get things opened up. Wouldn't one of the bolt carriers with the replaceable sear trip work? |
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Posted: 9/18/2024 3:28:34 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MHIDPA: Wouldn't one of the bolt carriers with the replaceable sear trip work? |
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Posted: 9/18/2024 3:30:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: The super safety in the MP5 doesn't use the normal FA MP5 sear trip surfaces on the bolt to trip the SS lever. It uses a separate part that installs on the back of the carrier and rides in the frame rails behind it. The actual trip surface is centered in the receiver, it has to emulate the location of the auto trip surface on an AR carrier, since the SS was designed for the AR platform first. Gotcha. |
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Posted: 9/26/2024 6:42:15 PM EDT
[#41]
There are some pretty good reviews coming out on these, not just from the shill types either.
Went ahead and put one on order. Wont arrive before I travel for work though so it’s going to be a few weeks. Will be my first roller gun though. Mag prices sting a bit. |
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Posted: 9/27/2024 9:40:04 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: The super safety in the MP5 doesn't use the normal FA MP5 sear trip surfaces on the bolt to trip the SS lever. It uses a separate part that installs on the back of the carrier and rides in the frame rails behind it. The actual trip surface is centered in the receiver, it has to emulate the location of the auto trip surface on an AR carrier, since the SS was designed for the AR platform first. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: Originally Posted By MHIDPA: Wouldn't one of the bolt carriers with the replaceable sear trip work? So you do need one of these to run a SS in a MP5? https://skoprints.com/product/mp5-k-steel-trip/ https://skoprints.com/product/mp5k-super-safety-trip/ Can you file on the trip to get it to fit instead of the gun? |
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Posted: 9/27/2024 4:24:59 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drobs: So you do need one of these to run a SS in a MP5? https://skoprints.com/product/mp5-k-steel-trip/ https://skoprints.com/product/mp5k-super-safety-trip/ Can you file on the trip to get it to fit instead of the gun? You can probably file it to fit past, I haven't seen the sear block in the MAC guns, but I had to file on the trip a bit to fit past the block in my AP5. You need the trip to be able to freely slide in the receiver and past that sear block with basically no binding. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2024 9:59:55 PM EDT
[#44]
You would need to drill and file to get the trip to clear. I posted a picture on hkpro in the clone talk section showing the block.
I certified my sbr paperwork today through silencershop. The MAC 5 was not a model listed under mertsav so It'll likely go to pending research... hopefully I still get a quick turn around, but we'll have to see. |
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Posted: 9/28/2024 6:49:05 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JestersHK: You would need to drill and file to get the trip to clear. I posted a picture on hkpro in the clone talk section showing the block. I certified my sbr paperwork today through silencershop. The MAC 5 was not a model listed under mertsav so It'll likely go to pending research... hopefully I still get a quick turn around, but we'll have to see. I found your posts over there. Can post here of there what area you filed on the trip? |
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Posted: 9/28/2024 7:07:40 AM EDT
[#46]
If you are SBRing - does the MAC-5 work well?
I'm curious of first hand accounts. Might get one before election - kind of concerned prices might spike after that. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 9/28/2024 8:21:56 AM EDT
[#47]
Mine has run great so far. About 500 rnds or so and accuracy and fit and finish are still great. Been very happy with my sample size of one.
I was looking at HK models, but might just save the money and get a 5k. The SP5K I was looking at had uglier welds than my MAC5 that costs a 3rd of the price. To me these guns are range toys and that money will go to other projects. Being an HK snob as well, this gun scratches the itch for what I've been looking for and is a great value at getting into roller locked PCC's |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/28/2024 2:09:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cnctactical]
[#48]
picked up my MAC 5 on Friday from my ffl I paid $943 shipped. I have the AP5-P and some of the welds on my MAC 5 are better. the finish on the MAC 5 is not what I like but I already knew that when I bought it. I am debating on purchasing another one or a AP5. I want to do a SD clone. also the MAC 5k now in stock at atlantic
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MO, USA
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Posted: 9/28/2024 9:09:56 PM EDT
[#49]
Any word on when the K model will arrive?
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Posted: 9/28/2024 9:32:22 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m6z: Any word on when the K model will arrive? The post above yours mentioned they are available now. https://atlanticfirearms.com/mac-5k-9mm-pistol |
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