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4/15/2026 9:02:10 AM EDT
1) I need suppressor suggestions (trilug, dedicated for this gun).

2) I plan on SBR it (not sure why other than a fore grip; the brace is longer than the B&T stock I have for it.)

3) I also want an FRT for it - it seems there may be something coming soon that would be drop in for this? (ARHK??)

4) Should I do anything different with current optic setup?  Raise it up some?  The red dot is just above the top of the front sight ring.

I live in VA so making these changes has a time limit on it; filing for SBR stamp today.  Would like to find suppressor soon.  May not make the FRT launch date?

4/15/2026 10:12:04 AM EDT
[#1]
Personally, I don’t like the big, heavy, and long subgun suppressors on the compact 5K guns, even though the suppression is better.  It just looks weird to me, so I went with a relatively short and light can.  I was running an Omega 9K on my SP5K-PDW, but I’m swapping to a Huxwrx Flow 9K Ti soon.

4/15/2026 10:25:59 AM EDT
[#2]
Immediate suggestion as you are in VA - buy the full size version while you still can.  Roller locks are great guns, and I would prioritize getting a second while you can.  If you can, also get the SD model and have it converted to a true SD.  

SBR for sure - there are tons of stock options that are easy to swap.

Drop in FRT is amazing - as with the above, buy it now before that door gets closed.
4/15/2026 11:13:15 AM EDT
[#3]
I use a Wolfman in its short configuration on my K. I also picked up a Spectre9 but have not used it yet. It's pretty light and isn't noticeable on the end. I plan on doing a side x side comparison between the 2.
4/15/2026 12:03:00 PM EDT
[#4]
OCL lithium 9
4/15/2026 12:51:27 PM EDT
[#5]
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OCL lithium 9
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This is a great choice.  YHM R9 if you want to save a few hundred dollars.
4/15/2026 12:59:32 PM EDT
[#6]
Originally Posted By tangbang:
1) I need suppressor suggestions (trilug, dedicated for this gun).

2) I plan on SBR it (not sure why other than a fore grip; the brace is longer than the B&T stock I have for it.)

3) I also want an FRT for it - it seems there may be something coming soon that would be drop in for this? (ARHK??)

4) Should I do anything different with current optic setup?  Raise it up some?  The red dot is just above the top of the front sight ring.

I live in VA so making these changes has a time limit on it; filing for SBR stamp today.  Would like to find suppressor soon.  May not make the FRT launch date?

https://i.postimg.cc/25sVC02T/IMG-7249.jpg
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1) YHM R9, SiCo Omega 9k
2) do it
3) coming soon™ - follow this thread https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/AS-Designs-ARHK/130-792725/
4) nothing wrong with what you have, this recent thread discusses a bunch of optic options - https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/MP5K-optic-solutions/9-561306/


Enjoy! One of my most fun guns
4/15/2026 3:47:38 PM EDT
[#7]
I submitted application for SBR today.
I am going to leave the optic situation alone for now.
Waiting for ARHK solution to become available - hopefully before looming VA gun law effective date.
Here are comments from Grok about suppressors mentioned here (except OCL Lithium which is 6" long).  Thoughts?  I can only buy one and need to choose.


4/15/2026 4:02:00 PM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By stiglitz_actual:



1) YHM R9, SiCo Omega 9k
2) do it
3) coming soon™ - follow this thread https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/AS-Designs-ARHK/130-792725/
4) nothing wrong with what you have, this recent thread discusses a bunch of optic options - https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/MP5K-optic-solutions/9-561306/


Enjoy! One of my most fun guns
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Agreed.


4/15/2026 6:02:20 PM EDT
[#9]
I have a Spectre 9 on my K-PDW with a Resilient titanium tri lug mount. The whole thing weighs like 5.6 ounces.
4/15/2026 6:12:39 PM EDT
[#10]
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Originally Posted By willi3d:
Personally, I don't like the big, heavy, and long subgun suppressors on the compact 5K guns, even though the suppression is better.  It just looks weird to me, so I went with a relatively short and light can.  I was running an Omega 9K on my SP5K-PDW, but I'm swapping to a Huxwrx Flow 9K Ti soon.

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Same omega 9k and looking at flow through option k cans. and the rarebreed FRT is $50K worth of performance for $700
4/15/2026 6:36:49 PM EDT
[#11]
Love my incolite 9 on the mp5.

Comes with a titanium threaded mount, inconel 3d printed at 6 ounces, pistol caliber full auto rated and pretty cheap.

They make the 9s as well at 4 ounces and 4 inches long

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4/15/2026 7:00:20 PM EDT
[#12]
If you buy the Wolfman and dedicate it to the 5K, are you ever going to run it in the long configuration?  If you’re only going to run it short, then it’s a waste to buy a modular can and pay for an extension you’ll never use.  That’s kind of why I moved away from modular cans; I tend to leave it them in one configuration all of the time, thus defeating the modularity, so why pay extra for it?  Only get a modular can if you’re going to use it.
4/15/2026 9:09:23 PM EDT
[#13]
Yhm r9

Yhm hd 3lug mount


80 degree locking piece


As ma y mags as you can buy



And buy a full size ap5
1(800)kbi 4cat

Montani Semper Libre

Qoute : FCSD - Hold up! I could have tip toed around here with just my hand covering my ass, instead of jamming my thumb in my asshole? Y'all motherfuckers need a user manual or something.
4/15/2026 9:38:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Teddydog][Edited] [#14]
I'm no MP5 or can expert, and my 9mm can is NOT dedicated.  But the Omega 9k performs well (shown before SBR stamp and A3 stock).



I do have the tri-lug adapter for the Omega, but it doesn't fit with the flashlight foreend.

Rob
4/15/2026 9:41:13 PM EDT
[#15]
R9 and a rugged 3 lug bixler style mount.
4/15/2026 9:59:10 PM EDT
[#16]
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Originally Posted By triode:
Immediate suggestion as you are in VA - buy the full size version while you still can.  Roller locks are great guns, and I would prioritize getting a second while you can.  If you can, also get the SD model and have it converted to a true SD.  

SBR for sure - there are tons of stock options that are easy to swap.

Drop in FRT is amazing - as with the above, buy it now before that door gets closed.
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I’ll add the caveat that if you can only afford one, I would get the full-size over the K.

IME The full size clones run better than the K clones. Particularly when you start adding a suppressor and or an FRT.
4/16/2026 11:01:20 AM EDT
[#17]
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Originally Posted By kbi:
Yhm r9

Yhm hd 3lug mount


80 degree locking piece


As ma y mags as you can buy



And buy a full size ap5
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What is the reason for the 80 deg locking piece?  Is it related to reliability?  Or making an FRT run?  Something else? Is there a locking piece specific to K gun or are they the same for both size guns?
4/16/2026 11:33:13 AM EDT
[#18]
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Originally Posted By tangbang:

What is the reason for the 80 deg locking piece?  Is it related to reliability?  Or making an FRT run?  Something else? Is there a locking piece specific to K gun or are they the same for both size guns?
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Originally Posted By tangbang:
Originally Posted By kbi:
Yhm r9

Yhm hd 3lug mount


80 degree locking piece


As ma y mags as you can buy



And buy a full size ap5

What is the reason for the 80 deg locking piece?  Is it related to reliability?  Or making an FRT run?  Something else? Is there a locking piece specific to K gun or are they the same for both size guns?


k+silencer needs the locking piece changed for longevity and durability reasons(receiver can get damaged over time).
4/16/2026 10:23:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kbi][Edited] [#19]
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Originally Posted By tangbang:

What is the reason for the 80 deg locking piece?  Is it related to reliability?  Or making an FRT run?  Something else? Is there a locking piece specific to K gun or are they the same for both size guns?
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Originally Posted By tangbang:
Originally Posted By kbi:
Yhm r9

Yhm hd 3lug mount


80 degree locking piece


As ma y mags as you can buy



And buy a full size ap5

What is the reason for the 80 deg locking piece?  Is it related to reliability?  Or making an FRT run?  Something else? Is there a locking piece specific to K gun or are they the same for both size guns?



@tangbang


Basically your keeping your receiver from reforming and wearing out

Suppressors increase pressure and wear

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I want a super.safety frt for my full.size but fuck rare breed


Gota find the name of the guy using ap5 mp5 lowers and his own frt drop in



Here it is

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1(800)kbi 4cat

Montani Semper Libre

Qoute : FCSD - Hold up! I could have tip toed around here with just my hand covering my ass, instead of jamming my thumb in my asshole? Y'all motherfuckers need a user manual or something.
4/17/2026 8:44:29 AM EDT
[#20]
My buddy broke the hammer in his MKE K gun while shooting suppressed with the standard LP, I doubt he had fired more than 300 rds. when it happened. I modded a surplus FA hammer to replace the MKE piece for him.

The stupid thing is that I had an extra 80° LP in my bag the whole time and never thought to install it!

So buy an 80° LP if you're planning to shot with a K model with a can.
4/17/2026 9:30:47 AM EDT
[#21]
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Originally Posted By Clicker58:
My buddy broke the hammer in his MKE K gun while shooting suppressed with the standard LP, I doubt he had fired more than 300 rds. when it happened. I modded a surplus FA hammer to replace the MKE piece for him.

The stupid thing is that I had an extra 80° LP in my bag the whole time and never thought to install it!

So buy an 80° LP if you're planning to shot with a K model with a can.
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Thank you, I ordered the Omega 9K yesterday.  I will look for the 80 LP today.
4/17/2026 12:01:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TripleJ][Edited] [#22]
I found that a 90 degree locking piece worked really well for my AP5-P. I didn’t need the 80 degree until shooting heavy subs in Super Safe. I’d pick up both just to have your bases covered.

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Current configuration:
Rugged Sub 9
AS Designs lower
HK factory stock
Modlight in Gibbous outfitters mount
Holosun 407c in Scalarworks mount
"The world is full of shipping clerks who have read the Harvard Classics."
Charles Bukowski

5/30/2026 9:09:51 AM EDT
[#23]
Instead of starting a new thread, I’ll piggyback on this one.

I’ve also got a K style clone and I just picked up that AS Design FRT.
Is the 80 degree locking piece in stock anywhere? What’s a good lower that will accommodate an AR FCG?

Thanks in advance guys!
5/30/2026 10:19:47 AM EDT
[#24]
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Originally Posted By HitomiYoshi:
Instead of starting a new thread, I’ll piggyback on this one.

I’ve also got a K style clone and I just picked up that AS Design FRT.
Is the 80 degree locking piece in stock anywhere? What’s a good lower that will accommodate an AR FCG?

Thanks in advance guys!
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As far as the 80 deg locking piece.  You have to constantly check them.  I found one two weeks ago at AS designs.   They sell out pretty fast.
5/30/2026 1:38:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: osprey21][Edited] [#25]
I can't attest to this company as I've never dealt with them but they're showing a #28 (80°) in stock.

#28 (80°) LP


* NOTE *

The link above is a scam site!
Now with more political fatigue.
5/30/2026 1:54:32 PM EDT
[#26]
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Originally Posted By osprey21:
I can't attest to this company as I've never dealt with them but they're showing a #28 (80 ) in stock.

#28 (80 ) LP
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@osprey21

That's 100% a scam site.
5/30/2026 2:29:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: osprey21][Edited] [#27]
Yeah, I had my suspicions due to the description/pricing, I also figured someone would have intel on them.      

Thanks!  
Now with more political fatigue.
6/3/2026 7:32:30 AM EDT
[#28]
Two things:

1. A 80* locking piece may not run in your gun at first.
When I had a PTR K, the 80 dropped in and the gun ran.
(I did have to adjust the bolt gap. See #2 below.)
My AP5-P initially wouldn’t run with an 80*.
I’ve got several hundred rounds through it now and recently tried it again.
After checking the gap.

If memory serves it would run 115, 124, and 147 gr. with a suppressor, but only 115 without.
It’s currently working with all modes and bullet weights running a 100* lp.
I think they ship with a 110 so the 100 is a little improvement if that’s true.
If you going to only shoot your gun suppressed the 80* will probably work fine.

Since I mainly shoot 115gr bullets it’s not a big deal for me.

2. Changing your locking piece will probably change your bolt gap.
It’s easy to measure.
If it’s out of spec it’s a bit of a pain to change.
You have to buy different rollers.
It’s odd how many MP5 owners never even check the gap.
I think there’s enough leeway in it most can get away with.
If the bolt gap is within the specified range, most of us would probably never shoot enough ammo to change it.
6/3/2026 7:40:37 AM EDT
[#29]
I agree with the guys suggesting the R9.
Mine has the YHM trilug adapter.
I like small suppressors on all guns.


There are are probably newer K suppressors that are lighter, but life is too short to run long suppressors.



Unless you are going for the absolute most quiet one you can find.

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