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11/3/2024 7:15:33 PM EDT
I am not going to renew my SOT next year and have several dealer samples I will need to sell. I have a few projects in the works and wondering if I need to finish them before I let ATF know I am not renewing or can I let them know, start selling my inventory while I finish my projects and paper and sell them?
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11/3/2024 8:27:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DogtownTom][Edited] [#1]
Do you think there is a requirement to notify them you aren't going to renew? There is not.
Sorry, misunderstood.
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11/3/2024 8:43:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DogtownTom:
Do you think there is a requirement to notify them you aren't going to renew? There is not.

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I will need to let them know so I can sell my post samples without needing a law letter
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11/4/2024 8:48:08 AM EDT
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You have to wait until 90 days before the expiration, then start selling.   You can't sell them before the 90 day window opens.
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11/4/2024 10:24:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SGT-Fish][Edited] [#4]
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Originally Posted By Jodan1776:
You have to wait until 90 days before the expiration, then start selling.   You can't sell them before the 90 day window opens.
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This is not necessarily true.

You can start your 90 day window at any time after notifying the ATF that you want to stop/cancel your SOT.


You can also advertise and sell the items ahead of time, and then file the form 3s once you are in your window. Of course this should be stated up-front in the ad and in a sales contract of sorts
11/4/2024 10:35:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: aod886][Edited] [#5]
As far as I know, the notification to the ATF is you checking box 19 "Discontinued Business" on the renewal paperwork.
11/4/2024 2:26:32 PM EDT
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From ATF as of this morning

Please ensure the Out of Business Letter contains the following criteria:

The letter must be signed and dated. The target date of when the business will be closed must be included within the body of the letter. The letter should not be submitted more than 90 days before going out of business. If outside the 90 days, provide additional information regarding the need for more time. Please provide on letterhead if one is maintained by the business. Reference the SOT(s) (EIN) going out of business. List all the FFL(s) associated to the SOT (EIN). List all the machineguns in the inventory that will be requested for transfer under 479.105(f).

 

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11/4/2024 2:29:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By aod886:
As far as I know, the notification to the ATF is you checking box 19 "Discontinued Business" on the renewal paperwork.
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See above about how to sell post samples without demo letter.
11/5/2024 5:42:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kested:
I am not going to renew my SOT next year and have several dealer samples I will need to sell. I have a few projects in the works and wondering if I need to finish them before I let ATF know I am not renewing or can I let them know, start selling my inventory while I finish my projects and paper and sell them?
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Are these projects registered in the NFRTR?
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11/6/2024 8:23:36 AM EDT
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Are these projects registered in the NFRTR?
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Originally Posted By Bubbles:
Originally Posted By kested:
I am not going to renew my SOT next year and have several dealer samples I will need to sell. I have a few projects in the works and wondering if I need to finish them before I let ATF know I am not renewing or can I let them know, start selling my inventory while I finish my projects and paper and sell them?

Are these projects registered in the NFRTR?



They will be once they are completed
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11/6/2024 9:07:50 AM EDT
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What all ya got
11/6/2024 9:18:55 AM EDT
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What all ya got
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11/6/2024 4:23:15 PM EDT
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They will be once they are completed
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Get them done ASAP.  ATF looks sideways at you when you dump a bunch of last minute eF2's on post samples and immediately go out of business.
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11/6/2024 9:28:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bubbles:

Get them done ASAP.  ATF looks sideways at you when you dump a bunch of last minute eF2's on post samples and immediately go out of business.
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Originally Posted By kested:
They will be once they are completed

Get them done ASAP.  ATF looks sideways at you when you dump a bunch of last minute eF2's on post samples and immediately go out of business.



Only a few that are not done yet
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1/13/2025 1:45:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Blackbeard91][Edited] [#14]
Not to hijack, but planning to not renew mine either and was wondering about if I was going to destroy/cut up any MGs I have. I know I have to write a letter to the ATF notifying them the MG has been destroyed, but do they require pictures/are they going to send a field agent out to inspect the destroyed parts or can I just chuck them/sell them as a parts kit?
1/13/2025 1:56:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
Not to hijack, but planning to not renew mine either and was wondering about if I was going to destroy/cut up any MGs I have. I know I have to write a letter to the ATF notifying them the MG has been destroyed, but do they require pictures/are they going to send a field agent out to inspect the destroyed parts or can I just chuck them/sell them as a parts kit?
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1. Why cut them up?

2. Just take some detailed pictures and keep them somewhere. Email them to yourself or something so you'll have them for a little while. If you are really worried, keep the cut section of the receiver that has the serial number as evidence.
1/13/2025 2:01:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SGT-Fish:


1. Why cut them up?

2. Just take some detailed pictures and keep them somewhere. Email them to yourself or something so you'll have them for a little while. If you are really worried, keep the cut section of the receiver that has the serial number as evidence.
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Either in case they don't sell prior to the SOT expiring, or to keep the parts kit to build as a semi auto later on.

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