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Originally Posted By fordkicksass: I've seen a few guys call fraud on IS, but lots of people wind up getting them and seem to like them. Sorry you had a shit experience, hopefully you get your $$ back or the laser you ordered. I got my money back through a chargeback, Invisible sight completely ignored my requests for a refund. Thats why I made this thread, his refusal to refund. Everything else can be forgiven but not that. Also, I’ve read elsewhere the turrets he uses are somogear which is why they have 2-3 moa of slop. For a 1k product he should be machining his own turrets. |
| He isn't a scammer but definitely a lier. I have had five separate IS NGALs all directly from him. I currently have a VCSEL IS-EG from him and a MK4 from him. The IS-EG i had to wait 6 months for and the MK4 a year and two days. both units are well built and i have almost 1K rounds through each. But dealing with the dudes lies is incredibly annoying and I can not say its worth it anymore with the IRIS coming out soon and the laserspeed M6 being amazing. Your best bet is no joke to send him one-two emails a day every day till you get a response. That what I did essentially harassing him and then I finally got my units. |
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Yeah, unfortunately, IS kinda sucks at delivery times. On the lying part. I think that is partially a cultural thing. When you ask an Oriental person "how long will this be?", I think "two weeks" means "I'll try and get it our as soon as I can". I finally had to cancel my order to get him to ship it. I would also say don't buy from IS until he gets his shit together. |
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Originally Posted By Diz: Yeah, unfortunately, IS kinda sucks at delivery times. On the lying part. I think that is partially a cultural thing. When you ask an Oriental person "how long will this be?", I think "two weeks" means "I'll try and get it our as soon as I can". I finally had to cancel my order to get him to ship it. I would also say don't buy from IS until he gets his shit together. Whatever it was, ignoring me asking for a refund wasn’t acceptable. I had to do a chargeback, his turrets have a lot of slop too, 2-3 moa and they’re somogear. For 1k that’s not acceptable |
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Originally Posted By Tan_416_guy: I’ve never had any turret issue too be honest I’ve never had ANY issue with an invisible sight product. The guy who runs the show isn’t Chinese he’s Belgian. You may want to check the moa adjustments on the turrets and see if they’re actually .5 moa adjustments and if all the clicks are .5 moa Because from what I’ve been told by many others is that the moa clicks are 2-3 in actuality(not consistently that either) but the laser will also shift before you hear the click. You can get 1.5 moa of travel from the dial turning just a little but not clicking. It’s not .5 moa adjustment for every click every time and it only adjusts when you hear the audible click. |
| My friend like I just said I don’t have those issues. And even if I did I wouldn’t care. All you have to do is go outside when it’s dark, turn on your optic and IR LASER point in air and merge IR LASER to the center dot/crosshair. What I do and it’s never given me an issue. But again, I have had five of his units not one has given me an issue. Hell the MK3 I had of his I dropped on my mcx from about 5ft up when I was spray painting it and it landed upside first. No issues with the unit and I put a couple thousand through that one. The units that fake optic airsoft company sell are NOT the same that he sells from his website.it sucks that you’re having issues with the guy but again we ALL have, the product that come directly from him ultimately for me has been worth it everytime. |
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Originally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: The NGAL knock offs are nice due to their shared features with the real deal one like visible override, but I think folks are just better off going with the Laserspeed M6TR even if it is significantly more expensive and with less features. The M6TR is cheaper than the IS MK4. I have owned an MK4 and it was really nice and close to my legit NGAL A1s. I didn't keep it long enough to shoot with or put it through its paces, but it seemed to be built well. I also own a couple M6TRs and, for the price, they are tough to beat. I have the attenuated version from Reddit and it's perfect -- no blooming, no artifacts, and no draining battery. My only gripes are with the ergo and function of the M6TR; there is a lot of room for improvement there. I currently have two FP FDE RAID XEs with green vis, two NGAL A1s, and two M6TRs. My RAIDs are my favorite LAMs followed closely by the NGALs and the M6TRs. |
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Originally Posted By ThatGuy01: Yeah, the turret thing doesn't hold water, but he definitely is a liar. I'm not gonna make an excuse for him, and I don't recommend ordering from him, despite loving my IS NGAL Mk4. I ordered in early December 2023 and he quoted me 6 - 8 weeks I believe. When that deadline came and went, I began pressuring him and he eventually shipped in June or July of 2024. I didn't keep it as I am not a big fan of clones and knock-offs, so I sold it here. I have been curious if the buyer still uses it, how it performs, and what his thoughts are after owning it for 5 months. My initial thoughts were that the device was built well and the IR designator was very bright; it caused artifacts in my PVS-31As from playing with the MK4 indoors under NODs. The artifacts went away with usage but probably not something you would want to do with any regularity. |
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| Ordered a IS EG ngal in july and every email reply is always shipping soon or need more time. My last email was to cancel my order. Was told its handed over to his shipping guy 2-3 weeks more. Was told if I cancel theres a 5% fee charged by the platform not by him. Not really sure what that means. Either way tired of waiting. Most of my form 4's didnt even take this long. . Heed all the warnings folks if you thinking about buying from found industries. Dont ignore the red flags. I herd some get great units and others got issues. I wouldnt know since i never got mine. Im sure if you wait long enough you will get one. My thing now is i already waited this long if it has any issues now long is that gonna take to get fixed. Think next time ill stick with more reputable company. |
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IS was on my radar for a while but at this point... I think you are unquestionably better off going with laserspeed or SMS. You can get products that are at least as well built, for the same or far less money, with no backorder BS. And best of all you don't have to walk around with a counterfeit copy on your rifle. |
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Wow you got yours quick, funny how I had wait until the end of November for him to ship my unit out. I guess you were less polite than I was, I was way too patient. We ordered at the same time. Anyway, he did ship, 10 days after I had gotten my money back and after I had already ordered an m6tr. Now he’s vaguely threatening me in email for what I believe is an inferior product, the turrets feel really bad and he didn’t include a dual switch. The vis laser also has artifacts. I’m not sending it back in the hopes of him giving a FULL refund, none of this 5 percent or shipping bs. He’s had more than enough time to make up that 5 percent through interest rates alone. Not my fault he shipped after I told him several times to give me a refund and after almost two weeks of me winning the chargeback. Not until it’s all resolved with the bank and even then I’m scared of shipping out of the country due to itar. He didn’t even bother to email me until almost two weeks after he filed a dispute himself and he used a third party read receipt service service. Very scummy imo. |
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