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Posted: 6/20/2024 2:44:06 PM EDT
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I've had good luck with White Oak SPR barrels although I know their collar shoulders are a little non-standard sometimes.
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Posted: 6/21/2024 6:50:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SchlaffTablett: I've had good luck with White Oak SPR barrels although I know their collar shoulders are a little non-standard sometimes. |
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Posted: 6/21/2024 7:58:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SchlaffTablett: I've had good luck with White Oak SPR barrels although I know their collar shoulders are a little non-standard sometimes. @SchlaffTablett sorted my WOA SPR barrel when the collar shoulder was a little off a few years back. 
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Posted: 6/21/2024 8:30:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmac7979: @SchlaffTablett sorted my WOA SPR barrel when the collar shoulder was a little off a few years back. https://i.imgur.com/gATcGJw.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmac7979: Originally Posted By SchlaffTablett: I've had good luck with White Oak SPR barrels although I know their collar shoulders are a little non-standard sometimes. @SchlaffTablett sorted my WOA SPR barrel when the collar shoulder was a little off a few years back. https://i.imgur.com/gATcGJw.jpg |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 6/22/2024 1:55:24 PM EDT
[#5]
The WOAs were updated to the correct shoulder location last year and I have to imagine they could verify over a phone order so you don’t get prior stock.
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Posted: 6/22/2024 2:20:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By metalsaber: What did you end up doing? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By metalsaber: Originally Posted By dmac7979: Originally Posted By SchlaffTablett: I've had good luck with White Oak SPR barrels although I know their collar shoulders are a little non-standard sometimes. @SchlaffTablett sorted my WOA SPR barrel when the collar shoulder was a little off a few years back. https://i.imgur.com/gATcGJw.jpg TBH I can't remember what we needed to do but I think it was just adjusting where the shoulder was. IIRC, I had to move it back a smidge to get the can to time correctly. |
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Posted: 6/22/2024 2:59:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SchlaffTablett: TBH I can't remember what we needed to do but I think it was just adjusting where the shoulder was. IIRC, I had to move it back a smidge to get the can to time correctly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SchlaffTablett: Originally Posted By metalsaber: Originally Posted By dmac7979: Originally Posted By SchlaffTablett: I've had good luck with White Oak SPR barrels although I know their collar shoulders are a little non-standard sometimes. @SchlaffTablett sorted my WOA SPR barrel when the collar shoulder was a little off a few years back. https://i.imgur.com/gATcGJw.jpg TBH I can't remember what we needed to do but I think it was just adjusting where the shoulder was. IIRC, I had to move it back a smidge to get the can to time correctly. |
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Posted: 6/22/2024 3:38:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SchlaffTablett: TBH I can't remember what we needed to do but I think it was just adjusting where the shoulder was. IIRC, I had to move it back a smidge to get the can to time correctly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SchlaffTablett: Originally Posted By metalsaber: Originally Posted By dmac7979: Originally Posted By SchlaffTablett: I've had good luck with White Oak SPR barrels although I know their collar shoulders are a little non-standard sometimes. @SchlaffTablett sorted my WOA SPR barrel when the collar shoulder was a little off a few years back. https://i.imgur.com/gATcGJw.jpg TBH I can't remember what we needed to do but I think it was just adjusting where the shoulder was. IIRC, I had to move it back a smidge to get the can to time correctly. I also don't remember, but the shoulder was off a little bit and I believe they moved it back. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 6/23/2024 1:21:59 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Three0h8: https://i.imgur.com/Qx4PFnJ.jpg As soon as I can get my hands on a brake this will get assembled. Then I finally get to have a conjugal visit with my AEM5. What length barrel is this? I have a 16” and I currently swapped to ris III after having ris II. I want a FF RAS or seeing if the 13.2” Larue rail will fit. |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 1:45:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Redhead45: What length barrel is this? I have a 16” and I currently swapped to ris III after having ris II. I want a FF RAS or seeing if the 13.2” Larue rail will fit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Redhead45: Originally Posted By Three0h8: https://i.imgur.com/Qx4PFnJ.jpg As soon as I can get my hands on a brake this will get assembled. Then I finally get to have a conjugal visit with my AEM5. What length barrel is this? I have a 16” and I currently swapped to ris III after having ris II. I want a FF RAS or seeing if the 13.2” Larue rail will fit. Looks like a 16" if I were a betting man. |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 4:44:27 PM EDT
[#11]
Certified my AEM5 today and did a test fit.
It rotates 6 1/4 turns before locking up to the collar. If I shim the brake out one full rotation, do you guys think that would be enough to get the 7 1/2 turns needed or should I shim the brake out two full turns? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/24/2024 5:05:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nobody69s: Certified my AEM5 today and did a test fit. It rotates 6 1/4 turns before locking up to the collar. If I shim the brake out one full rotation, do you guys think that would be enough to get the 7 1/2 turns needed or should I shim the brake out two full turns? What’s wrong with 6 1/4 turns? I’d probably leave as is assuming the brake is timed properly. |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 5:14:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MK3110: What's wrong with 6 1/4 turns? I'd probably leave as is assuming the brake is timed properly. I've read that Mr. Allen says the 7 1/2 rotations is ideal. I haven't rocksett my brake yet, just torqued lightly with a wrench. |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 5:21:26 PM EDT
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Been a while since I've read this thread.
Ordered my second AEM5 today, the Trajectory one out of Utah... I expect it to be just as good as the one I got from Ron. Let's see how long this Form 4 takes... 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 6/24/2024 5:50:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nobody69s: Certified my AEM5 today and did a test fit. It rotates 6 1/4 turns before locking up to the collar. If I shim the brake out one full rotation, do you guys think that would be enough to get the 7 1/2 turns needed or should I shim the brake out two full turns? 6 to 8 turns is fine. |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 6:01:24 PM EDT
[#16]
Thanks Ron.
I appreciate the response! |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 6:05:02 PM EDT
[#17]
What would be the best AE can to use for 6 ARC? Building a Mk12 Mod H in 6 ARC and would like to stay with the original lines of the build - AEM5-30k or ?
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Posted: 6/24/2024 10:46:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oldbrowndog: What would be the best AE can to use for 6 ARC? Building a Mk12 Mod H in 6 ARC and would like to stay with the original lines of the build - AEM5-30k or ? A 6.5bore aem5 would be a sweet addition to the lineup |
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Posted: 6/25/2024 1:19:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: A 6.5bore aem5 would be a sweet addition to the lineup Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Originally Posted By oldbrowndog: What would be the best AE can to use for 6 ARC? Building a Mk12 Mod H in 6 ARC and would like to stay with the original lines of the build - AEM5-30k or ? A 6.5bore aem5 would be a sweet addition to the lineup There is already a variant out there with 6.5 bore:  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/25/2024 8:55:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote: There is already a variant out there with 6.5 bore: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/202402/AEM5_Cal_1_png-3250092.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/202402/AEM5_Cal_2_png-3250093.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote: Originally Posted By bradpierson26: Originally Posted By oldbrowndog: What would be the best AE can to use for 6 ARC? Building a Mk12 Mod H in 6 ARC and would like to stay with the original lines of the build - AEM5-30k or ? A 6.5bore aem5 would be a sweet addition to the lineup There is already a variant out there with 6.5 bore: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/202402/AEM5_Cal_1_png-3250092.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/202402/AEM5_Cal_2_png-3250093.JPG I didn’t think they had been produced in years though |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 6/25/2024 9:13:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: I didn’t think they had been produced in years though They can be made. Just need to ask. |
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Posted: 6/25/2024 9:17:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: They can be made. Just need to ask. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: Originally Posted By bradpierson26: I didn’t think they had been produced in years though They can be made. Just need to ask. That’s why you’re one of the best the industry has ever seen 
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Posted: 6/26/2024 9:57:36 AM EDT
[#23]
@SchlaffTablett
Any clue if your gas blocks would work with an intermediate gas length and KAC FF RAS Long? |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:07:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DackJaniels: @SchlaffTablett Any clue if your gas blocks would work with an intermediate gas length and KAC FF RAS Long? There is a couple inch difference there so no. I designed the block specifically for the medium RAS (p/n 99166) with mid gas though. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 11:25:56 AM EDT
[#25]
If anyone is looking for an AEM5 or AEM5-30 in black or FDE, modernwarriors has a few in stock. Save 20% with code Freedom.
Knocks about 150 bucks off |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 4:18:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SaturationTech: If anyone is looking for an AEM5 or AEM5-30 in black or FDE, modernwarriors has a few in stock. Save 20% with code Freedom. Knocks about 150 bucks off Damn.. that's tempting |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/1/2024 4:22:23 PM EDT
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Hey guys, I ended up buying an AEM3 as my first suppressor and I’m looking to mount it onto my KAC SR-15 mod 2 without modifying the barrel profile as the contour is already on the skinny side for my taste. My question is, is there anybody I could contact about making a custom 1 piece over the barrel B length brake/collar that would be compatible with my barrel profile as well?
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SC, USA
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Posted: 7/1/2024 9:25:50 PM EDT
[#28]
Has anyone tried one of the Allegheny gas blocks with a Hodge 13.65 handguard? I'm thinking it will be close, but possibly doable. Also, what barrels are you using to cut down to the required ~16.5" length? And any gas port modification?
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Posted: 7/2/2024 7:43:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SaturationTech: If anyone is looking for an AEM5 or AEM5-30 in black or FDE, modernwarriors has a few in stock. Save 20% with code Freedom. Knocks about 150 bucks off 
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SC, USA
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Posted: 7/2/2024 10:58:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dblazevich]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cdholmes: Has anyone tried one of the Allegheny gas blocks with a Hodge 13.65 handguard? I'm thinking it will be close, but possibly doable. Also, what barrels are you using to cut down to the required ~16.5" length? And any gas port modification? If my measurements are right you'll have 0.15" of the 1.1" gas block sticking out from under the handguards which is going to be super tight. I'll take a measurement to see if that's a no-go or not. PM me if I don't get back to you You could probably shave off a bit from the front of the handguard if it's too close I'm also looking for barrel options to cut down to that 16.5" . If you want to shoot unsuppressed you'll very likely need to adjust the gas port, but I haven't found any size recommendations yet |
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Posted: 7/2/2024 12:12:31 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By metalsaber: i hope they are legit. just placed an order. I picked up a Tirant 9HD for 450 bucks from them and a Kriss Vector for 999. Absolutely no issues. |
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Posted: 7/2/2024 1:27:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SaturationTech: I picked up a Tirant 9HD for 450 bucks from them and a Kriss Vector for 999. Absolutely no issues. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SaturationTech: Originally Posted By metalsaber: i hope they are legit. just placed an order. I picked up a Tirant 9HD for 450 bucks from them and a Kriss Vector for 999. Absolutely no issues. |
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Posted: 7/2/2024 11:18:21 PM EDT
[#33]
I forgot to update this thread but Allegheny Arms did the work on my Colt and I couldn't be happier.
Now for the SBR paperwork.  Attached File |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 7/2/2024 11:27:22 PM EDT
[#34]
Thanks Ron for the custom collar for perfect fitment.
Centurion 16" Mk12 barrel and tabbed gas block, Larue 13.2 quad, Mk5 3.6-18 in Badger mount.  
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Posted: 7/3/2024 7:47:22 AM EDT
[#35]
A good day yesterday. The Custom uppers I made in 2007 discussed several pages back - I was able to get one back in my hands I sold locally.
2007    Started with 20" Obermeyer SS barrels with .308 Obermeyer chambers. John Holliger contoured them and we moved the gas port 2" forward. I had DD make a run of 14.0 AR10 LITE Rails to go with them. I'll likely cannibalize a few other builds to get this one together sooner than later. |
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Posted: 7/3/2024 12:35:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2024 12:44:43 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: A good day yesterday. The Custom uppers I made in 2007 discussed several pages back - I was able to get one back in my hands I sold locally. 2007 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/2007-3194575.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/20240702_184541-3256884.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/20240702_184602-3256885.jpg Started with 20" Obermeyer SS barrels with .308 Obermeyer chambers. John Holliger contoured them and we moved the gas port 2" forward. I had DD make a run of 14.0 AR10 LITE Rails to go with them. I'll likely cannibalize a few other builds to get this one together sooner than later. That’s pretty rad. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 7/3/2024 3:10:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dblazevich]
[#38]
@k31user
Hey Ron, I am trying to put an AEM5 on a Criterion Core barrel - - if you aren't familiar, it has a thin, tapered profile with a 0.625 gas block diameter and the barrel is even thinner between the gas block lands and the threads There aren't any steps on the barrel other than the front of the gas block lands Is it possible to make a custom collar that sits in front of the step? How thin of a barrel can you make a collar? Edit: I guess the same question goes out the @bigbore Your website says you can't do all pencil barrels. How thin does the barrel need to be before you're no longer able to contour / make a collar? |
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Posted: 7/3/2024 4:55:43 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dblazevich: Edit: I guess the same question goes out the @bigbore Your website says you can't do all pencil barrels. How thin does the barrel need to be before you're no longer able to contour / make a collar? The barrel OD where the collar goes needs to be at least .080 more than the OD of the barrel threads. IMO, sell it and buy another barrel. |
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Posted: 7/5/2024 3:19:36 PM EDT
[#40]
Got it together and spent 7 hours driving for 3 hours of shooting. It shoots great out to 1k. I don't think the last guy put 100rds through it. It's a favorite of mine now(again)
 
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Posted: 7/5/2024 4:06:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dblazevich: @k31user Hey Ron, I am trying to put an AEM5 on a Criterion Core barrel - - if you aren't familiar, it has a thin, tapered profile with a 0.625 gas block diameter and the barrel is even thinner between the gas block lands and the threads There aren't any steps on the barrel other than the front of the gas block lands Is it possible to make a custom collar that sits in front of the step? How thin of a barrel can you make a collar? Edit: I guess the same question goes out the @bigbore Your website says you can't do all pencil barrels. How thin does the barrel need to be before you're no longer able to contour / make a collar? You can do a collar for that but with that thin a barrel it's going to look a little goofy with the can off of it and the collar itself is going to be a pretty substantial hunk of steel. What barrel length and gas system are you using? |
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Posted: 7/5/2024 4:17:36 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Got it together and spent 7 hours driving for 3 hours of shooting. It shoots great out to 1k. I don't think the last guy put 100rds through it. It's a favorite of mine now(again) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/1000012392-3259011.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/1000012394-3259018.jpg Cool property |
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Posted: 7/5/2024 4:18:23 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: Got it together and spent 7 hours driving for 3 hours of shooting. It shoots great out to 1k. I don't think the last guy put 100rds through it. It's a favorite of mine now(again) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/1000012392-3259011.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/1000012394-3259018.jpg Looks awesome! |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 7/5/2024 5:59:45 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SchlaffTablett: You can do a collar for that but with that thin a barrel it's going to look a little goofy with the can off of it and the collar itself is going to be a pretty substantial hunk of steel. What barrel length and gas system are you using? 16", trying to decide between the stock 16 barrel with mid length gas or getting an 18" chopped down with rifle length I don't care as much about the weird look, I mostly like the balance of accuracy and weight of the core barrels, but don't want to use the Otter Creek muzzle device to mount the suppressor |
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Posted: 7/5/2024 6:09:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigbore]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nobody69s: I'd pay good money to have access to 1,000 yards. Looks awesome! It goes out to a mile. - http://thundervalleyprecision.com/ The 18" plates at a mile are challenging, and when its open at night even more so. (OPS INC 3rd model on my 300WM) 
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Posted: 7/6/2024 1:30:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dblazevich: 16", trying to decide between the stock 16 barrel with mid length gas or getting an 18" chopped down with rifle length I don't care as much about the weird look, I mostly like the balance of accuracy and weight of the core barrels, but don't want to use the Otter Creek muzzle device to mount the suppressor Either way, it's tough to go wrong. If you're using our gas blocks you can do a ~16.5" rifle gas or ~13.5" middy. With the profile of the Core, that would eliminate pretty much all barrel whip with the can installed. |
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Posted: 7/6/2024 3:46:08 PM EDT
[#47]
I would definitely do the 16.5 rifle gas.
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SC, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2024 3:52:14 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SchlaffTablett: Either way, it's tough to go wrong. If you're using our gas blocks you can do a ~16.5" rifle gas or ~13.5" middy. With the profile of the Core, that would eliminate pretty much all barrel whip with the can installed. Problem is the core doesn't have a 0.75" gas block, or else that would be problem solved for me. Would it be possible to make a 0.625 ID collar that seats up against the gas block instead of relying on a barrel step? |
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Posted: 7/6/2024 4:08:00 PM EDT
[#49]
Allegheny said they were going to do some .625 gas blocks.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2024 4:51:48 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dblazevich: Problem is the core doesn't have a 0.75" gas block, or else that would be problem solved for me. Would it be possible to make a 0.625 ID collar that seats up against the gas block instead of relying on a barrel step? Just buy a different barrel man. |
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