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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:09:38 PM EDT
I have a Trijicon MK3-60 thermal so, I am good there. What I don't have is a more general-purpose NV solution to complement my thermal scope. I tried my friend's PVS-7B's, modern spec new build but, I wear glasses and those simply were not a reasonable solution for me. Plus I am not sold on a binocular-style solution for my usage and would like a bit less bulk and something I could use on a lightweight rimfire rifle (i.e. Ruger 10/22 or similar) to shoot rodents and predators on my farm at ~50 yards or less.
I have no heartburn over using GREEN night vision. I tend to think I will get better value and performance from good GREEN tubes over competing to get the more trendy (for most people) white tubes. My usage will never be long enough that eye fatigue and similar issues due to image color would be a factor. What I need is good resolution to clearly identify a target when mounted to my rifle and, the ability for general surveillance and identification for situational awareness. I have no intentions of doing things like driving at night with them or other non-standard things for Social Media likes or bragging rights! I live in Texas, own property in Oklahoma, and travel CONUS a lot overlanding and saltwater surf fishing any chance I get. When traveling, I want to make sure I see homeless, drugged, or mentally disturbed people and wildlife before I make camp. My friend is into astronomy, so I could see using it some when I am out with him looking at the night sky. $2500 isn't an absolute hard limit but, a "target price" so, if $3500 for example is significantly better, that is an option, especially if I need the additional performance. Mounts, helmets, and other support gear is a separate expense from the 'base' PVS-14 unit. Is a green "Onyx" P-43 ECHO spec tube unit a good place to start? I realize FOM is the threshold most people use looking for Night Vision but, I think EBI and Halo are important in my application as well but, I don't need crazy specs. I am assuming SNR and Fixed Pattern Noise are not a big concern in today's market. So, from the myriad of options in the market place, where do I find the better values today from reputable sources? TNVC and JRH are well known entities but, there are likely others out there that may be a good source for me to consider too. Regarding the used market, I am a bit leery there as I don't know enough to spot a good deal, a bad unit, and a myriad of other issues that come with experience so I am leaning heavily towards a real storefront business that will support me long term. TIA, Sid |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:32:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: chosos]
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that JRH sale is pretty solid on those PVS-14's and as a site sponsor, JRH has been great to buy from.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2024 3:08:58 PM EDT
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I can second that JRH is a great outfit. Love my WP 14.
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Posted: 8/28/2024 3:12:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bluedog82: I can second that JRH is a great outfit. Love my WP 14. I'lll 3rd that myself. You'll probably do much better than you think for that price too man! |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 3:33:00 PM EDT
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Thanks for the comments everyone!
Unfortunately we sold out of the last dozen Echo spec Green phosphor 14s just a bit ago. However we do have PVS14 WP3 SLH mid grade units starting at $2799. These feature the Elbit Systems of America SLH mid grade White phosphor tubes. If your looking for Unfilmed WP we have those starting at $3399. Both in stock and shipping out same day you order- order before 1pm Eastern for same day shipping. Feel free to call, email (quickest) or PM with any questions. 32 years in business. Appreciate your business. Robert |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:28:53 PM EDT
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Bummer missing out on those Green PVS-14's.
How do the SLH versions compare to the Un-Filmed versions? |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 8:06:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sidpost: Bummer missing out on those Green PVS-14's. How do the SLH versions compare to the Un-Filmed versions? The SLH mid grade comes from Elbit Systems and are thin filmed tubes. Lots of good choices in stock for that grade right now, but we also have 20UM grade unfilmed WP from L3 Harris in stock also. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/29/2024 7:01:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sidpost: I have a Trijicon MK3-60 thermal so, I am good there. What I don't have is a more general-purpose NV solution to complement my thermal scope. I tried my friend's PVS-7B's, modern spec new build but, I wear glasses and those simply were not a reasonable solution for me. Plus I am not sold on a binocular-style solution for my usage and would like a bit less bulk and something I could use on a lightweight rimfire rifle (i.e. Ruger 10/22 or similar) to shoot rodents and predators on my farm at ~50 yards or less. I have no heartburn over using GREEN night vision. I tend to think I will get better value and performance from good GREEN tubes over competing to get the more trendy (for most people) white tubes. My usage will never be long enough that eye fatigue and similar issues due to image color would be a factor. What I need is good resolution to clearly identify a target when mounted to my rifle and, the ability for general surveillance and identification for situational awareness. I have no intentions of doing things like driving at night with them or other non-standard things for Social Media likes or bragging rights! I live in Texas, own property in Oklahoma, and travel CONUS a lot overlanding and saltwater surf fishing any chance I get. When traveling, I want to make sure I see homeless, drugged, or mentally disturbed people and wildlife before I make camp. My friend is into astronomy, so I could see using it some when I am out with him looking at the night sky. $2500 isn't an absolute hard limit but, a "target price" so, if $3500 for example is significantly better, that is an option, especially if I need the additional performance. Mounts, helmets, and other support gear is a separate expense from the 'base' PVS-14 unit. Is a green "Onyx" P-43 ECHO spec tube unit a good place to start? I realize FOM is the threshold most people use looking for Night Vision but, I think EBI and Halo are important in my application as well but, I don't need crazy specs. I am assuming SNR and Fixed Pattern Noise are not a big concern in today's market. So, from the myriad of options in the market place, where do I find the better values today from reputable sources? TNVC and JRH are well known entities but, there are likely others out there that may be a good source for me to consider too. Regarding the used market, I am a bit leery there as I don't know enough to spot a good deal, a bad unit, and a myriad of other issues that come with experience so I am leaning heavily towards a real storefront business that will support me long term. TIA, Sid I’ve heard good things about Custom Nightvision. I got mine used, but it was a friend of a friend type deal. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 7:34:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lowdown3: The SLH mid grade comes from Elbit Systems and are thin filmed tubes. Lots of good choices in stock for that grade right now, but we also have 20UM grade unfilmed WP from L3 Harris in stock also. I prefer WP over Green any day of week. In fact, purchased a GP PVS14, used it 3 weeks and returned it for full value because it wasn't as vivid as WP. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 7:49:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TNVC_Will]
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Here's another consideration - the Night Goggles Labor Day Sale kicked off
 https://www.ar15.com/forums/Industry/NIGHT-GOGGLES-LABOR-DAY-SALE-/209-305971/ https://www.ar15.com/forums/Industry/NG-PVS-14-MNVD-Elbit-Gen-3-MIL-SPEC-White-Phosphor-Night-Vision-/683-305970/ |
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Posted: 8/30/2024 10:55:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lowdown3: However we do have PVS14 WP3 SLH mid grade units starting at $2799. These feature the Elbit Systems of America SLH mid grade White phosphor tubes. If you're looking for Unfilmed WP we have those starting at $3399. OP, this is the best deal you're going to find for a new Gen 3 PVS14 from a reputable dealer. At that price, there's no reason look for Gen 2 Photonis. $3400 is also the best deal you'll find on Unfilmed if you want the best performance. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2024 12:13:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chosos: that JRH sale is pretty solid on those PVS-14's and as a site sponsor, JRH has been great to buy from. ^^^^^This, This, and did I mention THIS^^^^^ |
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Posted: 8/31/2024 12:21:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: rDigital]
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Nothing but good things to say about JRH and Robert.
He put me in WP Unfilmed PVS-14 gang 2 weeks ago. 0.3 EBI 2390 FOM 33.2 SNR  |
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