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Posted: 7/6/2024 10:31:36 AM EDT
Gents, I am looking at upgrading to a new set of duals. The company offers two different housings that are approx 1k$ different.
My question is, would it be worth the extra money to get the more expensive housing? https://usnightvision.com/bnvd-1431-mkii-dual-tube-articulating-night-vision-goggle-white-phosphor/ https://usnightvision.com/arnvg-gen-iii-white-phosphor-articulating-dual-tube-night-vision-goggle-w-free-wilcox-g24/ |
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Posted: 7/6/2024 11:01:22 AM EDT
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ARNVG is going to be the better housing of the two, hands down.
The other one is the Chinese copy of the 1431, more than a few problems there. |
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Posted: 7/6/2024 11:13:06 AM EDT
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Ok. Thanks.
I thought all of his stuff was us made but I must be wrong. |
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Posted: 7/6/2024 12:43:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX: Gents, I am looking at upgrading to a new set of duals. The company offers two different housings that are approx 1k$ different. My question is, would it be worth the extra money to get the more expensive housing? https://usnightvision.com/bnvd-1431-mkii-dual-tube-articulating-night-vision-goggle-white-phosphor/ https://usnightvision.com/arnvg-gen-iii-white-phosphor-articulating-dual-tube-night-vision-goggle-w-free-wilcox-g24/ There has been a good bit of technical discussion on both devices in the past, here is something on the 1431 recently (and why it's not a good consideration apart from country of origin/L3 IP theft) https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/BNVD-1431-MK2-vs-LLUL-21-vs-2-Tantos/18-551603/ As far as the RNVG-A (or ARNVG as they are commonly referred to), AB Night Vision did a great job applying their classic aluminum construction/machining techniques that they are well known for, to an articulating design. You really can't go wrong with them. As with all things, you get what you pay for, especially when it comes to night vision housing design. |
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Posted: 7/6/2024 12:46:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC_Riley: There has been a good bit of technical discussion on both devices in the past, here is something on the 1431 recently (and why it's not a good consideration apart from country of origin/L3 IP theft) https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/BNVD-1431-MK2-vs-LLUL-21-vs-2-Tantos/18-551603/ As far as the RNVG-A (or ARNVG as they are commonly referred to), AB Night Vision did a great job applying their classic aluminum construction/machining techniques that they are well known for, to an articulating design. You really can't go wrong with them. As with all things, you get what you pay for, especially when it comes to night vision housing design. Thank you. My budget is around 7500-8k for a new set. I am not get on usnv, I just chatted with the owner and had a pleasant conversation with him. I wish I had the coin for a more expensive set but it's just not in the cards. |
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Posted: 7/6/2024 3:48:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: Thank you. My budget is around 7500-8k for a new set. I am not get on usnv, I just chatted with the owner and had a pleasant conversation with him. I wish I had the coin for a more expensive set but it's just not in the cards. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: Originally Posted By TNVC_Riley: There has been a good bit of technical discussion on both devices in the past, here is something on the 1431 recently (and why it's not a good consideration apart from country of origin/L3 IP theft) https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/BNVD-1431-MK2-vs-LLUL-21-vs-2-Tantos/18-551603/ As far as the RNVG-A (or ARNVG as they are commonly referred to), AB Night Vision did a great job applying their classic aluminum construction/machining techniques that they are well known for, to an articulating design. You really can't go wrong with them. As with all things, you get what you pay for, especially when it comes to night vision housing design. Thank you. My budget is around 7500-8k for a new set. I am not get on usnv, I just chatted with the owner and had a pleasant conversation with him. I wish I had the coin for a more expensive set but it's just not in the cards. @TOTHEMAX Deviating from the couple housings you seemed interested in, we still have one Manual Gain DTNVS (DTNVS-MG) available with lightweight RPO lenses: https://tnvc.com/shop/crazy-vics-mean-green-t-n-v-dtnvs-mg-w-rpo-l3harris-18um-omni-viii-filmed-green-phoshor/ That would get you into one of the newest but most reputable housings, with manual gain, and very durable yet light weight at around 15.5oz~ all within your stated budget. If you want to forgo the Manual gain and lens upgrade in favor of better tubes, Night Goggles has these to offer:https://www.nightgoggles.com/shop/night-vision/ng-dtnvs-with-mil-spec-l3harris-unfilmed-white-phosphor/ Having owned and used DTNVS fairly extensively myself, I can definitely recommend them. It's a very proven housing that's been around quite a while.  Also, even without light weight lenses the standard DTNVS is plenty light weight as-is (even with the addition of Ipd stops) 
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Posted: 7/6/2024 6:32:37 PM EDT
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Thanks
I would want to stick with white as that's what I currently have and I really like. That would be my only true request. |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 11:21:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: Ok. Thanks. I thought all of his stuff was us made but I must be wrong. Another excellent US made option is the Katana R- the new ruggedized Katana. Very popular unit. Lifetime warranty on housing. |
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Posted: 7/8/2024 8:11:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lowdown3: Another excellent US made option is the Katana R- the new ruggedized Katana. Very popular unit. Lifetime warranty on housing. Definitely a very ruggedized slick looking system. Nocturn has once again knocked it out of the park with the Katana R |
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Posted: 7/8/2024 10:08:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: Thanks I would want to stick with white as that's what I currently have and I really like. That would be my only true request. Also, take a look at these: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Industry/TNVC-Aviation-Grade-L3Harris-2376-FOM-Unfilmed-WP-ASU-M949-Refurbished--IN-STOCK-/209-305702/ There are pluses and minuses to anvis goggles but in my own personal experience it's a great housing if you're not doing crazy stuff with a higher likelihood of causing damage. You will need a ball detent helmet mount and remote battery pack. I love the anvis ball-detent interface because it is the only truly trustworthy and reliable auto on/off system. |
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Posted: 7/9/2024 6:33:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC_Will: Also, take a look at these: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Industry/TNVC-Aviation-Grade-L3Harris-2376-FOM-Unfilmed-WP-ASU-M949-Refurbished--IN-STOCK-/209-305702/ There are pluses and minuses to anvis goggles but in my own personal experience it's a great housing if you're not doing crazy stuff with a higher likelihood of causing damage. You will need a ball detent helmet mount and remote battery pack. I love the anvis ball-detent interface because it is the only truly trustworthy and reliable auto on/off system. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC_Will: Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX: Thanks I would want to stick with white as that's what I currently have and I really like. That would be my only true request. Also, take a look at these: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Industry/TNVC-Aviation-Grade-L3Harris-2376-FOM-Unfilmed-WP-ASU-M949-Refurbished--IN-STOCK-/209-305702/ There are pluses and minuses to anvis goggles but in my own personal experience it's a great housing if you're not doing crazy stuff with a higher likelihood of causing damage. You will need a ball detent helmet mount and remote battery pack. I love the anvis ball-detent interface because it is the only truly trustworthy and reliable auto on/off system. I'll have to second Will's opinion here. Nice light weight dead nuts simple. They aren't as fragile as some people make them out to be. I used to make a PAS Bridge reinforcement piece that made them much more durable. I don't make them anymore FYI. The RNVG is what the Anvis system should have been IMHO. |
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Posted: 7/9/2024 6:55:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wjoutlaw: I'll have to second Will's opinion here. Nice light weight dead nuts simple. They aren't as fragile as some people make them out to be. I used to make a PAS Bridge reinforcement piece that made them much more durable. I don't make them anymore FYI. The RNVG is what the Anvis system should have been IMHO. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wjoutlaw: Originally Posted By TNVC_Will: Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX: Thanks I would want to stick with white as that's what I currently have and I really like. That would be my only true request. Also, take a look at these: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Industry/TNVC-Aviation-Grade-L3Harris-2376-FOM-Unfilmed-WP-ASU-M949-Refurbished--IN-STOCK-/209-305702/ There are pluses and minuses to anvis goggles but in my own personal experience it's a great housing if you're not doing crazy stuff with a higher likelihood of causing damage. You will need a ball detent helmet mount and remote battery pack. I love the anvis ball-detent interface because it is the only truly trustworthy and reliable auto on/off system. I'll have to second Will's opinion here. Nice light weight dead nuts simple. They aren't as fragile as some people make them out to be. I used to make a PAS Bridge reinforcement piece that made them much more durable. I don't make them anymore FYI. The RNVG is what the Anvis system should have been IMHO. Well said. |
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Posted: 7/9/2024 6:57:35 PM EDT
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Thanks for the recommendation but I think after owning bnvds that articulate up and out of the way it would be hard to go to a ridgid system.
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Posted: 7/9/2024 7:25:29 PM EDT
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Spend the extra $ and get the ARNVG. You're supporting an American company and American jobs. It is also a premium machined housing and AB NV has been absolutely awesome with support for years. It would be a hard move going from articulating back to a fixed bridge simply for the stow height. I also have concerns over Argus products as the industry is getting incredibly restrictive over imported Chinese devices - I would just have concerns about long term support or parts availability.
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Posted: 7/9/2024 11:12:35 PM EDT
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Thanks.
I agree the arnvgs are leading the pack for my budget. |
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