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Posted: 1/14/2026 8:01:15 PM EDT
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I have an old 870 police magnum that I got super cheap a long time ago. I have a spare barrel that is a bit rusty, and a good candidate to chop. Now that tax stamps are free, I'm thinking of registering it and hack sawing my spare barrel. I love the look of the vintage top folding 870 stocks. Does anyone make a reasonably close copy of those? |
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In speaking of factory folders cracking, I found one post from about a year ago where someone modded an airsoft copy of the remington to work on a real shotgun. Without a user name, i can't find out if it worked long term. If you're reading this, let me know how it went! |
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Originally Posted By dfariswheel: Gun Parts Corp..... https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1236500a This is probably better then the original factory folder that had problems with the plastic pistol grip cracking. Looks like the ATI pictures....no sense over paying |
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Originally Posted By TheDirtyLarry: There's more info behind the modified airsoft stock I remember several posts about it. I seem to remember him testing it out and it doing pretty good. I sent you an IM about an ATI stock. I've tried the ATI and the Remington top folder and really like them both. That was me. I modified it to work on an 870 and threw it on a JTS 870 that I picked up for $75! I didn't like the JTS trigger group and added an older used Police 870 trigger group in it but its actually a reasonable 870. Chicom 870s aren't too bad. Anyway the Airsoft stock is still holding up. 200-300 rds - Mostly Federal bulk pack Walmart - but also cheap Rio buck - The parts on it are steel, but not as high quality as the real Remington Top folders I have but surprisingly okay. The plastic is not as dense as the original but I reinforced the entire inside of the hollow grip with fiberglass and brass rod for strength at the 90 degree area. Frankly My epoxy and fill method works but I'd think someone might be able to 3D Print a grip to work with the Chinese/Taiwanese parts. The problem with the copy I got is it is close to the 870 receiver shape at the front where it attached to the receiver but the through hole for a bolt screw and how it mates to the receiver. I epoxied putty a sleeve inside the grip for a 1/4-28 screw/bolt to slide in and simultaneously used the epoxy putty to fill in the areas between the receiver (with recoil plate). Carefully attaching the bolt so it mates at the right angle. Use petroleum jelly as a release agent on the receiver - the putty is easy to work with without being too sticky and can be molded well. I used some Nu-Metal epoxy putty which seems incredibly hard when cured and doesn't seem to crack (yet). It must be warm to mold the two parts together - in January weather it will be hard to mix easy. I use mostly cheap crap bulk ammo in it. My Son In Law Likes Blasting things with it with cheap bird shot and wants me to make him one. So My Son in Law likes it so much I was tempted to get another - they are like $30 But shipping with tariffs makes it more like $120!!! I literally just tried it on my other 14" SBS -Some thin foam padding on it around the cheek weld actually helps. These are not comfortable but I have other guns for comfort.  If I get another for making one for my Son in Law, I might make some 3D Print - I know a guy that can do higher end 3D printing. Not sure what is stronger 3D or metal and epoxy???? If I do an Epoxy conversion - Do you want me to make more of a step by step? Its not rocket science |
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Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Here are some fresh pics of the original conversion. I got the stock at Sixmm airsoft store.https://www.sixmm.com/products/cyma-folding-stock-w-butt-stockfor-cyma-m870-shotgun?variant=40050603688097 |
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Alternative to ordering from Asia is to order from Evike - They have the CYMA M870 airsoft with the same stock for $125. Give the shotgun minus the grip to a kid, keep the stock to modify. https://www.evike.com/products/63537/?srsltid=AfmBOoqIFfRREFz8jkn-nt8ps3VBkVx5LnvSleYJHnFO__iFtct5CUja |
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Originally Posted By cherenkov: If I do an Epoxy conversion - Do you want me to make more of a step by step? Its not rocket science This gun will mostly be a fun gun. I usually only shoot reduced loads when I shoot buck and slugs. I think what you describe should handle it. |
Keep an eye on Numrich for the original top folder parts, they pop up every now and then. I paid under $200 for all the parts needed to assemble mine. I’ve been meaning to try modifying an airsoft stock also, but haven’t gotten around to it. As others have said the top folder isn’t a comfortable stock, but it’s honestly not that bad. It was never meant to be comfortable. I actually enjoy shooting mine and have been since the 90s. It doesn’t look as good as the original Remington top folder, but the Choate top folder is also a nice stock.  |
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Originally Posted By reccerecon: Keep an eye on Numrich for the original top folder parts, they pop up every now and then. I paid under $200 for all the parts needed to assemble mine. I’ve been meaning to try modifying an airsoft stock also, but haven’t gotten around to it. As others have said the top folder isn’t a comfortable stock, but it’s honestly not that bad. It was never meant to be comfortable. I actually enjoy shooting mine and have been since the 90s. It doesn’t look as good as the original Remington top folder, but the Choate top folder is also a nice stock. https://i.postimg.cc/NG7W8yYT/IMG_1559.jpg Yes - Numrich has some original parts like the screw bolt for adding the swivel to the hinge. Funny you mention the chaote top folder, I was just looking at one - I have a Mossberg Super Shorty AOW and I am thinking of adding some sort of compact stock that doesn't take away from the overall compactness and PG shooting when folded. I had no idea Choate was still making them - They do. |
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Originally Posted By Couch-Commando: Super dumb question time; the wood stock is held in by Philips screws, right? I can't seem to get any bite with screw drivers. If it is a flathead, you have to be very careful not to let the head of flathead driver slip off (if it’s tight and you’re breaking it loose) as this can crack the stock in an instant. There are special bits with a round “collar” to prevent this. You can also use a little piece of seamless tubing (with the correct I.D. and O.D.) or just a plain screwdriver and be super careful. (I like the giant screwdrivers where the whole shaft is hexagonal. That way I can clamp a crescent wrench or vice grips to rotate for extra torque.) Shine a light into the stock and look, because it may be an Allen/hex head. I don’t recall ever seeing a Phillips head on a Remington stock bolt. |
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Originally Posted By KitBuilder: On the older 870s it was always a flathead. (I haven’t seen a current-production 870 in many years.) If it is a flathead, you have to be very careful not to let the head of flathead driver slip off (if it’s tight and you’re breaking it loose) as this can crack the stock in an instant. There are special bits with a round “collar” to prevent this. You can also use a little piece of seamless tubing (with the correct I.D. and O.D.) or just a plain screwdriver and be super careful. (I like the giant screwdrivers where the whole shaft is hexagonal. That way I can clamp a crescent wrench or vice grips to rotate for extra torque.) Shine a light into the stock and look, because it may be an Allen/hex head. I don’t recall ever seeing a Phillips head on a Remington stock bolt. +1 If you have a vice, clamp it. shine a light. They were usually = flat head screwdriver, A good giant screwdriver as suggested above . It might be a socket, as a replacement bolt or stock might have come with - Its just 1/4-28 thread pitch so common enough it could have been replaced. a socket with an extension to each in there. |
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Originally Posted By cherenkov: If you are meaning the recoil pad screws by chance? - there are two - usually Phillips, hidden by the rubber. they can sometimes be stuck in there. Try both types of screwdrivers if you don't get a purchase. |
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Originally Posted By cherenkov: If you are meaning the recoil pad screws by chance? - there are two - usually Phillips, hidden by the rubber. they can sometimes be stuck in there. Try both types of screwdrivers if you don't get a purchase. I always tried Phillips first, then flathead if it didn’t engage. For this job, you’ll want a long bit with a round shaft. We used the Brownells extended magnetic bits. If you generously dab grease all over the front of the bit (we used RIG) it won’t damage the concealed hole in the nicer-looking recoil pads. |
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I was going through my spare parts boxes in the garage and found a clone Remington 870 top folding stock. I've had real ones in the past, so I know this isn't one of them. No LE only stamp on the metal and the handle looks just different enough. It also has a shell holder that clips into the metal stock holes, which could just be an aftermarket part by another company. I think ATI made them. But it looks and feels durable enough to function on a firearm. I know I don't like shooting with the Rem factory 870 folding stocks, so I've never mounted it up. I've assumed it was either a Turkish or Chinese stock for one of their 870 clones, but haven't really found much info. It could be an airsoft stock, but it's hard to say. I'll try and get some pictures posted with the stock listed below. I bought it off somebody for $10-20 bucks. They had carved out the back to try to fit it to another shotgun, which is why it was so cheap. I got it with the intention of one day fitting it to one of my project shotguns. I may fit it to my S&W 3000 that I got for $100. It's a Remington 870 clone and is in rough shape with a cut down barrel that has rust/pitting on it. I also have a Knoxx top folding recoil reducing wire stock for a Remington 870 in my spare parts bin. I had it on a Chinese shotgun that took Rem furniture. The recoil reduction tube in the back is a little long, which is why I switched out out. It is retro like, but doesn't look like the Rem factory stock at all. It is much more pleasant to shoot with as it has a big oversized wire stock with a rubber coating over it. The Remington factory folder has a stamped steel with the seam where you rest your cheek. Not the best design. Also in my parts box, I have an ATI plastic top folder for a Mossberg 500/590. It's actually decently made. I'll eventually reshape the pistol grip as that's what makes it look 'cheap' to me. I like buying cheap parts for project and then do nothing with them. The folding stock is beefy enough to be durable and does mimic the Remington factory mag to a degree. Again, I picked it up cheap at a gunshow, I want to say $25-35. It may have come on a gun I bought that I put another stock on, I can't remember as I buy tons of cheap parts whenever I see them. For having 3 top folder stocks, I don't really care for them.  In the past, I have owned a top folding Choate stock as well. It was the one that turned me off to them. The cheek rest was nice, but too low. I much prefer their side folding stock, which is my go to when I find one cheap enough. |
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Originally Posted By ihon: I was going through my spare parts boxes in the garage and found a clone Remington 870 top folding stock. I've had real ones in the past, so I know this isn't one of them. No LE only stamp on the metal and the handle looks just different enough. It also has a shell holder that clips into the metal stock holes, which could just be an aftermarket part by another company. I think ATI made them. But it looks and feels durable enough to function on a firearm. I know I don't like shooting with the Rem factory 870 folding stocks, so I've never mounted it up. I've assumed it was either a Turkish or Chinese stock for one of their 870 clones, but haven't really found much info. It could be an airsoft stock, but it's hard to say. I'll try and get some pictures posted with the stock listed below. I bought it off somebody for $10-20 bucks. They had carved out the back to try to fit it to another shotgun, which is why it was so cheap. I got it with the intention of one day fitting it to one of my project shotguns. I may fit it to my S&W 3000 that I got for $100. It's a Remington 870 clone and is in rough shape with a cut down barrel that has rust/pitting on it. I also have a Knoxx top folding recoil reducing wire stock for a Remington 870 in my spare parts bin. I had it on a Chinese shotgun that took Rem furniture. The recoil reduction tube in the back is a little long, which is why I switched out out. It is retro like, but doesn't look like the Rem factory stock at all. It is much more pleasant to shoot with as it has a big oversized wire stock with a rubber coating over it. The Remington factory folder has a stamped steel with the seam where you rest your cheek. Not the best design. Also in my parts box, I have an ATI plastic top folder for a Mossberg 500/590. It's actually decently made. I'll eventually reshape the pistol grip as that's what makes it look 'cheap' to me. I like buying cheap parts for project and then do nothing with them. The folding stock is beefy enough to be durable and does mimic the Remington factory mag to a degree. Again, I picked it up cheap at a gunshow, I want to say $25-35. It may have come on a gun I bought that I put another stock on, I can't remember as I buy tons of cheap parts whenever I see them. For having 3 top folder stocks, I don't really care for them. In the past, I have owned a top folding Choate stock as well. It was the one that turned me off to them. The cheek rest was nice, but too low. I much prefer their side folding stock, which is my go to when I find one cheap enough. I believe there was once a replica made to similar dimensions to Remington designed for real shotgun use. In the past a member here said he had one and was of similar construction to Remington. Probably worth some money above the price of an actual used 870 shotgun itself. |
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Another oddity is the Sage 870 stock that retracts. Terribly uncomfortable and kills the cheek. There is one on GunBroker for $1250. I have one in storage somewhere. I might just try pair it up with an 870 SBS I was looking to see if they ever made one like it for Mossberg and evidently did not. Weird. |
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It didn't look cool but I always wanted to try one of the Remington folding stocks they were making before they went out of business. I think it had that nice soft pad they were using at the time. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: It didn't look cool but I always wanted to try one of the Remington folding stocks they were making before they went out of business. I think it had that nice soft pad they were using at the time. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129950/Remington_870_folding_stock_jpeg-3704136.JPG Yes it does have a soft cheek pad and super-cell recoil pad. I like mine, it's solid, 13" LOP. Wonder how many are out there? 
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Originally Posted By greyeyezz: Yes it does have a soft cheek pad and super-cell recoil pad. I like mine, it's solid, 13" LOP. Wonder how many are out there? https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55316958272_9bd52b04b3_b.jpg Originally Posted By greyeyezz: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: It didn't look cool but I always wanted to try one of the Remington folding stocks they were making before they went out of business. I think it had that nice soft pad they were using at the time. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129950/Remington_870_folding_stock_jpeg-3704136.JPG Yes it does have a soft cheek pad and super-cell recoil pad. I like mine, it's solid, 13" LOP. Wonder how many are out there? https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55316958272_9bd52b04b3_b.jpg Nice. I think that's the first one I've seen on a gun. |
BikerNut:
Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles.
People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird.
Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles.
People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird.
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Originally Posted By VaFish: Yeah, I shot one once back in the day, that cured my desire to have one. Originally Posted By VaFish: Originally Posted By rn22723: The original Remington was like shooting a razor...the folded metal was not kind.... Yeah, I shot one once back in the day, that cured my desire to have one. 
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Originally Posted By Couch-Commando: In speaking of factory folders cracking, I found one post from about a year ago where someone modded an airsoft copy of the remington to work on a real shotgun. Without a user name, i can't find out if it worked long term. If you're reading this, let me know how it went! It was me and it went well, it's still working well. I use a prices of peel and stick foam for a cheek piece the wrap over the steel where your cheek hits the stock - doesn't hurt as bad that way. I did another for a cheap and added one to a cheap 870 clone I got for $99 from Amchar Georgia and did another on a CIVET-12 mag fed SBS Attached File |
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Here is the CIvet-12 (Chinese 870 that takes Saiga Mags) Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: It didn't look cool but I always wanted to try one of the Remington folding stocks they were making before they went out of business. I think it had that nice soft pad they were using at the time. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129950/Remington_870_folding_stock_jpeg-3704136.JPG It's not bad. Needs a bit of sandpaper work here and there to smooth out rough bits from the mold but it works well. Just weighed the stock with my postal scale and it's only 1lb, 2 oz - might be one of the lightest 870 stocks out there.  Added the grip tape for a bit more purchase on the forend. |
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