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Posted: 1/28/2024 1:21:39 PM EST
 Best Millimeter Stribog | Grand Power | Shot Show 2024 I am getting pretty excited for these. I've been lusting over the SMG45 for a while now, but could never justify the price of one, especially given the issues they have had. I think the Stribog will scratch that itch. I've never owned or even shot a Stribog, but reading reviews of the 9mm versions, they seem like pretty good guns. Do most people order these directly from Global Ordnance, or is it better to go through a different distributor? Also, I've read about getting a different roller (40 degree) for shooting suppressed. Does anyone know if the same roller work in the 10mm/.45 guns, or will it be caliber specific? As far as UMP mags go, where are some good places to get them? |
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Posted: 1/28/2024 1:57:12 PM EST
[#1]
I had planned to upgrade from the SP9A1 to the SP9A3G. Now I’m going to keep the SP9A1 and buy the SP45A3. I really like that they lengthened the hand guard, and the UMP magazine is a welcome improvement.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/28/2024 3:42:27 PM EST
[#2]
It's good that they realize they make a fantastic gun - but can't seem to make a good magazine. Glad they went with a proven mag.
The 9MM Stribogs run 100% with a lower that takes Scorpion mags. The OEM mags are the guns only shortcoming. As for the roller block - not sure. For 9MM you can get 45 (standard for US models), 40, and 35 degree. I'm using the 40 degree in mine and it shoots incredibly soft. Far softer than any direct blowback or B&T with their hydraulic buffer system. Kind of curious to try the 35 degree, but not having any issues at all with the 40 so don't want to push my luck. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 8:08:07 AM EST
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Do most people order Stribogs directly from Global Ordnance, or is it better to go through a different distributor?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/30/2024 9:33:55 AM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bravo_Six: Do most people order Stribogs directly from Global Ordnance, or is it better to go through a different distributor? Bought my 9mm from gun zone deals. They were the cheapest out of everyone. Global does have a nice industry discount though if you work in the industry. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 8:21:53 PM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TactiCoolBro: Bought my 9mm from gun zone deals. They were the cheapest out of everyone. Global does have a nice industry discount though if you work in the industry. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TactiCoolBro: Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: Do most people order Stribogs directly from Global Ordnance, or is it better to go through a different distributor? Bought my 9mm from gun zone deals. They were the cheapest out of everyone. Global does have a nice industry discount though if you work in the industry. 
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OR, USA
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Posted: 1/30/2024 10:00:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TactiCoolBro: Bought my 9mm from gun zone deals. They were the cheapest out of everyone. Global does have a nice industry discount though if you work in the industry. Weird. I can purchase the 10mm version but they won't ship the .22 version to Oregon.... |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 1/30/2024 10:14:32 PM EST
[#7]
Ump 45 mag source
https://hkparts.net/rifle-parts/hk-ump-usc-series/hk-ump-usc-magazines-extensions/ |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 12:02:33 AM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhoule: Ump 45 mag source https://hkparts.net/rifle-parts/hk-ump-usc-series/hk-ump-usc-magazines-extensions/ How well do those aftermarket mags work? |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 1/31/2024 7:04:38 AM EST
[#9]
OEM manufacturer for smg45 lwrci mags. I haven’t had any issues with them or the ones that came with my smg45.
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Posted: 1/31/2024 8:35:57 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhoule: OEM manufacturer for smg45 lwrci mags. I haven’t had any issues with them or the ones that came with my smg45. Nice. Thanks! |
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Posted: 2/1/2024 9:33:36 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bravo_Six: Nice. Thanks! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bravo_Six: Originally Posted By jhoule: OEM manufacturer for smg45 lwrci mags. I haven’t had any issues with them or the ones that came with my smg45. Nice. Thanks! I use them in my Omega UMP-clone without issue as well. Knowing the Stribog 45 uses UMP mags has very much increased my interest in it since I’m already setup for those. |
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Posted: 2/3/2024 10:44:29 PM EST
[#12]
Any word yet on when these might be hitting the shelves?
In the next 30 days, or more like "before the end of 2024"? |
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Posted: 2/5/2024 9:37:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kent: Any word yet on when these might be hitting the shelves? In the next 30 days, or more like "before the end of 2024"? In the video in OP, GO said they are expecting them to come in end of February. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2024 11:54:48 AM EST
[#14]
Any update on these?
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Posted: 3/19/2024 6:46:21 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flyer: Any update on these? There was a poster on Reddit who said end of April. Also, the price is now $1450 for the braced model and $1300 for t he neutered version. I'm still interested, but my enthusiasm is lessening by the week. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 7:07:04 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bravo_Six: There was a poster on Reddit who said end of April. Also, the price is now $1450 for the braced model and $1300 for t he neutered version. I'm still interested, but my enthusiasm is lessening by the week. Wow. Thanks for that info. $1300 is right up there. Perhaps I need to rethink. Could just wait for the LC Charger 45 -- those will probably be around $1k or less after the initial rush, and they'll take cheap and easy-to-find G21 mags. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2024 9:47:09 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sparky923: Weird. I can purchase the 10mm version but they won't ship the .22 version to Oregon.... They said that about the sp9A3G. I emailed asking why and they removed OR from the list. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2024 3:52:24 AM EST
[#18]
Any updates on when this will be out?
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Posted: 3/26/2024 3:27:30 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flyer: Any updates on when this will be out? There was a poster on Reddit who said end of April. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 12:25:08 PM EST
[#20]
Getting to the end of April, anyone heard anything new about the SP45A3???
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OR, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 5:24:27 PM EST
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:23:38 PM EST
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 6:41:32 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TactiCoolBro: It's good that they realize they make a fantastic gun - but can't seem to make a good magazine. Glad they went with a proven mag. The 9MM Stribogs run 100% with a lower that takes Scorpion mags. The OEM mags are the guns only shortcoming. As for the roller block - not sure. For 9MM you can get 45 (standard for US models), 40, and 35 degree. I'm using the 40 degree in mine and it shoots incredibly soft. Far softer than any direct blowback or B&T with their hydraulic buffer system. Kind of curious to try the 35 degree, but not having any issues at all with the 40 so don't want to push my luck. Where does one purchase a 35 degree Stribog block? Never even heard of this before. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/15/2024 9:03:10 AM EST
[#24]
Anyone seen these anywhere else yet?
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Posted: 5/18/2024 2:36:55 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flyer: Anyone seen these anywhere else yet? I have one. Is non-concentric with 3 different mounts and suppressors. Have contacted customer service. The rest of it seems pretty awesome, it's tight, smooth. The plastic box it comes in even has metal hinges. There are obvious efforts made for quality. The .578x28 thread pitch is a necessity on pistol barrels, but they have enough meat on the barrel that I wish they would have just done 5/8x24 with a shoulder (if they could). The push button mag release is a little hard if you use your pointer finger, but great if you use your thumb, but the little paddle release is great and not too big to snag. Factory UMP mags fit. Haven't shot it yet, stuff fell through, kinda bummed about the non-alignment with the suppressor issue, and that's the whole reason I bought it. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2024 10:53:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zentradi: I have one. Is non-concentric with 3 different mounts and suppressors. Have contacted customer service. The rest of it seems pretty awesome, it's tight, smooth. The plastic box it comes in even has metal hinges. There are obvious efforts made for quality. The .578x28 thread pitch is a necessity on pistol barrels, but they have enough meat on the barrel that I wish they would have just done 5/8x24 with a shoulder (if they could). The push button mag release is a little hard if you use your pointer finger, but great if you use your thumb, but the little paddle release is great and not too big to snag. Factory UMP mags fit. Haven't shot it yet, stuff fell through, kinda bummed about the non-alignment with the suppressor issue, and that's the whole reason I bought it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zentradi: Originally Posted By flyer: Anyone seen these anywhere else yet? I have one. Is non-concentric with 3 different mounts and suppressors. Have contacted customer service. The rest of it seems pretty awesome, it's tight, smooth. The plastic box it comes in even has metal hinges. There are obvious efforts made for quality. The .578x28 thread pitch is a necessity on pistol barrels, but they have enough meat on the barrel that I wish they would have just done 5/8x24 with a shoulder (if they could). The push button mag release is a little hard if you use your pointer finger, but great if you use your thumb, but the little paddle release is great and not too big to snag. Factory UMP mags fit. Haven't shot it yet, stuff fell through, kinda bummed about the non-alignment with the suppressor issue, and that's the whole reason I bought it. Yea definitely, main reason to get one is an affordable .45 ACP PCC to suppress. If the threads are off then no reason to buy. Never heard any issues before with threads being non concentric on a Stribog? I hope my 10mm is not off, that would suck. |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 11:13:20 AM EST
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Global Ordnance sent me a shipping label before I completed my second cup of coffee this morning. That's pretty awesome.
As far as non-conentric, it does happen, and has happened with some of the best brands out there. It's only an issue if 1: you don't check your alignment before you pop, and 2: if it isn't resolved. I have a few .45 cans and really excited to use the DA Primal on this, because it's a great sounding can with lots of volume, just heavier. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2024 3:37:59 PM EST
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I picked up a Stribog SP45A3 from GunZoneDeals and got it out to the range today. I shot 275 rounds of 230gr FMJ (Blazer Brass and S&B) and 10 rounds of Lawman bonded JHP (RA45B). I mounted a SB tactical folding brace and a Vortex Spitfire 1x prism optic on the gun before hitting the range. Suppressor used (for just a few rounds) was a Gemtech GM45 direct threaded onto the barrel. Magazines used were 20 rounders that came with the gun (3) , and 3x HK and 4x clone 25 rounders.
Random notes: 1. The shoulder behind the threads for mounting a suppressor seem to me to be small...I wish the barrel were heavier/thicker to have a bigger shoulder to mate with the back of the suppressor. As it was I wasn't sure how hard to tighten my Gemtech down. 2. The gun ran flawlessly EXCEPT for 4x FTF using the factory 20 round magazines. All FTF were using 230gr FMJ, not JHP. I had two magazines that had 2 FTF each...the round came out/up and too high of an angle and smacked into the top rear of the chamber jamming the gun. No issues with the HK or clone 25 rounders. 3. The ambi safety level is too long IMHO. When getting a high grip on the gun your strong hand will touch the safety level when in the 'fire' position (pointing straight down). 4. I had to do some work on the SB folding brace to get it to go on/come off without requiring a hammer and foul language. Not wanting to modify the gun I used a dremel to remove a tiny bit of material from both sides of the slot on the brace adapter and all was good. 5. Trigger is not bad but not good. Would love to see a non-binary replacement for not too much $$$. 6. A mag loader is a must unless there is some secret to hand loading the mags. I bought a clone (not HK) that seemed to work well. Overall I am very pleased with the gun I just need to keep on eye on the factory 20 round magazines to see if they give me issues the next time I take this gun to the range. |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 4:15:52 PM EST
[#29]
.578x28 goes against the muzzle not the shoulder of the threading, seems to be the standard due to width of 1911 barrels. Thank you for review, looking forwards to blasting mine.!
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2024 9:50:20 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zentradi: .578x28 goes against the muzzle not the shoulder of the threading, seems to be the standard due to width of 1911 barrels. Thank you for review, looking forwards to blasting mine.! Thanks for that info, I was not aware of that fact about .578x28 threads. A few more notes that I could not fit into my original (2000 character) post: 1. Ejection seemed weak, some brass did not make it off the bench. I had ZERO extraction or ejection failures. 2. Thread protector on muzzle will come loose under fire I had to hand tighten it back up every few mags. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/23/2024 2:14:00 AM EST
[#31]
Anyone seen any deals yet on these?
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OR, USA
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Posted: 5/23/2024 9:50:23 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flyer: Anyone seen any deals yet on these? GunZoneDeals is an Industry Partner. Why don’t you check out their thread on the .45? |
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Posted: 5/30/2024 11:26:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: Kent]
[#33]
(I asked this in a different thread, but this may be a better place)
Are there internal lockwork/trigger differences between 9mm/45acp/10mm Stribog versions? Supposedly (?) all three take the same end cap/brace mount, and from photos, the chassis looks externally identical (other than handguard length) but I haven't been able to do a close comparison to truly determine that. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2024 10:13:25 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kent: (I asked this in a different thread, but this may be a better place) Are there internal lockwork/trigger differences between 9mm/45acp/10mm Stribog versions? Supposedly (?) all three take the same end cap/brace mount, and from photos, the chassis looks externally identical (other than handguard length) but I haven't been able to do a close comparison to truly determine that. I cannot speak to the trigger differences as I only have an SP45A3. Before I purchased This SBT Folding Brace I emailed Global Ordnance asking if it would fit the 45 and was told "All SP9A1 & SP9A3 braces and stocks will fit on the SP10A3 and SP45A3." |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2024 11:29:12 AM EST
[#35]
In case some of you are looking for UMP mags or HK mags in general Midwest blowing out there inventory.
Midwest HK Mag Blowout |
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Posted: 6/1/2024 9:03:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: Kent]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gungrass: In case some of you are looking for UMP mags or HK mags in general Midwest blowing out there inventory. Midwest HK Mag Blowout Thanks .. that's a great price for genuine HK UMP mags. Best I've ever seen, especially that 3-pack. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/1/2024 8:13:22 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhoule: Ump 45 mag source https://hkparts.net/rifle-parts/hk-ump-usc-series/hk-ump-usc-magazines-extensions/ Sorry for my ignorance but, there must be something I'm not seeing, why is one $45 https://hkparts.net/all-parts/hk-ump-45-acp-25-round-magazine/ And the other $95 https://hkparts.net/all-parts/h-k-ump-45-acp-25-round-magazine/ For what appear to be... The same magazine? |
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Posted: 6/1/2024 8:19:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: Kent]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By debts_collector: Sorry for my ignorance but, there must be something I'm not seeing, why is one $45 https://hkparts.net/all-parts/hk-ump-45-acp-25-round-magazine/ And the other $95 https://hkparts.net/all-parts/h-k-ump-45-acp-25-round-magazine/ For what appear to be... The same magazine? $45 is for the 3rd party reproduction mag, and $95 is for the genuine HK mag? |
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Posted: 6/1/2024 8:29:35 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kent: $45 is for the 3rd party reproduction mag, and $95 is for the genuine HK mag? Check the sale link a few posts above -- genuine HK UMP mags $177 for 3 mags -- or about $59 each plus ship. |
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Posted: 6/1/2024 8:36:05 PM EST
[#40]
I always thought the Stribog was ugly as all hell and a POS at that.
I know they fixed a lot of the issues but I just didn't get it. The Evo seemed so much better. That being said this is the first version I'm actually excited about and would consider. I still like 9mm more than 45. But there's a ton of 9mm PCCs out there. Only 2-3 in 45. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2024 7:20:30 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kent: $45 is for the 3rd party reproduction mag, and $95 is for the genuine HK mag? Check the sale link a few posts above -- genuine HK UMP mags $177 for 3 mags -- or about $59 each plus ship. That's the assumption I made, but I didn't actually see anything on the page making that clear to the consumer. Thank you! |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2024 7:21:41 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dolor: I always thought the Stribog was ugly as all hell and a POS at that. I know they fixed a lot of the issues but I just didn't get it. The Evo seemed so much better. That being said this is the first version I'm actually excited about and would consider. I still like 9mm more than 45. But there's a ton of 9mm PCCs out there. Only 2-3 in 45. I felt exactly the same. It's what lead me to go out and get the Scorpion 3+ But then I got it in my hands and just didn't like it. It's been under my bed, unfired, ever since. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/3/2024 12:14:17 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dolor: But there's a ton of 9mm PCCs out there. Only 2-3 in 45. It does feel that way, doesn't it? In reality we have more than 3: 1. Ruger LC 45 (carbine length only at present - but it's quite compact) 2. TNW Aero Survival 3. Extar (they seem to put it on the market and then withdraw every 3 years - some kind of production schedule, I presume) 4. CMMG both Descent and Banshee/Resolute 5. Kriss Vector 6. HiPoint 4595TS 7. LWRC SMG-45 8. B&T APC45 PRO 9. JRC 10. Kahr Thompson M1 11. Bear Creak Macon make a conversion set, but no lower. Of course, the 9mm options far outnumber the .45 options. But we still have a bunch, even with the attrition of Masterpiece, Flint River, Cx4, etc. |
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Posted: 6/3/2024 10:57:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zaitcev: It does feel that way, doesn't it? In reality we have more than 3: 1. Ruger LC 45 (carbine length only at present - but it's quite compact) 2. TNW Aero Survival 3. Extar (they seem to put it on the market and then withdraw every 3 years - some kind of production schedule, I presume) 4. CMMG both Descent and Banshee/Resolute 5. Kriss Vector 6. HiPoint 4595TS 7. LWRC SMG-45 8. B&T APC45 PRO 9. JRC 10. Kahr Thompson M1 11. Bear Creak Macon make a conversion set, but no lower. Of course, the 9mm options far outnumber the .45 options. But we still have a bunch, even with the attrition of Masterpiece, Flint River, Cx4, etc. That whole list and no HK USC/UMP. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 6/5/2024 12:43:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: flyer]
[#45]
Are the HK mags worth the difference in price?
3 HK Mags shipped + tax = $77.80 per mag 3 HKP US Mags shipped + tax = $55.61 per mag Are they really worth the extra for $22.19 per mag for use in the Stribog SP45A3? Please let me know as I might want to get some while they are on sale. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 6/5/2024 8:43:10 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flyer: Are the HK mags worth the difference in price? 3 HK Mags shipped + tax = $77.80 3 HKP US Mags shipped + tax = $55.61 Are they really worth the extra for $22.19 for use in the Stribog SP45A3? Please let me know as I might want to get some while they are on sale. I would say absolutely and they will be worth more then what you paid |
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Posted: 6/7/2024 2:47:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: Kent]
[#47]
Just picked up my SP45A3 today. Haven't had a chance to fire it yet, but did notice something curious:
The factory 20 round magazines supplied with the weapon lock in well, but they feel very loose with regards to left-to-right play. However, the genuine HK UMP 25 round mags (bought separately) fit perfectly, with almost zero left-to-right play. Given that, I won't be buying any additional Stribog 45 factory mags, but only HK mags. I probably will try the HK Parts mags and see how they fit. I would be interested in hearing what experience others have had. |
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Posted: 6/7/2024 4:07:34 PM EST
[#48]
I sent mine in for repair unfired, but the HK factory mags were tighter than the Stribog mags. Haven't gotten it back yet to fire it though.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2024 12:56:46 AM EST
[#49]
Saw a video on you tube where they testing an SP45A3. The results were not good. Multiple failures with the supplied mags. They said the HK mags worked "better" whatever that means. Was interested but not now.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2024 12:57:29 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zentradi: I sent mine in for repair unfired, but the HK factory mags were tighter than the Stribog mags. Haven't gotten it back yet to fire it though. What was wrong with it? |
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