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Posted: 4/23/2024 4:56:19 PM EDT
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Howell 45 Colt conversion cylinder for my Uberti 1858 New Model Army. After some swearing I figured out the trick to getting it in. Once it's in, it locks up tighter than a bank vault. Dummy 45 Colt rounds chamber perfectly. Attached File It does take a shorter COAL. Attached File I have a few more tools en route for reloading this caliber, and loading this with the Holy Black as well. Fun times! |
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Cool. Waaaay back in college (90s) the dad of one of my friends did one of those himself. He was a former Green Beret and was always tinkering with guns. He had a small machine shop and did all kinds of stuff with guns.
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Clean your nasty keyboard.
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I have Howell conversion cylinders for all my cap and ball revolvers. (Inside the plastic canisters)
Unfortunately, I have to run all my 45 Colt factory ammo on a belt grinder to make them short enough to chamber correctly. Attached File |
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Very nice collection, sir.
I had heard that all BP revolver cylinders are shorter than a 45 Colt cylinder, and that was why some people use 45 Schofield instead. The dummies I show are loaded with the Lee 255gr cast seated at the crimp groove, and it seems to be the correct length, but a wee bit shorter than the called-for COAL. With lighter "Cowboy" loads or black powder loads, I expect that shouldn't be a major issue. I could use Schofield, but I just started with this caliber, don't want to expand out again just yet! I see that none of the firing pins have springs in them - normal? On the side, for grins and giggles I looked up the Kirst Konverter setup perhaps for my Uberti 1860. Not cheap, but sure looks good, especially set up with ejector and cut out. If you are loading BP cartridges, what lube do you use for the bullets and how applied? I was going to simply powdercoat, but was told that won't work well with black powder. |
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I don’t load black powder cartridges.
When using BP, I love the experience of loading loose powder, placing the lubed wad, and levering in the lead ball into each cylinder chamber. It is cathartic for me. |
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I have a Howell or two. And an open top with a conversion similar to the Richard’s Mason.
But my bucket list is a Kirst or several. Just can’t figure out which to do. OP, does the trigger guard bite you on the 58? Everyone of mine does. |
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17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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No, as a matter of fact the Remington frames seems to fit me better than many of the Colt Army or Navy grips. That's why the only gun really on my wish list right now is a Taylor/Uberti Remington 1875 in 45 Colt.
My sizing die is taking forever to get here, got it from Titan Reloading, an outfit I had never heard of before but my gunsmith buddy LAGS has dealt with many times. I looked at the Kirst Konverter after I got the Howell, and I have to say, very nice with the add on ejectors etc., but the price tag is nuts. To convert my 1860 to the Kirst with ejector came out to just under $500, and I can get a new strong revolver for about the same that can handle all 45 Colt ammo, not just Cowboy/Black Powder. On the other hand, a Konverted 1860 WOULD be cool as all get out. |
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Are you going to chronograph them?
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Originally Posted By armoredman: And at the end of all this, I looked at the other mold my buddy sent to try - THAT looks like a black powder lube groove! Gonna cast some of them up this weekend, I guess. https://i.imgur.com/xP3v9V6.jpg Now off to the range ASAP. Critique away. View Quote Will .452" seal properly in a .455" bore? |
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Death to quislings.
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Originally Posted By armoredman: Originally Posted By Element94: Clean your nasty keyboard. Blow me. I see Howell makes a Uberti .45ACP that is out of stock. I put myself on the list. |
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Preferred pronoun: MARINE
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Will .452" seal properly in a .455" bore? View Quote I use a .454 sized ball when loading black, and it shaves a nice ring, so I think, based on what I saw, that the bullets are close enough to the same diameter to work. If the conversion cylinder was known to shoot nothing but inaccurate softballs, I think I would have found that in all the web searching I did for reviews and such. |
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@armoredman
You should see if it’s possible to search “GUNS” magazine archives for John Taffin’s past articles. I’ve been a subscriber for years and Taffin writes about black powder loads in sixguns every month. Load development, different powders, pistol brands, conversions, etc. Always my favorite read. |
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Interesting, thank you for the tip, much appreciated. I am just about to go start up the lead pot to cast some better bullets.
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