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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:04:19 PM EDT
Is the Griffin worth the extra $200+?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:43:50 PM EDT
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Ha, no.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:44:37 PM EDT
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I mean, I went Explorr. Both are good cans. Are you mil or LE?
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Posted: 9/6/2024 9:10:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KM6: Ha, no. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 10:37:05 PM EDT
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I've never touched a T3... but there's nothing I'm unhappy about with my Explorr 300.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:26:14 AM EDT
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I have the Explorr 224 and two Turbo Ks (gen 2 and the RB). They are all great cans.
The TK RB really impressed me with low back pressure on an untuned 16" AR carbine and an X95 (which is overgassed and can't be tuned). I have no experience with the T3, but all the reviews I've seen have been positive. I'm sure the Explorr is $200 better than the T2, but I'm dubious as to the Explorr being $200 worth of better than the T3. That said, I'd still be happy to own both. Keep in mind that I wear earpro when shooting all suppressors (except 22LR). So size, weight and backpressure are my priorities. Your priorities may be different. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:38:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: I have the Explorr 224 and two Turbo Ks (gen 2 and the RB). They are all great cans. The TK RB really impressed me with low back pressure on an untuned 16" AR carbine and an X95 (which is overgassed and can't be tuned). I have no experience with the T3, but all the reviews I've seen have been positive. I'm sure the Explorr is $200 better than the T2, but I'm dubious as to the Explorr being $200 worth of better than the T3. That said, I'd still be happy to own both. Keep in mind that I wear earpro when shooting all suppressors (except 22LR). So size, weight and backpressure are my priorities. Your priorities may be different. My T3 lives on a completely untuned 16” with a carbine buffer. Whether I’m dumping Tula or Lake City, I can see no noticeable difference in unsuppressed/suppressed ejection. On my host it lives up to their reduced back pressure claims. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/7/2024 2:19:22 PM EDT
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Definitely not worth 200 more. T3 is a fantastic suppressor and punches WAY above it's price point.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/7/2024 2:37:29 PM EDT
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YHM did really really well in a number of categories at the most recent Silencer Summit. Wish I could get my T2 converted to T3.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/7/2024 3:49:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By peachy: YHM did really really well in a number of categories at the most recent Silencer Summit. Wish I could get my T2 converted to T3. The decrease in blowback from the T2 to T3 is definitely quite noticeable. The T3 is an insanely underrated suppressor IMO. If you put Dead Air or another cool guy brand on the side of it and charged $200-$300 more for it, no one would complain about it and say it performs right in line with it's price point. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 4:17:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: zentradi]
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The YHM Turbo 3's data is available at both the 2023 and 2024 Silencer Summits, I think 2023 was a 10.5 barrel" and 2024 was a 16" barrel. The decibels at muzzle ML dB and shooters ear SE dB were not high ranking at either. Griffin was modest in the amount of cans tested, so I do not see data for the Explorr, but I have no doubt they could give the info on how it would sound in comparison to their other cans which were tested.
Please note Peachy has corrected my data in the post following this, this post left as was incorrectly stated, thank you. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/7/2024 8:44:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zentradi: The YHM Turbo 3's data is available at both the 2023 and 2024 Silencer Summits, I think 2023 was a 10.5 barrel" and 2024 was a 16" barrel. The decibels at muzzle ML dB and shooters ear SE dB were not high ranking at either. Griffin was modest in the amount of cans tested, so I do not see data for the Explorr, but I have no doubt they could give the info on how it would sound in comparison to their other cans which were tested. At the 2024, for SE dB, the Fat Cat was second, Turbo 3 was third, and Turbo-K RB was fourth. Third seems pretty high ranking to me, and also seems like a pretty awesome showing by YHM. In SE dBA, Turbo 3 was fourth. Again, pretty darn good. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 9:22:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By peachy: At the 2024, for SE dB, the Fat Cat was second, Turbo 3 was third, and Turbo-K RB was fourth. Third seems pretty high ranking to me, and also seems like a pretty awesome showing by YHM. In SE dBA, Turbo 3 was fourth. Again, pretty darn good. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By peachy: Originally Posted By zentradi: The YHM Turbo 3's data is available at both the 2023 and 2024 Silencer Summits, I think 2023 was a 10.5 barrel" and 2024 was a 16" barrel. The decibels at muzzle ML dB and shooters ear SE dB were not high ranking at either. Griffin was modest in the amount of cans tested, so I do not see data for the Explorr, but I have no doubt they could give the info on how it would sound in comparison to their other cans which were tested. At the 2024, for SE dB, the Fat Cat was second, Turbo 3 was third, and Turbo-K RB was fourth. Third seems pretty high ranking to me, and also seems like a pretty awesome showing by YHM. In SE dBA, Turbo 3 was fourth. Again, pretty darn good. Thank you for the correction. I am corrected with SE, it was #3, although with muzzle, the Turbo 3 was third from last on the 16 inch host with 150.08 dB which is worse than in 2023 because it was at eighth from last on the 10.5 platform at 148.58 and in the lower half of SE at 148.00. Still not a can I will consider buying. The SE Db from 2024 is also further marginalized that over one-half of the cans performed within 2 dB of the T3, while it's ML dB of 150.08 only performed with 2dB of the 13th from the last can, the Liberty Precision Torch at 148.12DB and within 2 dB of the first 29 cans which varied from 138.85 with the (leading) Banish to the RC3 at 147.72 dB. I think there are better options even if they are marginally more expensive, including the low back-pressure choices. |
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Posted: 9/8/2024 1:12:56 PM EDT
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2 things to also keep on mind when deciding (may or may not be an issue to you) -
Minimum barrel length - YHM has minimum 10in., Explorr no minimum Warranty - no experience directly but from what I've read on here YHM will not warranty if they find you used someone else's mounts. I got a T3 as my first 556 can and just picked up the Explorr224 utility mount. Unfortunately I had issues with the host for the Explorr last weekend so I haven't had a good chance to shoot both side by side. |
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Posted: 9/8/2024 3:02:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By captexas: 2 things to also keep on mind when deciding (may or may not be an issue to you) - Minimum barrel length - YHM has minimum 10in., Explorr no minimum Warranty - no experience directly but from what I've read on here YHM will not warranty if they find you used someone else's mounts. I got a T3 as my first 556 can and just picked up the Explorr224 utility mount. Unfortunately I had issues with the host for the Explorr last weekend so I haven't had a good chance to shoot both side by side. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/9/2024 11:08:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dmk0210]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By captexas: Warranty - no experience directly but from what I've read on here YHM will not warranty if they find you used someone else's mounts. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By captexas: Warranty - no experience directly but from what I've read on here YHM will not warranty if they find you used someone else's mounts. Originally Posted By 1168RGR: YHM told me that they will warranty cans used with third party mounts unless the damage was specifically caused by the mount. I think this is just a misinterpretation that grew into a thing. Yeah that often repeated statement is misleading. Plus the user here who had a problem with a Dead Air Keymo mount only had to pay something like $200 to get the can fixed. It wasn't like YHM just told him to go pound sand. (and YHM found nothing wrong with the can as far as alignment, though DA said the same thing about the mount, so I suspect it was user error - and that happens to the best of us) I use Griffin Plan A with my YHM cans (and all my rifle cans). I check alignment whenever I mount them on a different host. I'm pretty confident it will be fine. If I screw it up, I'll pay the $200. It's not going to keep me from buying YHM cans. |
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Posted: 9/9/2024 11:20:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmk0210: Yeah that often repeated statement is misleading. Plus the user here who had a problem with a Dead Air Keymo mount only had to pay something like $200 to get the can fixed. It wasn't like YHM just told him to go pound sand. (and YHM found nothing wrong with the can as far as alignment, though DA said the same thing about the mount, so I suspect it was user error - and that happens to the best of us) I use Griffin Plan A with my YHM cans (and all my rifle cans). I check alignment whenever I mount them on a different host. I'm pretty confident it will be fine. If I screw it up, I'll pay the $200. It's not going to keep me from buying YHM cans. |
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Posted: 9/9/2024 2:38:46 PM EDT
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Check weight. You may see where that extra money went... Or didn't go.
I'm an ounces are pounds guy so weight is a big issue for me. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 4:07:28 PM EDT
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Thanks
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Posted: Today 9:40:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By captexas: 2 things to also keep on mind when deciding (may or may not be an issue to you) - Minimum barrel length - YHM has minimum 10in., Explorr no minimum Warranty - no experience directly but from what I've read on here YHM will not warranty if they find you used someone else's mounts. I got a T3 as my first 556 can and just picked up the Explorr224 utility mount. Unfortunately I had issues with the host for the Explorr last weekend so I haven't had a good chance to shoot both side by side. Bumping this as it's pertinent to my interests. Did you get a chance to shoot these side by side? I'm also somewhat torn between these two suppressors. |
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