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Visual Guide: How to Fill out a Form 1 using EForms (Page 6 of 6)
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So I couldn't enter the hyphen in my lower serial number into the box in efile Form 1. So I just left it out.... Another thing I was confused by is the responsible person form asking about caliber. My lower is marked "MULTI". I know in the F1 application I put 5.56 but I wasn't sure if that was right for the responsible person form. I assume it wanted the original manufacturer information? |
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@BigWaylon thanks for this thread. I did my first E-form 1 for a SBR today and it took me 5 hours to complete.  I had started the process a few days ago and saved it, but today I couldn't get some of the fields to pop up. After reading your post closely, I figured it out and got my electronic fingerprint files to load. After the first time it should be pretty easy for me to do again.  Thanks again. |
Thirty-year-old-me could kick sixty-year-old-me's ass and make me eat catshit outa the ditch.
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One thing that wasted a lot of my time. When the page is completed and it shows "processing do not refresh your browser", it's not doing shit. If it doesn't finish in ten minutes, refresh your browser and start over. It will save a bunch of time. Another thing is the save function is almost useless, sometimes it saves the info you just entered and sometimes it doesn't.  It definitely pays to have all of your info, documents and photos to add, ready and gathered in one file. Filling out the form in one pass would save a lot of headaches. 
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Thirty-year-old-me could kick sixty-year-old-me's ass and make me eat catshit outa the ditch.
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Originally Posted By A96HondaAccordEX: So I couldn't enter the hyphen in my lower serial number into the box in efile Form 1. So I just left it out.... Another thing I was confused by is the responsible person form asking about caliber. My lower is marked "MULTI". I know in the F1 application I put 5.56 but I wasn't sure if that was right for the responsible person form. I assume it wanted the original manufacturer information? The lower is marked Multi, but you're making an SBR. The bbl has a length and a caliber independent of the lower. The lower could be marked .458 SOCOM, but if the bbl's .223, you put .223. |
Death to quislings.
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Ignorant question, and I'm sure it has been answered before: In submitting a Form 1 with a trust, are the trust documents uploaded, or sent with prints, or not required? If sent in some fashion, are all pages submitted, or only the notarized ones? Thanks in advance! |
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Originally Posted By QRB: Ignorant question, and I'm sure it has been answered before: In submitting a Form 1 with a trust, are the trust documents uploaded, or sent with prints, or not required? If sent in some fashion, are all pages submitted, or only the notarized ones? Thanks in advance! Been a few years, but I scanned all my pages into a .pdf, and uploaded the whole thing. |
Death to quislings.
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Originally Posted By Wangstang: @BigWaylon & others I seem to recall reading "All lawful purposes" was not accepted at some point in the last year or two. Is "All lawful purposes" still acceptable assuming you aren't in a state where some oddball state law causes issues with that phrase? I used All Constiutional purposes. |
Death to quislings.
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Originally Posted By Wangstang: @BigWaylon & others I seem to recall reading "All lawful purposes" was not accepted at some point in the last year or two. Is "All lawful purposes" still acceptable assuming you aren't in a state where some oddball state law causes issues with that phrase? Historically if the reason is not deemed as criminal you will be fine. There was a rumor(maybe it was real) that there was a specific agent rejecting that reason. 17+ later(several have gone through the same agent) and 2 more coming soon, it has worked for me. Edit - Worst part is that they have no accountability to you. I have had a certain agent leave me her personal number for the correction submitted to her and I recently have had one completely reject the application with no option but to start over. During covid they were working from home and I am not sure many have even gone back to a physical work address. |
You can’t truly call yourself peaceful unless you’re capable of great violence. If you’re not capable of violence, you’re not peaceful, you’re harmless.
Selling dime bags of primers.
Selling dime bags of primers.
| I submitted 3 eForm 1s. For some reason two have my SSN and one does not, I don’t know why that is , but I don’t think it will be a problem just an observation. One eForm1 was on a M&P 15-22P and another was on a PSA Virginia-15. Those two are pending/in-process. The third was on a lower from a local shop. The eForm recognized the manufacturer but did not recognize the model so I had to manually enter that information. The eForm 1 for that firearm is Pending Research. Does anyone know how long there research takes? I submitted pictures of the roll marks on the lower and of the complete firearm. |
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"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”-George Orwell
I'd suck those toes until her tits inverted
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”-George Orwell
I'd suck those toes until her tits inverted
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I have a question on the RPQ for the eForm 1 regarding conflicting instructions. The eForm 1 asks for a scanned and signed copy of the RPQ but the RPQ instructions item 10 states the following... 10. Sign and date the form. The signature must be original. Exceptions: In the case of eforms or where a variance has been granted a digital/electronic signature may be used. Has anyone run into a problem using a digital signature instead of a signed and scanned RPQ? |
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Originally Posted By Gypsyman: I have a question on the RPQ for the eForm 1 regarding conflicting instructions. The eForm 1 asks for a scanned and signed copy of the RPQ but the RPQ instructions item 10 states the following... 10. Sign and date the form. The signature must be original. Exceptions: In the case of eforms or where a variance has been granted a digital/electronic signature may be used. Has anyone run into a problem using a digital signature instead of a signed and scanned RPQ? I also want to know this |
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When filling out the responsible person questionnaire for a trust form 1, I filled it out and printed all pages, signed my copy it the ATF form as well as the CLEO form. Wife did the same for hers. Do I only need to scan the ATF form back into the form 1 or do I need to do the CLEO copy as well? |
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon: a couple new screen shots... OK...here are a couple updates. I don't have the same software I used for adding text and arrows, so these are pretty rough. At a minimum, it'll at least give you a heads-up as to what you'll encounter. Since it's now available for individuals, this page is near the beginning: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126679/new_1_JPG-695311.jpg They've added additional instructions now to discuss photos and fingerprints: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126679/new_2_JPG-695314.jpg The Responsible Persons section is new, but fairly straight forward. It covers all the CoC info as well. This is where you'll upload pics (even for individuals) and a 5320.23 (RPQ) for each RP. Instructions say you need to print a paper copy, sign it, then scan and upload. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126679/new_3_JPG-695317.jpg the rest of the info once you scroll to the right: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126679/new_5_JPG-695318.jpg The CLEO section is also new, and fairly straightforward. Remember...this is not limited to your local Sheriff or Police Chief. Lots of other options, including state level employees (which may provide a little more OpSec). https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126679/new_4_JPG-695319.jpg I'm assuming you simply print out the Form 1 and the RPQ (if necessary) and mail it. Maybe I missed it, but I don't see any instructions stating otherwise...they're not mailing it for you. How does it work if your have your fingerprints in an electronic file? |
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Originally Posted By dana: How does it work if your have your fingerprints in an electronic file? Originally Posted By dana: Originally Posted By BigWaylon: a couple new screen shots... OK...here are a couple updates. I don't have the same software I used for adding text and arrows, so these are pretty rough. At a minimum, it'll at least give you a heads-up as to what you'll encounter. Since it's now available for individuals, this page is near the beginning: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126679/new_1_JPG-695311.jpg They've added additional instructions now to discuss photos and fingerprints: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126679/new_2_JPG-695314.jpg The Responsible Persons section is new, but fairly straight forward. It covers all the CoC info as well. This is where you'll upload pics (even for individuals) and a 5320.23 (RPQ) for each RP. Instructions say you need to print a paper copy, sign it, then scan and upload. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126679/new_3_JPG-695317.jpg the rest of the info once you scroll to the right: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126679/new_5_JPG-695318.jpg The CLEO section is also new, and fairly straightforward. Remember...this is not limited to your local Sheriff or Police Chief. Lots of other options, including state level employees (which may provide a little more OpSec). https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126679/new_4_JPG-695319.jpg I'm assuming you simply print out the Form 1 and the RPQ (if necessary) and mail it. Maybe I missed it, but I don't see any instructions stating otherwise...they're not mailing it for you. But, I'd be jumped up & down to see where to attach such to Form 1 an SBS. 
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Call the tune and let's dance; but beware that the devil is the piper and the tab for that soiree will be hell to pay.
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
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Originally Posted By @dana: How does it work if your have your fingerprints in an electronic file? A lot has to do with this web page form being a circa 1998 special using JavaScript. AdBlockers will interfere with it. Used FireFox as it was identified by AI as the one with the least issues and an ad blocker was not installed for it. When you get to the Responsible Person, on the far right side is a small tiny assed Edit icon under the word "Actions". Yeah, that small dot there. Click it:  If that doesn't work, trying clicking [Add Responsible Person] then that Edit Icon. Repeat until it works. Unfortunately, you're dealing with crap worse than 1999 high school sophmore computer science project.  Sorry. Then, this should appear.  Don't feel bad, it took me 4 hours raising cane on a non-hungover Sunday morning with an AI Agent trying to get this to work.  But that should help get you to this: 
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Call the tune and let's dance; but beware that the devil is the piper and the tab for that soiree will be hell to pay.
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
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To update this thread since BigWaylon has not logged in since 10/2/2024, I contacted another moderator, prebans, and he gave me the OK to post these screen snippets. This is specifically for individuals and not a trust. As I disavow being a Subject Matter Expert in this, there may be inaccuracies. I apologize now for such and will happily correct if you point any out. With that said, this is started as if the user has already logged in to the ATF site and created an account. These screen snippets do not capture this as this was done about a couple of years ago. The ATF eForms log in is: ==-->> https://eforms.atf.gov/login  ===========================================================================  =========================================================================== 
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Call the tune and let's dance; but beware that the devil is the piper and the tab for that soiree will be hell to pay.
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
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Call the tune and let's dance; but beware that the devil is the piper and the tab for that soiree will be hell to pay.
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
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Call the tune and let's dance; but beware that the devil is the piper and the tab for that soiree will be hell to pay.
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
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Call the tune and let's dance; but beware that the devil is the piper and the tab for that soiree will be hell to pay.
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
 =========================================================================== I chose JTS as that was the model shotgun I was going to make into an SBS. You will need to enter the model that you're submitting the Form 1 for at this point (i.e. Remington or Colt or Daniel Defense or etc.) .  ===========================================================================  ===========================================================================  =========================================================================== |
Call the tune and let's dance; but beware that the devil is the piper and the tab for that soiree will be hell to pay.
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
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Call the tune and let's dance; but beware that the devil is the piper and the tab for that soiree will be hell to pay.
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
  Sorry, didn't get an arrow on the Next button but that is the needed action. ===========================================================================  ===========================================================================  |
Call the tune and let's dance; but beware that the devil is the piper and the tab for that soiree will be hell to pay.
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
Training&Trigger Time are more important than chasing a hardware Holy Grail
Visual Guide: How to Fill out a Form 1 using EForms (Page 6 of 6)
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