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Originally Posted By stoner01: How you liking the JSTA? Was thinking about getting one as a grab pouch View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By stoner01: Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/108584/20210928_182734-2110269.jpg Finally finished, got the S&S belt loop and the JSTA and LBX med pouch in today. Eagle belt Spiritus JSTA and double mag insert S&S SMR LBX Med Pouch Safariland Single leg shroud with QLS and ELS Not pictured is an Eleven10 CAT holster ELS can mount a shotgun shell holder or baton. How you liking the JSTA? Was thinking about getting one as a grab pouch I'm not Joe but mine just came and I'm in the air on it. It's a super intelligently designed pouch and I'm pumped somebody was finally smart enough to put munitions BEHIND a gp style pouch, but I'm not sure of how to use this in a way that makes sense. I'm not a fan of stuff like this hanging from a belt and IMO this pouch was designed to be belt mounted. Gonna wear it around a bit and see if I can use it to streamline my gear some a bit more. Side note I wish someone would do a pouch designed for inside the cummerbund with mesh lining on the body side for radios. |
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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Spiritus JSTA View Quote I didn't know those existed until now. Really like it. Now that I'm out and no longer have a need for a large dump pouch nor need to worry about wearing it in trucks (I would wear it at 7 or 8 o'clock with rifle insert), this seem to be a space saver and a great fit for a shot timer/spare ammo/tape/etc. for matches and range days. |
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I can't remember if I posted mine before so here we go:
Esstac inner/outer belt Esstac Gap pistol mag holder Esstac "naked" mid height AR mag holder T-Rex Dump pouch Copy of a TRex med pouch CAT TQ holder Safariland 6390RDS for Sig 320X True North Modular Holster Adapter The True North Adapter is the best purchase on the belt, the mag carriers, belt, holster, etc. are all great but man, that holster adapter is the cat's ass. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Real_PhillBert: This thread has forced me to start putting together a war belt, so thanks for that It's still in it's early stages but here's how it sits now: Blue Alpha Gear belt Safariland 6390RDS for Glock 2x Haley Strategic Pistol Mag Pouches 2x Haley Strategic Rifle Mag Pouches https://i.postimg.cc/Bv5ymQ10/20211004-202044-1.jpg I went with the Haley Strategic mag pouches since a Staccato P is next on my list, and dont really want to swap out inserts. A single rifle mag seems to be the popular option here, but I went with two since I do not have a plate carrier or chest rig right now, so what's on the belt is what I have. I'm currently planning on a Blue Force Gear dump pouch, Micro TKN, Tourniquet hammock, and a True North holster adapter. View Quote Hows the retention for those plastic mags? I had to do surgery on my haley pistol pouches to get them to play nice with my metal vp9 mags. |
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Hows the retention for those plastic mags? I had to do surgery on my haley pistol pouches to get them to play nice with my metal vp9 mags. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By Real_PhillBert: This thread has forced me to start putting together a war belt, so thanks for that It's still in it's early stages but here's how it sits now: Blue Alpha Gear belt Safariland 6390RDS for Glock 2x Haley Strategic Pistol Mag Pouches 2x Haley Strategic Rifle Mag Pouches https://i.postimg.cc/Bv5ymQ10/20211004-202044-1.jpg I went with the Haley Strategic mag pouches since a Staccato P is next on my list, and dont really want to swap out inserts. A single rifle mag seems to be the popular option here, but I went with two since I do not have a plate carrier or chest rig right now, so what's on the belt is what I have. I'm currently planning on a Blue Force Gear dump pouch, Micro TKN, Tourniquet hammock, and a True North holster adapter. Hows the retention for those plastic mags? I had to do surgery on my haley pistol pouches to get them to play nice with my metal vp9 mags. Tight. Very tight on glock mags. Right now I'd say they're uncomfortably tight, you can pull mags out with a hearty tug but inserting a mag requires a fair amount of force. They claim that the pouches will "break in" a bit and be easier to work with after use, I hope that's the case. On the flip side, I really like the rifle mag pouches. |
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Originally Posted By Real_PhillBert: Tight. Very tight on glock mags. Right now I'd say they're uncomfortably tight, you can pull mags out with a hearty tug but inserting a mag requires a fair amount of force. They claim that the pouches will "break in" a bit and be easier to work with after use, I hope that's the case. On the flip side, I really like the rifle mag pouches. View Quote The rifle mag pouch is pure sex. I shoved multitools in the pistol mag pouches sideways to get them to stretch out. I was finally able to draw my mags, but having metal mags was just too much retention for me. I cut out the rubbery part on the outside part of the internals and now they actually work really well. |
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: The rifle mag pouch is pure sex. I shoved multitools in the pistol mag pouches sideways to get them to stretch out. I was finally able to draw my mags, but having metal mags was just too much retention for me. I cut out the rubbery part on the outside part of the internals and now they actually work really well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By Real_PhillBert: Tight. Very tight on glock mags. Right now I'd say they're uncomfortably tight, you can pull mags out with a hearty tug but inserting a mag requires a fair amount of force. They claim that the pouches will "break in" a bit and be easier to work with after use, I hope that's the case. On the flip side, I really like the rifle mag pouches. The rifle mag pouch is pure sex. I shoved multitools in the pistol mag pouches sideways to get them to stretch out. I was finally able to draw my mags, but having metal mags was just too much retention for me. I cut out the rubbery part on the outside part of the internals and now they actually work really well. That's a good thing to know. I'll probably shove the biggest mags I have in there and let them be for a bit to hopefully loosen a bit, I'm just worried about going too far. I can draw the mags out alright, you have to mean it, but you can get the mags out. Inserting them is more challenging, almost a two handed event. |
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Originally Posted By 96Ag: I can't remember if I posted mine before so here we go: Esstac inner/outer belt Esstac Gap pistol mag holder Esstac "naked" mid height AR mag holder T-Rex Dump pouch Copy of a TRex med pouch CAT TQ holder Safariland 6390RDS for Sig 320X True North Modular Holster Adapter The True North Adapter is the best purchase on the belt, the mag carriers, belt, holster, etc. are all great but man, that holster adapter is the cat's ass.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32264/BattleBelt_jpeg-2118747.JPG View Quote That looks familiar! I'm on the fence hard over one of those True North adapters. On the one hand I don't have any serious complaints about the standard UBL. On the other I wouldn't mind being able to tweak the cant a little, maybe. |
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Originally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: That looks familiar! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/11358/20211008_083201-2122242.jpg I'm on the fence hard over one of those True North adapters. On the one hand I don't have any serious complaints about the standard UBL. On the other I wouldn't mind being able to tweak the cant a little, maybe. View Quote CUBL worked for me. On my duty belt I wanted to bring my holster back to neutral drop without the offset of a QLS. For $20 I can't complain. |
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Originally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: That looks familiar! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/11358/20211008_083201-2122242.jpg I'm on the fence hard over one of those True North adapters. On the one hand I don't have any serious complaints about the standard UBL. On the other I wouldn't mind being able to tweak the cant a little, maybe. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: Originally Posted By 96Ag: I can't remember if I posted mine before so here we go: Esstac inner/outer belt Esstac Gap pistol mag holder Esstac "naked" mid height AR mag holder T-Rex Dump pouch Copy of a TRex med pouch CAT TQ holder Safariland 6390RDS for Sig 320X True North Modular Holster Adapter The True North Adapter is the best purchase on the belt, the mag carriers, belt, holster, etc. are all great but man, that holster adapter is the cat's ass.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32264/BattleBelt_jpeg-2118747.JPG That looks familiar! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/11358/20211008_083201-2122242.jpg I'm on the fence hard over one of those True North adapters. On the one hand I don't have any serious complaints about the standard UBL. On the other I wouldn't mind being able to tweak the cant a little, maybe. I got one of the "blemished" one for a few bucks less and after using it I will buy another for my grey belt that I am re-doing from a Tactical Tailor Fight Lite padded belt into a much smaller Wilder Tactical. You won't regret the purchase. I really like mine. Your belt is an obvious sign that you are man of distinction and discerning taste, the True North adapter would put the final shine on your obviously good decisions to date. |
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Originally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: That looks familiar! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/11358/20211008_083201-2122242.jpg I'm on the fence hard over one of those True North adapters. On the one hand I don't have any serious complaints about the standard UBL. On the other I wouldn't mind being able to tweak the cant a little, maybe. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: Originally Posted By 96Ag: I can't remember if I posted mine before so here we go: Esstac inner/outer belt Esstac Gap pistol mag holder Esstac "naked" mid height AR mag holder T-Rex Dump pouch Copy of a TRex med pouch CAT TQ holder Safariland 6390RDS for Sig 320X True North Modular Holster Adapter The True North Adapter is the best purchase on the belt, the mag carriers, belt, holster, etc. are all great but man, that holster adapter is the cat's ass.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32264/BattleBelt_jpeg-2118747.JPG That looks familiar! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/11358/20211008_083201-2122242.jpg I'm on the fence hard over one of those True North adapters. On the one hand I don't have any serious complaints about the standard UBL. On the other I wouldn't mind being able to tweak the cant a little, maybe. I drilled 2 holes in the ubl on my SLS k frame holster to let it rotate back a little. Worked perfectly. |
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Originally Posted By 96Ag: Do it. I got one of the "blemished" one for a few bucks less and after using it I will buy another for my grey belt that I am re-doing from a Tactical Tailor Fight Lite padded belt into a much smaller Wilder Tactical. You won't regret the purchase. I really like mine. Your belt is an obvious sign that you are man of distinction and discerning taste, the True North adapter would put the final shine on your obviously good decisions to date. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 96Ag: Do it. I got one of the "blemished" one for a few bucks less and after using it I will buy another for my grey belt that I am re-doing from a Tactical Tailor Fight Lite padded belt into a much smaller Wilder Tactical. You won't regret the purchase. I really like mine. Your belt is an obvious sign that you are man of distinction and discerning taste, the True North adapter would put the final shine on your obviously good decisions to date. Why, thank you, good sir. I definitely have to try a few things before I settle on what I like. There's lots that works, but only so many things I like. Then sometimes I have to invert that, like with the rifle mag pouch. I started with an Esstac, but use the taco so that I can switch over to 7.62 without changing anything else. Originally Posted By 03RN: I drilled 2 holes in the ubl on my SLS k frame holster to let it rotate back a little. Worked perfectly. Also an option |
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: The rifle mag pouch is pure sex. I shoved multitools in the pistol mag pouches sideways to get them to stretch out. I was finally able to draw my mags, but having metal mags was just too much retention for me. I cut out the rubbery part on the outside part of the internals and now they actually work really well. View Quote How do the Haley pouches compare to ARF's favorite of Esstac? It seems like the Haley rifle pouch uses their MP2 insert so does that make it thicker compared to an Esstac? |
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Originally Posted By Massan: How do the Haley pouches compare to ARF's favorite of Esstac? It seems like the Haley rifle pouch uses their MP2 insert so does that make it thicker compared to an Esstac? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Massan: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: The rifle mag pouch is pure sex. I shoved multitools in the pistol mag pouches sideways to get them to stretch out. I was finally able to draw my mags, but having metal mags was just too much retention for me. I cut out the rubbery part on the outside part of the internals and now they actually work really well. How do the Haley pouches compare to ARF's favorite of Esstac? It seems like the Haley rifle pouch uses their MP2 insert so does that make it thicker compared to an Esstac? Where are you in Virginia? The best way is to shoot a match and use them. |
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SOON WE WILL JUST UPLOAD OUR RECOIL TO THE CLOUD Originally Posted By iwk: Libs believe in a future that can’t exist, conservative believe in a world that never existed. |
VB area, Freedom(Colonial) does small matches once in a while and C2 use to but im not paying their BS prices now. Only other places I see are either in Nova or NC. :/
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Mine is a Blue Alpha Gear belt. I am using a single Esstac pistol pouch with magnet followed by an Esstac double pistol/single rifle pouch. After that is a Wilder Tactical flashlight pouch for a Surefire Dual Fuel Fury. Next is a Maxpedition dump pouch, Blue Force Gear IFAK, and CAT Trap. Next is an HSGI pistol taco where I store a Leatherman. Finally, I have a Safariland 6354DO for a G19 with light on a mid ride UBL.
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Originally Posted By Massan: How do the Haley pouches compare to ARF's favorite of Esstac? It seems like the Haley rifle pouch uses their MP2 insert so does that make it thicker compared to an Esstac? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: That looks familiar! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/11358/20211008_083201-2122242.jpg I'm on the fence hard over one of those True North adapters. On the one hand I don't have any serious complaints about the standard UBL. On the other I wouldn't mind being able to tweak the cant a little, maybe. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: Originally Posted By 96Ag: I can't remember if I posted mine before so here we go: Esstac inner/outer belt Esstac Gap pistol mag holder Esstac "naked" mid height AR mag holder T-Rex Dump pouch Copy of a TRex med pouch CAT TQ holder Safariland 6390RDS for Sig 320X True North Modular Holster Adapter The True North Adapter is the best purchase on the belt, the mag carriers, belt, holster, etc. are all great but man, that holster adapter is the cat's ass.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32264/BattleBelt_jpeg-2118747.JPG That looks familiar! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/11358/20211008_083201-2122242.jpg I'm on the fence hard over one of those True North adapters. On the one hand I don't have any serious complaints about the standard UBL. On the other I wouldn't mind being able to tweak the cant a little, maybe. Modify the Safari UBL. I did a pictorial on it. Should be somewhere in this thread Hold on I’ll get another pic Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By cavgunner: Modify the Safari UBL. I did a pictorial on it. Should be somewhere in this thread Hold on I’ll get another pic https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/262787/image_jpg-2128979.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/262787/image_jpg-2128980.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/262787/image_jpg-2128982.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/262787/image_jpg-2128984.JPG View Quote Thanks. That's clever and looks well executed. I don't think it offers any improvements of the sort that I'm looking for, however. |
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I like the lateral size of the true north platform. Doesnt protrude as far and let's me get just a little more space on my belt where I needed it.
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Originally Posted By cavgunner: not my idea btw. Cheap and easy. edit you tweak the cant with the belt clip hole alignment. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By cavgunner: Originally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: Thanks. That's clever and looks well executed. I don't think it offers any improvements of the sort that I'm looking for, however. not my idea btw. Cheap and easy. edit you tweak the cant with the belt clip hole alignment. If I understand correctly, that would adjust the holster cant by canting the entire UBL? |
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Originally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: If I understand correctly, that would adjust the holster cant by canting the entire UBL? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: Originally Posted By cavgunner: Originally Posted By Ex_Sanguine_Nation: Thanks. That's clever and looks well executed. I don't think it offers any improvements of the sort that I'm looking for, however. not my idea btw. Cheap and easy. edit you tweak the cant with the belt clip hole alignment. If I understand correctly, that would adjust the holster cant by canting the entire UBL? Yes |
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Originally Posted By 99superduty: I did something similar and found that the holster wasn't as stable on the belt. The width of the UBL belt slots kept the holster from torquing during the draw. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 99superduty: Originally Posted By cavgunner: Modify the Safari UBL. I did a pictorial on it. Should be somewhere in this thread I did something similar and found that the holster wasn't as stable on the belt. The width of the UBL belt slots kept the holster from torquing during the draw. Understood |
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Wilder Tactical has a modified UBL that fits 1.75" belts, I am very happy with mine it keeps the 2" loops on the UBL tight on my 1.75" belt.
https://wildertactical.com/belts/holster-attachments/modified-safariland-ubl-mid-ride/ |
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Ronin Shuto belt Esstac Double Pistol GAP Kywi Pouch Esstac 5.56 Single KYWI Midlength BFG Belt Mounted Dump Pouch SilencerCo Suppressor pouch High Speed Gear med kit BFG tourniquet holder Safariland 6390RDS ALS Level I True North Concepts modular holster adapter True North Concepts MHA leg strap kit |
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Placeholder for my big esstac order and the new holster being on the way. And I'll get around to showing of the m81 dump pouch glock loving redleg graced me with.
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Originally Posted By HUCK70: Wilder Tactical has a modified UBL that fits 1.75" belts, I am very happy with mine it keeps the 2" loops on the UBL tight on my 1.75" belt. https://wildertactical.com/belts/holster-attachments/modified-safariland-ubl-mid-ride/ View Quote Safariland use to include small basic adapters with their holsters to make their attachments work great with 1.75” belts. Really is a shame they don’t anymore. |
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Originally Posted By SWedd523: https://i.postimg.cc/Jh9S86sW/Battle-Belt.jpg This has been my relatively unchanged belt for most of the past 5 years of very hard use. This has gotten me through everything from normal Kit(-) range days to multiple Afghan rotations. Recently went from a UBL to the True North MHA and so far no complaints. I have never been a leg strap guy, but I do always complain about holster flip when doing extended stress shoots or CTEs so figured I'd give it a shot as a situational addition. The only thing not pictured is the breaching shotgun retainer that (situationally dependent) sits in the space between my holster and IFAK. Also: big shout out to @GlockLuvinRedleg for the bespoke choccy chip goodness View Quote Simplicity is king. My, also unchanged for years, rig: (I have updated a few things from time to time) |
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How do you like the Spiritus JSTA? Thinking about picking one up. Hows the bulk? Any issue if you roll that way? What are your personal contents? |
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Originally Posted By PBWalsh: @TBAC Joe, How do you like the Spiritus JSTA? Thinking about picking one up. Hows the bulk? Any issue if you roll that way? What are your personal contents? View Quote So far so good. Not bulky at all. I find it less obtrusive than a dedicated mag pouch. Roll that way? I use it for my wallet, work phone, and small notebook. I don't like keeping things in my cargo pocket so this is perfect for when I'm working. |
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I meant if you roll on your hips in the prone position for whatever reason, does it inhibit movement.
Thanks for the reply, they look pretty useful as I’m trying to minimize the crap on my belt. |
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Not sure how long it will be before my son fits in this belt but it'll be ready for him. |
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Anyone seeing any real value to going with a belt like the Ferro Concepts Bison or the GBRS three belt with their Tigris (spelling?) skeletal systems? I guess I can see guys who are running a massive ton of stuff on their belts looking for any weight savings they can get going with them, but really if you're running a pretty minimalist belt set-up I just don't see the value in the weight savings you get. Or should I be thinking of shaving off every ounce that I can regardless of whether how comfortable I am right now? I mean I suppose there is an argument that the less weight the less likely you incur injury and help with long term joint health right? Going back and forth on whether I want to upgrade from my Blue Alpha Gear to a Ferro Bison.
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Originally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: Anyone seeing any real value to going with a belt like the Ferro Concepts Bison or the GBRS three belt with their Tigris (spelling?) skeletal systems? I guess I can see guys who are running a massive ton of stuff on their belts looking for any weight savings they can get going with them, but really if you're running a pretty minimalist belt set-up I just don't see the value in the weight savings you get. Or should I be thinking of shaving off every ounce that I can regardless of whether how comfortable I am right now? I mean I suppose there is an argument that the less weight the less likely you incur injury and help with long term joint health right? Going back and forth on whether I want to upgrade from my Blue Alpha Gear to a Ferro Bison. View Quote I upgraded to a Ferro Concepts Bison Belt from a Blue Alpha Gear / Warrior Poet Society belt last year. I did so because I was never quite happy with the WPS belt. I’m left handed, and the lack of molle on the front right of the belt was irritating, because I typically keep a small pouch there. It was also painful to reconfigure the belt for different purposes. If I recall correctly, the inner belt annoyed me too. It is really stiff, and the way it loops back over itself makes the front right kind of thick. Then when you add the stiff outer belt, you have this thick belt that always seemed to get caught on things (particularly getting into and out of cramped vehicles) that I was never able to configure exactly how I wanted. It worked great for training and competition, just not for actual work. When I switched to the Bison belt, the sense of my belt never being exactly right went away. It’s super slim, very comfortable, rides the way I want it to, and the inner belt is really soft and thin. Makes working in and around vehicles better for me. Works fine at work and on the range, and is easier to reconfigure. So I guess if you were unhappy with the WPS belt I’d say go for it. But since you are happy, I don’t think it’s worth it. Caveat: I receive an annual gear allowance so I didn’t have to buy the Bison belt with my own money. ETA: Just wanted to add that I think for most people the WPS belt is a great piece of gear. It is well designed and will last for a long time. Just because it didn’t end up working well for me doesn’t mean it won’t work perfectly for you. |
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Originally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: Anyone seeing any real value to going with a belt like the Ferro Concepts Bison or the GBRS three belt with their Tigris (spelling?) skeletal systems? I guess I can see guys who are running a massive ton of stuff on their belts looking for any weight savings they can get going with them, but really if you're running a pretty minimalist belt set-up I just don't see the value in the weight savings you get. Or should I be thinking of shaving off every ounce that I can regardless of whether how comfortable I am right now? I mean I suppose there is an argument that the less weight the less likely you incur injury and help with long term joint health right? Going back and forth on whether I want to upgrade from my Blue Alpha Gear to a Ferro Bison. View Quote Originally Posted By hooooon: If you’re happy with the equipment you have, don’t change it. There is always going to be a new shiny object. I upgraded to a Ferro Concepts Bison Belt from a Blue Alpha Gear / Warrior Poet Society belt last year. I did so because I was never quite happy with the WPS belt. I’m left handed, and the lack of molle on the front right of the belt was irritating, because I typically keep a small pouch there. It was also painful to reconfigure the belt for different purposes. If I recall correctly, the inner belt annoyed me too. It is really stiff, and the way it loops back over itself makes the front right kind of thick. Then when you add the stiff outer belt, you have this thick belt that always seemed to get caught on things (particularly getting into and out of cramped vehicles) that I was never able to configure exactly how I wanted. It worked great for training and competition, just not for actual work. When I switched to the Bison belt, the sense of my belt never being exactly right went away. It’s super slim, very comfortable, rides the way I want it to, and the inner belt is really soft and thin. Makes working in and around vehicles better for me. Works fine at work and on the range, and is easier to reconfigure. So I guess if you were unhappy with the WPS belt I’d say go for it. But since you are happy, I don’t think it’s worth it. Caveat: I receive an annual gear allowance so I didn’t have to buy the Bison belt with my own money. ETA: Just wanted to add that I think for most people the WPS belt is a great piece of gear. It is well designed and will last for a long time. Just because it didn’t end up working well for me doesn’t mean it won’t work perfectly for you. View Quote As he said, no reason to change unless you want to. The bison belt is my current favorite belt. It's not about weight savings so much as the slim, super rigid profile of it that I love. That being said, whoever had the idea to use a 1.5" loop lined inner belt against a 2" hook lined outer belt is retarded. |
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: As he said, no reason to change unless you want to. The bison belt is my current favorite belt. It's not about weight savings so much as the slim, super rigid profile of it that I love. That being said, whoever had the idea to use a 1.5" loop lined inner belt against a 2" hook lined outer belt is retarded. View Quote Incidentally today I have completed my conversion therapy to tacti-hipster by taking possession of the FCPC V5 and cummerbund. I need to hurry up and get it filthy so what little street cred I might have doesn’t get tarnished. |
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Originally Posted By hooooon: I wouldn’t kick a 1.75” version of the same belt out of bed for eating crackers, but the 1.5” has worked fine for me. It has held up better than expected, really. And it’s pretty cheap to replace if it wears out . . . Assuming you can find it in stock. Incidentally today I have completed my conversion therapy to tacti-hipster by taking possession of the FCPC V5 and cummerbund. I need to hurry up and get it filthy so what little street cred I might have doesn’t get tarnished. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By hooooon: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: As he said, no reason to change unless you want to. The bison belt is my current favorite belt. It's not about weight savings so much as the slim, super rigid profile of it that I love. That being said, whoever had the idea to use a 1.5" loop lined inner belt against a 2" hook lined outer belt is retarded. Incidentally today I have completed my conversion therapy to tacti-hipster by taking possession of the FCPC V5 and cummerbund. I need to hurry up and get it filthy so what little street cred I might have doesn’t get tarnished. I hated the inner belt. I just use my HTC inner belt. The 1.75 inner belt loop has more surface area for contact which does both 1-better retention and 2-less hook material tearing up my combat shirts and stuff |
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Originally Posted By SWedd523: https://i.postimg.cc/Jh9S86sW/Battle-Belt.jpg This has been my relatively unchanged belt for most of the past 5 years of very hard use. This has gotten me through everything from normal Kit(-) range days to multiple Afghan rotations. Recently went from a UBL to the True North MHA and so far no complaints. I have never been a leg strap guy, but I do always complain about holster flip when doing extended stress shoots or CTEs so figured I'd give it a shot as a situational addition. The only thing not pictured is the breaching shotgun retainer that (situationally dependent) sits in the space between my holster and IFAK. Also: big shout out to @GlockLuvinRedleg for the bespoke choccy chip goodness View Quote I just made a similar change. I’ve always preferred to keep my pistol up higher as I’ve found it more comfortable and easier to draw in vehicles, so I’ve had a high-ride UBL on my belt for a long time. With the switch to the M18 I found out that the 7TS holsters we have sit a lot higher that the 6XXX series I had been using. Picked up a MHA, seems to be solid so far. I’m headed to a high round count school in January though so we’ll see how it does. |
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