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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:42:12 PM EDT
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Ok, I moved to the sticks and need an easily movable / installable safe / locker / RCS. Not worried about breaks ins too much but at the same time still want to secure my stuff up. We are living here full time now (actually left for a week and forgot to lock house up). We are at the end of a long dead end road and you have to pass other properties to get to mine. When ever utilities come here they honk (as they say they don't want to get shot)  The area has low crime and the sheriffs are good. BUT I still want to secure my stuff. I'm building a vault in the future and then will move the contents of my nice AMSEC to it, but for now I want a quick access safe in my closet that the wife and I can move. I have not found anyone who delivers yet. My current safe that is at families is an AMSEC BF that I felt good leaving my stuff in. I felt it would do ok in a fire and stop all smash and grabs. for new property in the sticks I want a couple long guns, NVG'GS, and some pistols in it: 1st choice is snap safe due to some fire resistance and key back up. on sale for $1900 plus $75 Fedex delivery. Would fit just about perfect and hold a decent amount but at the TOP of my budget https://www.safeandvaultstore.com/products/snapsafe-super-titan-modular-gun-safe But that may be overkill? maybe something that has digital keypad and key backup? I was thinking some gun locker and a small business style document fire safe for documents? I have a max width of 38" in my closet that I don't think I need that wide but if it's cost affective why not. Any other alternatives that have digital lock plus key backup? tractor supply has this small Winchester for $350 on sale with digital lock and back up key that I think I could easily install / move with a dolly https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/winchester-gun-safe-20-gun-ts20-30 To summarize for my needs is a cheap Tractor supply Winchester $350 safe about as good as a $2000 snap safe? |
have gun will travel
Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.
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Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.
We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.
Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
| Snap Safe is good, I had one of their vault doors. The steel in it is thicker than most of the cheaper safes you will find. I don't care for the electronic lock though but thats me.. I also live in the Boston Mountains of rural Arkansas. I went with a Zanotti Armor smaller safe. It is extremely well built of fairly substantial steel. It is fairly easy to take apart and rebuild should I want to, although the door is heavy and takes 2 people to properly mount it. We live in a very low crime area, 40 acres on a mountain top but the safe gives me peace of mind when we are away. |
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I would assume that determined thieves will be able to get into both "safes". I believe they use contractor-grade grinders with super hard cutoff wheels, and sometimes cutting torches. I would spend more time worrying about how/where the safe is installed and your security system with multiple cameras and layers... etc. I've heard that when installing a safe, it's important to "build it in" to the structure. You always want to bolt it to the floor/concrete/studs. I've also heard that wire mesh, fire-proof insulation, ceramic tiles, and other materials can dull/disable a cutoff wheel. I would have a few different materials thieves would need to cut through to access the safe. I would have a couple different game cameras that run off solar separate from each other and on separate sim cards/providers. I would have a few sacrificial cameras and a few hidden cameras. Set them up to text you photos and allow live camera view. Install plenty of lights, there are good solar "street lights" for sale on Amazon and Ebay that are very bright and low maintenance. Thieves hate bright lights. Install strong doors, either solid wood or metal, install extra long screws in the deadbolt plate and door hinges... Fix any fences or repair any entry points.... Install shutters on the windows that lock... I would also get close with your neighbors and alert them if you see anyone suspicious, along with the sheriff of course... |
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Originally Posted By Stefan-DSO: Snap Safe is good, I had one of their vault doors. The steel in it is thicker than most of the cheaper safes you will find. I don't care for the electronic lock though but thats me.. I also live in the Boston Mountains of rural Arkansas. I went with a Zanotti Armor smaller safe. It is extremely well built of fairly substantial steel. It is fairly easy to take apart and rebuild should I want to, although the door is heavy and takes 2 people to properly mount it. We live in a very low crime area, 40 acres on a mountain top but the safe gives me peace of mind when we are away. Thanks for the info neighbor! Sounds like we have a very similar setup! thanks for the info on the snap safe |
have gun will travel
Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.
We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.
Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.
We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.
Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
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Originally Posted By CharlesRyan: I would assume that determined thieves will be able to get into both "safes". I believe they use contractor-grade grinders with super hard cutoff wheels, and sometimes cutting torches. I would spend more time worrying about how/where the safe is installed and your security system with multiple cameras and layers... etc. I've heard that when installing a safe, it's important to "build it in" to the structure. You always want to bolt it to the floor/concrete/studs. I've also heard that wire mesh, fire-proof insulation, ceramic tiles, and other materials can dull/disable a cutoff wheel. I would have a few different materials thieves would need to cut through to access the safe. I would have a couple different game cameras that run off solar separate from each other and on separate sim cards/providers. I would have a few sacrificial cameras and a few hidden cameras. Set them up to text you photos and allow live camera view. Install plenty of lights, there are good solar "street lights" for sale on Amazon and Ebay that are very bright and low maintenance. Thieves hate bright lights. Install strong doors, either solid wood or metal, install extra long screws in the deadbolt plate and door hinges... Fix any fences or repair any entry points.... Install shutters on the windows that lock... I would also get close with your neighbors and alert them if you see anyone suspicious, along with the sheriff of course... Tanks for the info! yea we have many other layers. Fences, Dakota driveway alarms, wired / wireless security cameras, motion lights, street light, and I plan on building this into the structure (why I was looking at snap safe). My old safe was concrete with bolts inside sandwiched between thick steel. But as you stated cut off tools are cheap and batteries are also pretty powerful. Longterm when I get my main storage unit I will have to really plan it out. Thanks again! |
have gun will travel
Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.
We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.
Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.
We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.
Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
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