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MI, USA
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Posted: 6/24/2018 5:01:19 PM EDT
I noticed that the last group buys thread was in 2017.
Are group buys extinct? Thanks, Gigas |
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Posted: 6/24/2018 5:51:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Norinco982lover]
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They have to be done by industry partners.
So find an industry partner that wants to do one and we can bring them back. There are specific rules listed here |
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Posted: 7/5/2018 11:05:34 AM EDT
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Largely - and I think a lot of it has to do with retail pricing being so low. The AR market is in a pricing trough. It is hard to imagine a way to get deals cheaper in bulk than are currently available through Primary Arms, Quantico/Proven, Palmetto, and others.
I think that there may be some pricing room in the accessory world - I am thinking Surefire, and others at similar price points - but not a lot. -shooter |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2018 5:14:32 PM EDT
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been wondering the same THING
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Posted: 7/15/2018 10:37:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shooter220:
Largely - and I think a lot of it has to do with retail pricing being so low. The AR market is in a pricing trough. It is hard to imagine a way to get deals cheaper in bulk than are currently available through Primary Arms, Quantico/Proven, Palmetto, and others. I think that there may be some pricing room in the accessory world - I am thinking Surefire, and others at similar price points - but not a lot. -shooter Tough to offer any discounts when there are deals as far as the eye can see. I could see some manufacturers doing some group buys if their dealer network is full of inventory with poor sell through, but that presents other issues with their dealers. |
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Posted: 7/15/2018 11:15:01 PM EDT
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SKD was good for a few a year until last May
One day they will return or someone will.... |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2018 10:34:46 AM EDT
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Its a shame it has to be an industry partner...when several members on this forum, myself included, have run multiple, very successful GB's on multiple forums, product lines and price points.
The best group buys are those in which the buy is coordinated with a company that has a proprietary product or segment of the market in which they are the gorilla, the dominant manufacturer. I have asked about running some buys on here, which fell on deaf ears...go figure. Once Trump came into office most of the buys I was working on were out of the price range we negotiated and kept dropping before we could find a bottom. Decided to wait it out...and it still looks like timing is an issue. There are so many products on the market, sitting in inventory, a group buy here and there is not beneficial to a manufacturer. Most were doing them for marketing purposes and to bring in first time buyers. I feel that is still the best marketing angle. If a group buy was an option, what products would warrant the time and energy required to set it up? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2018 1:08:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tstump1333]
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Would be nice. There is a group on Facebook called "TSL group OHIO" request to join the group and you can get group buys or deals going. You dont have to live in Ohio to join the group, thats just the name of it.
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Posted: 8/15/2018 1:17:41 PM EDT
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I actually just sent @Striker an email for pre-auth to setup a group buy
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Posted: 8/15/2018 2:32:18 PM EDT
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Ost!
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Posted: 8/15/2018 4:40:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By renov8:
Its a shame it has to be an industry partner...when several members on this forum, myself included, have run multiple, very successful GB's on multiple forums, product lines and price points. The best group buys are those in which the buy is coordinated with a company that has a proprietary product or segment of the market in which they are the gorilla, the dominant manufacturer. I have asked about running some buys on here, which fell on deaf ears...go figure. Once Trump came into office most of the buys I was working on were out of the price range we negotiated and kept dropping before we could find a bottom. Decided to wait it out...and it still looks like timing is an issue. There are so many products on the market, sitting in inventory, a group buy here and there is not beneficial to a manufacturer. Most were doing them for marketing purposes and to bring in first time buyers. I feel that is still the best marketing angle. If a group buy was an option, what products would warrant the time and energy required to set it up? They pay to advertise here. If you were one of them..would you be okay with us letting a company that doesn't pay, advertise here? 
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Posted: 5/12/2019 7:17:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Striker:
See all those banner adds at the top of the page? They pay to advertise here. If you were one of them..would you be okay with us letting a company that doesn't pay, advertise here? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Striker:
Originally Posted By renov8:
Its a shame it has to be an industry partner...when several members on this forum, myself included, have run multiple, very successful GB's on multiple forums, product lines and price points. The best group buys are those in which the buy is coordinated with a company that has a proprietary product or segment of the market in which they are the gorilla, the dominant manufacturer. I have asked about running some buys on here, which fell on deaf ears...go figure. Once Trump came into office most of the buys I was working on were out of the price range we negotiated and kept dropping before we could find a bottom. Decided to wait it out...and it still looks like timing is an issue. There are so many products on the market, sitting in inventory, a group buy here and there is not beneficial to a manufacturer. Most were doing them for marketing purposes and to bring in first time buyers. I feel that is still the best marketing angle. If a group buy was an option, what products would warrant the time and energy required to set it up? They pay to advertise here. If you were one of them..would you be okay with us letting a company that doesn't pay, advertise here? Also, what ads?
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2019 10:55:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: renov8]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Striker:
See all those banner adds at the top of the page? They pay to advertise here. If you were one of them..would you be okay with us letting a company that doesn't pay, advertise here? If I were one of the advertizers paying for banner space on this forum, you can bet your bottom $$ I would be running group buys here, not only to supplement my position as a advertizing partner, but as a fellow gun enthusiast. Group buys don't detract from forums...they add a lot of value, not to mention bring in new members. |
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Posted: 5/14/2019 11:10:15 AM EDT
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We have the rules we do because of previous experiences allowing non advertisers to run group buys..
Lets just say they weren't good experiences and therefore only vetted advertisers can run them. We have no say in who, what or when they decide to have a group buy on. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2019 11:55:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Striker:
We have the rules we do because of previous experiences allowing non advertisers to run group buys.. Lets just say they weren't good experiences and therefore only vetted advertisers can run them. We have no say in who, what or when they decide to have a group buy on. That kind of cursory judgment makes this place stale. Rules are supposed to be guidelines, not etched in stone. Did you even read my suggestions on payment? |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2019 1:20:28 PM EDT
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Why not set up a group buy forum, set a fee for each, run the buy with some parameters, see how it goes...then make a determination.
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Posted: 5/14/2019 1:39:43 PM EDT
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Yes I read your post and no..we aren't changing the group buy rules.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2019 3:16:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Striker:
Yes I read your post and no..we aren't changing the group buy rules. |
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Posted: 5/14/2019 3:36:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By renov8: Lame. 
Think what you like..our rules are there for very good reasons..to protect our membership from being ripped off. We've been doing this for a very long time.. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2019 8:35:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Striker:
Think what you like..our rules are there for very good reasons..to protect our membership from being ripped off. We've been doing this for a very long time.. Its no wonder no one wants to run a group buy here. |
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Posted: 5/15/2019 10:35:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By renov8: Yup...rules. gotta follow da rules. Its no wonder no one wants to run a group buy here. We revised them after a group buy got derailed that involved over $50 000 in members money..so complain all you want..we aren't changing the way we do business. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/15/2019 4:08:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Striker:
For your information..our advertisers have no problem with the group buy rules..apparently you are the only one that does.. We revised them after a group buy got derailed that involved over $50 000 in members money..so complain all you want..we aren't changing the way we do business. |
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Posted: 5/15/2019 4:35:28 PM EDT
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then go over there and run another one.
this discussion is done. |
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Posted: 5/15/2019 4:35:51 PM EDT
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