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Posted: 2/16/2016 9:53:11 PM EDT

Neither '9' nor .45, it's 'just right'.

It's 87 all the way.

Posted: 2/16/2016 9:54:48 PM EDT

[#1]

9mm

Posted: 2/16/2016 9:56:42 PM EDT

[#2]

The pussy ass version of the 10mm!!!

Posted: 2/16/2016 9:56:42 PM EDT

[#3]

40

Dumbest caliber evar.

Posted: 2/16/2016 9:56:51 PM EDT

[#4]

G22 owner since the summer of '91. Got a Walther P99 in .40 as well and I've reloaded it since '95.

I'm an early adopter/fanboy.

Chris

Posted: 2/16/2016 9:58:29 PM EDT

[#5]

.40 is only good for shooting Limited Division in USPSA (Major Power Factor).

Maybe Single Stack as well...

Posted: 2/16/2016 9:58:32 PM EDT

[#6]

I'm gonna get in early, because I have a feeling this thread will break new ground in the debate.

Posted: 2/16/2016 9:58:38 PM EDT

[#7]

I have one just to have one. And since it's the only one it is a G35.4 because damn that's hot.

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Posted: 2/16/2016 9:58:46 PM EDT

[#8]

Nah

Posted: 2/16/2016 9:59:47 PM EDT

[#9]

9 is fine.

I love my G19, but I do kinda want to add a G23 to the stable.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:00:15 PM EDT

[#10]

Nope

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:00:26 PM EDT

[#11]

"Just right" is 10MM Auto.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:00:44 PM EDT

[#12]

Combines the drawbacks of 9 and 45.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:03:49 PM EDT

[#13]

Compromises tend to be shit.

.45 is .45 for a REASON.

It knocks dicks in the dirt. It stops bad guys DEAD.

9mm is a pussy caliber, for European pussies.

.40 is the dyke of cartridges.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:05:25 PM EDT

[#14]

Did I make it in before "Well, would YOU want to be shot with it?"

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:05:35 PM EDT

[#15]

45acp is my favorite

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:06:26 PM EDT

[#16]

I bought one to have something to shoot during the last Panic and derned if the caliber hasn't grown on me.

I like .40 S&W.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:07:58 PM EDT

[#17]

I like the .40S&W. My regular CCW, a PX4 subcompact, is a .40. Great gun, great caliber.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:08:58 PM EDT

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Compromises tend to be shit.

.45 is .45 for a REASON.

It knocks dicks in the dirt. It stops bad guys DEAD.

9mm is a pussy caliber, for European pussies.

.40 is the dyke of cartridges.

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Well since most of the country has gone Metrosexual then the 9 is perfect.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:09:34 PM EDT

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Compromises tend to be shit.

.45 is .45 for a REASON.

It knocks dicks in the dirt. It stops bad guys DEAD.

9mm is a pussy caliber, for European pussies.

.40 is the dyke of cartridges.

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I always thought it was more of a "bi" cartridge.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:10:12 PM EDT

[#20]

I bought a pair of G22 gen 3's from Mark at Summit.
They were so cheap they were almost free.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:10:42 PM EDT

[#21]

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40

Dumbest caliber evar.

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Yup

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:11:17 PM EDT

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40

Dumbest caliber evar.

Yup

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:11:50 PM EDT

[#23]

from a purely gunsmith level the round sucks because it beats the hell out of its 9mm parent frame when compared to 9mm...

a 40cal built up from the bottom would be ok...

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:11:58 PM EDT

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Did I make it in before "Well, would YOU want to be shot with it?"

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Well, motherfuckin' WOULD you???

I don't see the .40SW having a defined niche any longer, considering modern hollow-point designs and ballistics.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:12:15 PM EDT

[#25]

More like the red head step child or the off-white kid in a Scandinavian family.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:13:14 PM EDT

[#26]

I have a 9mm, a .40S&W, a .357sig and a .45. I like them all for various reasons and I can't really think of a reason to dislike the .40. I know that 9mm ballistics has come along way since the .40 was introduced but to me that's not a reason to abandon it. The .308 can do just about everything a 30.06 can do but they're still cranking 'em out.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:14:55 PM EDT

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I bought one to have something to shoot during the last Panic and derned if the caliber hasn't grown on me.

I like .40 S&W.

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Me too

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:16:36 PM EDT

[#28]

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Compromises tend to be shit.

.45 is .45 for a REASON.

It knocks dicks in the dirt. It stops bad guys DEAD.

9mm is a pussy caliber, for European pussies.

.40 is the dyke of cartridges.

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Well yeah, but it is kind of a bull dyke.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:16:42 PM EDT

[#29]

By Goldilocks, do you mean inconsiderate, squatting bitch?

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:18:55 PM EDT

[#30]

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I have a 9mm, a .40S&W, a .357sig and a .45. I like them all for various reasons and I can't really think of a reason to dislike the .40. I know that 9mm ballistics has come along way since the .40 was introduced but to me that's not a reason to abandon it. The .308 can do just about everything a 30.06 can do but they're still cranking 'em out.

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Well said Danger. The 308 is like the 40 of rifle cartridges.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:19:55 PM EDT

[#31]

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Compromises tend to be shit.

.45 is .45 for a REASON.

It knocks dicks in the dirt. It stops bad guys DEAD.

9mm is a pussy caliber, for European pussies.

.40 is the dyke of cartridges.

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.45 has been living off a one hundred year old hype train. The only reason .40 or .45 are still relevant is the AWB.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:20:47 PM EDT

[#32]

Which one of you saying the 40 is weak are gonna be the first to take one to the chest? You'll be okay, right? Just a 40.

Full disclosure, I own a G22, M&P40 Pro, Mechtech 40 conversion and an STI Edge in 40.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:21:21 PM EDT

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I have one just to have one. And since it's the only one it is a G35.4 because damn that's hot.

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Yea I just got an FDE G35.4, just because I like the 34 so much.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:22:55 PM EDT

[#34]

I would much prefer to own a 9mm and a 10mm than a 40 S&W.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:22:56 PM EDT

[#35]

No. It's a solution to a non existent problem.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:22:57 PM EDT

[#36]

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.40 is only good for shooting Limited Division in USPSA (Major Power Factor).

Maybe Single Stack as well...

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I've said the same thing for a while now. The only .40 I own and have any interest in is my STI Edge.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:23:24 PM EDT

[#37]

Which reminds me and don't mean to hijack the thread. Why did the .45 GAP fizzle?

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:24:03 PM EDT

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Agreed. First paging this one for sho.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:29:04 PM EDT

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Which reminds me and don't mean to hijack the thread. Why did the .45 GAP fizzle?

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I bought a 37 when they first came out. I traded mine because it was a pain to keep
the gap and acp cases separated.
I traded it straight across for a 629 classic. FTW!!!

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:29:18 PM EDT

[#40]

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.45 has been living off a one hundred year old hype train. The only reason .40 or .45 are still relevant is the AWB.

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Compromises tend to be shit.

.45 is .45 for a REASON.

It knocks dicks in the dirt. It stops bad guys DEAD.

9mm is a pussy caliber, for European pussies.

.40 is the dyke of cartridges.

.45 has been living off a one hundred year old hype train. The only reason .40 or .45 are still relevant is the AWB.

Your response does not even sound human. What the FUCK are your prattling about?

The fucking ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN?

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:30:59 PM EDT

[#41]

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Neither '9' nor .45, it's 'just right'.

It's 87 all the way.

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.40 S&W:

10mm:

Questions?

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:34:20 PM EDT

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Which reminds me and don't mean to hijack the thread. Why did the .45 GAP fizzle?

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45 GAP served one purpose and one purpose only, to sell Glocks.
Which were already selling quite well in normal calibers.

That round is stupid as hell.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:35:34 PM EDT

[#43]

I have two .40's;

A G23 and a G35. The 35 is for USPSA. I bought the 23 back in 1997. Both work great but I have carried 9mm for the past decade. The 23 is still a great gun. I have a shit ton of .40 so both are still useful to me.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:36:43 PM EDT

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Which reminds me and don't mean to hijack the thread. Why did the .45 GAP fizzle?

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Insufficient case capacity. G37 was too fat to fit G17/22 holsters. Limited mag capacity. Pricey, hard to find ammo. Why would you want one when a .45ACP was superior in every way except grip size? Not enough big bore fans with girly hands.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:40:05 PM EDT

[#45]

Here is a dirty little secret:

Unless you are shooting at someone in body armor (primarily LEO's) the mass of the bullet matters most.

Sure, velocity matters, you don't want slingshot velocity.

But a big ol .45 slug will put your target on his ass better than anything lighter.

PERIOD.

I prefer to knock the fucker DOWN.

YMMV.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:44:10 PM EDT

[#46]

10-15 years ago, yes. Not anymore

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:48:09 PM EDT

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What will a .40 do that a 9 won't do just as well? Nothing, except less capacity, higher cost, bigger recoil for slower shooting.

Shoulda never been born.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:48:42 PM EDT

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Here is a dirty little secret:

Unless you are shooting at someone in body armor (primarily LEO's) the mass of the bullet matters most.

Sure, velocity matters, you don't want slingshot velocity.

But a big ol .45 slug will put your target on his ass better than anything lighter.

PERIOD.

I prefer to knock the fucker DOWN.

YMMV.

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How many people have you shot?

Pro tip: bullets don't do what you think they do. No round "Knocks dicks in the dirt"

Trust me.

Posted: 2/16/2016 10:51:04 PM EDT

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Your response does not even sound human. What the FUCK are your prattling about?

The fucking ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN?

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Compromises tend to be shit.

.45 is .45 for a REASON.

It knocks dicks in the dirt. It stops bad guys DEAD.

9mm is a pussy caliber, for European pussies.

.40 is the dyke of cartridges.

.45 has been living off a one hundred year old hype train. The only reason .40 or .45 are still relevant is the AWB.

Your response does not even sound human. What the FUCK are your prattling about?

The fucking ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN?

You don't think the AWB gave a boost to those calibers? Everyone was trying to maximize the biggest bullet they could get into a 10 round capacity gun. If not for the AWB the 9mm would have rolled all over every other caliber like it's doing now post AWB. Nobody gives a shit about .40 or .45 anymore. They are the manual transmission of calibers. Nobody uses it besides enthusiasts.