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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:26:46 PM EST
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So the SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES and the SENATE MAJORITY LEADER cannot be criticized for their poor and non existent leadership qualities but only Trump can be criticized for his leadership skills. Remember the republican party is suppose to be conservative. The president has been fairly conservative. Where is the conservative legislation? Leadership begets leadership. Nothing he does is ever wrong. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:27:08 PM EST
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So the SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES and the SENATE MAJORITY LEADER cannot be criticized for their poor and non existent leadership qualities but only Trump can be criticized for his leadership skills. Remember the republican party is suppose to conservative. The president has been fairly conservative. Where is the conservative legislation? Leadership begets leadership. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When a Republican President can't get a Republican House and Republican Senate to put some legislation on that Republican President's desk, there is probably a problem with the leadership in the Republican party. Whether the President wants to be the leader of the party or not, doesn't change the fact that he is the leader of the party. How about negotiating with the GOPeeeeeeeeee to get some MAGA legislation on his desk instead of compromising with Democrats to get nothing of significance on his desk? Radical idea, I know... Hopefully Javanka might mention this to the President. Remember the republican party is suppose to conservative. The president has been fairly conservative. Where is the conservative legislation? Leadership begets leadership. When the President asks for Obama's DACA to be made the law of the land, AND he cuts a deal with Pelosi/Schumer that empowers them to impact the legislative agenda, AND he tweets out to the "Dreamers" that they won't be deported... ...it sets the tone. It IS leadership. It just happens to be leading in a direction favored by Pelosi and Schumer. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:27:45 PM EST
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Sounds like there is a leadership vacuum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In a word, yes. Regardless of what delusions some posters here hold, the GOPe may be feckless, self serving, power hungry idiots but they don't hate America and want to see it destroyed like Pelosi, Schumer, and the other Dems. The GOPe is at least self preservationalist enough that it knows you can't kill the goose laying the golden eggs. 
Starting at that point is exponentially better than getting in bed with people that hate the nation they represent and want to see fall. Not sure why this is such a hard concept for so many to grasp (not singling you out FMJ3). Now they won't pass damn bill to save their lives. They should have been ramming shit through Congress and putting bills on Trump's desk to sign or veto. Let me know when they put a conservative bill on his desk that he vetoes. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like they have much inclination to pass any legislation. This GOP Senate is a weak and feckless group that is too scared to actually do anything - they care more about their seats than they do the country and I'm not sure why this is such a hard concept for so many to grasp (also not singling anyone out). |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:28:48 PM EST
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Why the fuck do they need to be whipped into shape? Grown ass men should be able to do what's right on their own. All they had to do was the same things they did when obama was president, why is that so hard now? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In a word, yes. Regardless of what delusions some posters here hold, the GOPe may be feckless, self serving, power hungry idiots but they don't hate America and want to see it destroyed like Pelosi, Schumer, and the other Dems. The GOPe is at least self preservationalist enough that it knows you can't kill the goose laying the golden eggs.
Starting at that point is exponentially better than getting in bed with people that hate the nation they represent and want to see fall. Not sure why this is such a hard concept for so many to grasp (not singling you out FMJ3). Now they won't pass damn bill to save their lives. They should have been ramming shit through Congress and putting bills on Trump's desk to sign or veto. Let me know when they put a conservative bill on his desk that he vetoes. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like they have much inclination to pass any legislation. This GOP Senate is a weak and feckless group that is too scared to actually do anything - they care more about their seats than they do the country and I'm not sure why this is such a hard concept for so many to grasp (also not singling anyone out). Why does Trump not use his bully pulpit to whip the GOPe into shape? We were told that's what he was going to do all during the primary and election. Instead that bully pulpit is reserved for Conservatives whom he threatens to primary and then Trump jumps to the solution that it's better to get in bed with the enemies of America for legislation. 
If Trump wanted to whip the GOPe into shape he could but we've seen zero evidence of any effort by him to do so. The issue is that Trump is not a Conservative either and thus is not putting the screws into them to get them on board. Instead we're seeing Trump join Democrats and advance their interests. Is this because Trump is a vengeful guy angry because he didn't get his way with McConnell and Ryan or, because he really does see more eye to eye with Pelosi and Schumer? Who can tell at this point. In any event, it's shit party leadership by Trump and we all lose. By siding with the Dems he is naturally putting himself further behind the 8 ball than if he were to put effort into strongarming the GOPe. If he were getting on national TV and calling out McConnell and Ryan by name for their obstructionism and threatening to primary them on Twitter, you'd see many of the people posting here quite happy but, again, that seems to be reserved by Trump for people like Rand Paul, Mike Lee, and Ted Cruz. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:29:06 PM EST
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All 3 should be criticized. The problem is, Hardcore Trump supporters refuse to assign ANY blame to him. Nothing he does is ever wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES and the SENATE MAJORITY LEADER cannot be criticized for their poor and non existent leadership qualities but only Trump can be criticized for his leadership skills. Remember the republican party is suppose to be conservative. The president has been fairly conservative. Where is the conservative legislation? Leadership begets leadership. Nothing he does is ever wrong. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:29:25 PM EST
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No, they would not have. Democrats would have blocked it in the senate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's a fact. They would have easily passed any relief Bill. Democrats would have blocked it in the senate. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:31:46 PM EST
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No, they would not have. Democrats would have blocked it in the senate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's a fact. They would have easily passed any relief Bill. Democrats would have blocked it in the senate. The relief bill only got three nays in the house. No way every Democrat in the Senate votes no. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:31:51 PM EST
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So the SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES and the SENATE MAJORITY LEADER cannot be criticized for their poor and non existent leadership qualities but only Trump can be criticized for his leadership skills. Remember the republican party is suppose to be conservative. The president has been fairly conservative. Where is the conservative legislation? Leadership begets leadership. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When a Republican President can't get a Republican House and Republican Senate to put some legislation on that Republican President's desk, there is probably a problem with the leadership in the Republican party. Whether the President wants to be the leader of the party or not, doesn't change the fact that he is the leader of the party. How about negotiating with the GOPeeeeeeeeee to get some MAGA legislation on his desk instead of compromising with Democrats to get nothing of significance on his desk? Radical idea, I know... Hopefully Javanka might mention this to the President. Remember the republican party is suppose to be conservative. The president has been fairly conservative. Where is the conservative legislation? Leadership begets leadership. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:37:21 PM EST
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Leadership starts at the top. A legislative agenda requires a strategy AND it requires leadership. When the President asks for Obama's DACA to be made the law of the land, AND he cuts a deal with Pelosi/Schumer that empowers them to impact the legislative agenda, AND he tweets out to the "Dreamers" that they won't be deported... ...it sets the tone. It IS leadership. It just happens to be leading in a direction favored by Pelosi and Schumer. Leadership in congress is extremely lacking, more so than it is with President Trump. When is the last time Mitch turtle McConnell came out and set a conservative agenda for the Senate so the media can understand? Pelosi and Schumer are better leaders than McConnell and Ryan except they are leading away from our side. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:39:31 PM EST
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So why isn't Trump criticizing them? Why isn't he threatening to go to war against them through Twitter like he did the Freedom Caucus? Now all he has to do is support a bunch of primary challengers. That way, when the incumbent wins he will know why his support does not exist. I'm sure his "McCain is no hero" remark helped immensely with the Obamacare vote. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:39:41 PM EST
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So why isn't Trump criticizing them? Why isn't he threatening to go to war against them through Twitter like he did the Freedom Caucus? |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:42:08 PM EST
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All 3 should be criticized. The problem is, Hardcore Trump supporters refuse to assign ANY blame to him. Nothing he does is ever wrong. I'm not disappointed in him because I'm not a moron, I knew he would make mistakes and be imperfect. As long as he doesn't do anything really horrible like start a huge war or screw up the economy I don't care. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:43:30 PM EST
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Why isn't he threatening to go to war against them through Twitter like he did the Freedom Caucus? |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:48:30 PM EST
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He has threatened them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So why isn't Trump criticizing them? Why isn't he threatening to go to war against them through Twitter like he did the Freedom Caucus? I saw plenty of press when he decided to threaten the Freedom Caucus. I even saw plenty of press when he went to war against The Morning Schmoe duo. War against McConnell and Ryan? Nothing... So if he has threatened him it's been rather half hearted and sporadic, especially since he then goes and does things like supporting McConnell's boy Luther Strange. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:49:15 PM EST
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Bullshit. Leadership in congress is extremely lacking, more so than it is with President Trump. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Leadership starts at the top. A legislative agenda requires a strategy AND it requires leadership. When the President asks for Obama's DACA to be made the law of the land, AND he cuts a deal with Pelosi/Schumer that empowers them to impact the legislative agenda, AND he tweets out to the "Dreamers" that they won't be deported... ...it sets the tone. It IS leadership. It just happens to be leading in a direction favored by Pelosi and Schumer. Leadership in congress is extremely lacking, more so than it is with President Trump. When is the last time Mitch turtle McConnell came out and set a conservative agenda for the Senate so the media can understand? Pelosi and Schumer are better leaders than McConnell and Ryan except they are leading away from our side. Why are they finding it so easy to lead President trump away from our side? |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:49:42 PM EST
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WTF are you talking about? This board is full of Trump supporters who are mad that he hasn't done X, Y etc. I'm not disappointed in him because I'm not a moron, I knew he would make mistakes and be imperfect. As long as he doesn't do anything really horrible like start a huge war or screw up the economy I don't care. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:50:24 PM EST
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My representative is a "Freedom Caucus" person and they have met with Trump almost 50 times over Obamacare, budgets etc. Don't be fooled by his Twitter account BS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why isn't he threatening to go to war against them through Twitter like he did the Freedom Caucus? Or is he feeding BS straight to the public? |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:50:52 PM EST
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Bullshit. Leadership in congress is extremely lacking, more so than it is with President Trump. When is the last time Mitch turtle McConnell came out and set a conservative agenda for the Senate so the media can understand? Pelosi and Schumer are better leaders than McConnell and Ryan except they are leading away from our side. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Leadership starts at the top. A legislative agenda requires a strategy AND it requires leadership. When the President asks for Obama's DACA to be made the law of the land, AND he cuts a deal with Pelosi/Schumer that empowers them to impact the legislative agenda, AND he tweets out to the "Dreamers" that they won't be deported... ...it sets the tone. It IS leadership. It just happens to be leading in a direction favored by Pelosi and Schumer. Leadership in congress is extremely lacking, more so than it is with President Trump. When is the last time Mitch turtle McConnell came out and set a conservative agenda for the Senate so the media can understand? Pelosi and Schumer are better leaders than McConnell and Ryan except they are leading away from our side. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:51:24 PM EST
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Fuck the RINOs and fuck the Dems. Fuck politicians. Fuck Congress. Fuck DC. Fuck 'em all. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:53:07 PM EST
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Which side is working with the Democrats on this issue?  Fuck all of them. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:54:56 PM EST
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So... Is his Twitter feed now BS or an effective way of sidestepping the MSM and going straight to the people? Or is he feeding BS straight to the public? |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:55:36 PM EST
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All 3 should be criticized. The problem is, Hardcore Trump supporters refuse to assign ANY blame to him. Nothing he does is ever wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES and the SENATE MAJORITY LEADER cannot be criticized for their poor and non existent leadership qualities but only Trump can be criticized for his leadership skills. Remember the republican party is suppose to be conservative. The president has been fairly conservative. Where is the conservative legislation? Leadership begets leadership. Nothing he does is ever wrong. This is why the majority here don't take your 'type' seriously anymore. I can't keep track how many side of your mouths you guys are able to talk out of - some kind of programmed emotional crybaby response where in the span of 15 minutes, multiple completely conflicting points of view from the same person can made but all have one thing in common - hate Trump, hate Trump, Trump is Democrat, Trump is orange, Trump is a Russian, Trump smiles like a clown, blah blah blah. You'll preach how Trump is the most phoney conservative ever who can't get anything conservative done and 5 minutes late complain how the GOP-controlled congress is terrible and phoney and led by charlatans like Ryan and McConnell, and somehow you don't expect us to notice this? With each bubbling warm diarrhea squirt that you spread your buttcheeks for in these threads, dripping out putrid vitriol and hate all over legitimate discussion, more and more people laugh at what you've become. You put the prestige of your political party (that elsewhere you will bitch and moan about how un-conservative they are) before the country itself. You put the egos you built over the past few years, getting every thing wrong over and over, above the truth. Deep down you want Trump to fail, so you can sit at home with a raging 4 hour hard-on feeling smug and justified in the trail of turds left in your wake. Your egos are a giant statue to your self-appointed political supremacy, but you're scared shitless that people will notice how paper thin the statues really are. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:56:11 PM EST
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The GOPe - they refuse to repeal Obamacare, pass tax relief, build border wall, etc. They are refusing to do anything that they were elected on. You have GOPe Leadership supporting DACA. Fuck all of them. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:00:37 PM EST
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Pelosi and Schumer have done a fine job of leading Trump. Mitch and Paul Ryan are always slow to react and wrong when they do react. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:01:57 PM EST
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So... Is his Twitter feed now BS or an effective way of sidestepping the MSM and going straight to the people? Or is he feeding BS straight to the public? |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:04:26 PM EST
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You make it sound like a Trumps current platform starts and stops at "Fuck the GOP" America doesn't need a schoolyard fight. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes, because they have broken every campaign promise they made to their voters for the last 7 years. Think of it this way, when Schumer says he is going to screw you, he does he dead level best to do it and you see it coming. You also expect it because he is your political enemy. Unlike Paul and Mitch McConnell who makes promises they never intend to keep and stab their voters in the back every chance they get...while talking about how Conservative they are. Falls under the heading an enemy I trust (to try and do me harm every day) versus a supposed ally I can never ever trust and who will betray me at the least sign of trouble. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/179834/IMG_5660-301922.JPG Literally...WTF is going on? Trump goes the way the wind blows him. Call it 4D chess all you want. Most of America is seeing lost meandering and no/little winning. Trump is playing the nice guy and he gets to leave the Republican Leaders whose donors want DACA fixed to square off with their caucus which has take the position for years that DACA was illegal and they would end it, going in Primary season. President Trump doesn't have to damn thing other than say moderate things while the Congressional Delegations roil over this. America doesn't need a schoolyard fight. At this point until Paul Ryan and Mtch McConnell either get replaced or get religion there is going to be no serious reform for the Republican base. The voters of the Republican Party have a Republican President who want the reforms, but a Congressional Majority that is actively hostile to the President the voters elected and the very base that elected the Congressional Majority. We are effectively a Party without Congressional Representation. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:07:10 PM EST
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You have GOPe Leadership supporting DACA.
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:07:22 PM EST
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Sounds like a problem that is negatively impacting President Trump's agenda. He should use HIS leadership to fix it.McConnell isn't a Conservative. Why would HE set a "conservative agenda"? Why are they finding it so easy to lead President trump away from our side? By the way, it isn't just McConnell, we only have about 50 people in the entirety of congress that agree with us on everything. Democrats on the other hand march in a single file line straight to liberal utopia and never stop. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:08:04 PM EST
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If Ted Cruz isn't a conservative, Trump sure as shit isn't one. Unless you're totally blind in which case I could see how somebody could mistake him for one. Actually even then I can't. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I will point out that I was right about the GOPe screwing their voters, I will point out that GOPe dicks including Ted Cruz are not conservative and have proven it at the worst moments. I will point out that I was going to write in Trump or someone else and vote D down ballot. I will also point out that against my better judgement I voted for my Republican Congressman because I thought that shithead might support Trump when he won. I should have voted for the Democrat who ran against Evan Jenkins, because the Democrat might have voted in support of Trump's initiatives and not double talked all the time. I am sure that the Democrat who ran would not have walked in lock step with Paul Ryan. Unless you're totally blind in which case I could see how somebody could mistake him for one. Actually even then I can't. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:09:01 PM EST
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Try to keep up. You are too far behind. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So... Is his Twitter feed now BS or an effective way of sidestepping the MSM and going straight to the people? Or is he feeding BS straight to the public? Well, that or Trump is just doing a piss poor job at Republican party leadership.
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:11:30 PM EST
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Right, I forgot... 87th dimensional interstellar Battletoads... Well, that or Trump is just doing a piss poor job at Republican party leadership. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So... Is his Twitter feed now BS or an effective way of sidestepping the MSM and going straight to the people? Or is he feeding BS straight to the public? Well, that or Trump is just doing a piss poor job at Republican party leadership. Unfortunately neither does logic. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:11:37 PM EST
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Mitch McConnell is the Senate REPUBLICAN majority leader and he isn't a gosh Damn conservative and you expect Trump to "use leadership" to persuade an asshole that isn't a conservative to suddenly become a conservative. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sounds like a problem that is negatively impacting President Trump's agenda. He should use HIS leadership to fix it.McConnell isn't a Conservative. Why would HE set a "conservative agenda"? Why are they finding it so easy to lead President trump away from our side? |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:14:08 PM EST
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That's nonsense. There is absolutely no evidence that the Democrats were planning to block the Harvey Relief efforts. They probably had a plan to block it in the senate and tell the media that the Republicans were not appropriating enough money "for the children" and they were going to argue that the only way to get more money would be to attach it to the debt ceiling. They have the numbers and the media to do that. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:15:49 PM EST
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Lol ok. Sure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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WTF are you talking about? This board is full of Trump supporters who are mad that he hasn't done X, Y etc. I'm not disappointed in him because I'm not a moron, I knew he would make mistakes and be imperfect. As long as he doesn't do anything really horrible like start a huge war or screw up the economy I don't care.
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:16:25 PM EST
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Democrats are liars and spin artist. They probably had a plan to block it in the senate and tell the media that the Republicans were not appropriating enough money "for the children" and they were going to argue that the only way to get more money would be to attach it to the debt ceiling. They have the numbers and the media to do that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's nonsense. There is absolutely no evidence that the Democrats were planning to block the Harvey Relief efforts. They probably had a plan to block it in the senate and tell the media that the Republicans were not appropriating enough money "for the children" and they were going to argue that the only way to get more money would be to attach it to the debt ceiling. They have the numbers and the media to do that. Claiming so is disingenuous. There was absolutely no need to go with the Pelosi-Schumer plan. They had no leverage. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:18:10 PM EST
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Leadership. Not everyone is good at it. You can't persuade an arrogant deeply entrenched career politician like McConnell and Ryan (nevermind the rest of them like McCain, Graham, Collins, and Murkowski) to suddenly work for the President when most of their career they have spent working for lobbyist and have became successful at doing just that. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:19:15 PM EST
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That's nonsense. There is absolutely no evidence that the Democrats were planning to block the Harvey Relief efforts. Claiming so is disingenuous. There was absolutely no need to go with the Pelosi-Schumer plan. They had no leverage. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:21:40 PM EST
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He just told you in his post............Trump apparently believed this keeps Ryan's feet to the fire on other legislation because Ryan's plan apparently was designed to allow him to dodge making any policy decisions/votes, etc., until after the 2018 elections. That's what he said in his post.........I do NOT know if that is accurate though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So is Trump so ineffective and boxed in that he cannot get anything done without kowtowing to Democrats, or is he so powerful that he's playing 6D chess and outwitting everyone, Repub and Dem alike? You think a 3 month deal sucks, what do you think the McConnell/Ryan Compromise would have looked like? Pelosi and Schumer wanted the debt ceiling to remain an issue that they could leverage for MORE in a few months...they got it. They wanted money for Harvey, and zero cuts anywhere to offset the spending...they got it. They offered nothing, and got everything. Where is the winning? Ryan was also pushing for spending cuts to offset any Harvey spending. But the President instead went with the Pelosi/Schumer package. There is no spinning this. The Ryan Harvey relief bill would have passed without requiring any dem votes, but they would have voted for it anyhow. AND it would not have been tied to the debt ceiling increase. Instead, we get the Pelosi/Schumer plan. That's what he said in his post.........I do NOT know if that is accurate though.   I immediately went to see what the azzzzzzhurt was all about. It took me about a minute to find a story that mentioned that Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell were in the meeting pushing an 18-month, that is a YEAR AND A HALF, budget/debt ceiling deal. My immediate response was  The rage I felt was intense, pure, and complete. The Dems did not want a deal that would take the budget off the table, and to get that deal the Dems would have been able to demand pretty much anything they could dream of. It was not about market stability it was about GOPe not having to take any tough decision, position, or stand in an election year. The deal would have lasted until 2019.
Trumps Debt Deal Was Better Than Ryan's. From the Washington Examiner Trump's debt deal was better than Paul Ryan's, many Republicans admit by Pete Kasperowicz | Sep 8, 2017, 12:01 AM President Trump shocked and angered Republicans on Wednesday by agreeing with Democrats on a bill to suspend the debt ceiling for three months, but by Thursday, Republican lawmakers and aides were acknowledging that Trump's plan was better for Republicans than the plan put forward by House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis.
Many Republicans weren't all that happy with either proposal. Ryan was proposing an 18-month suspension of the debt ceiling that would have let the government keep borrowing as much as it needed, and said the long time frame was needed to provide for market stability. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:23:07 PM EST
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:28:50 PM EST
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All 3 should be criticized. The problem is, Hardcore Trump supporters refuse to assign ANY blame to him. Nothing he does is ever wrong. Besides, he doesn't deserve as much blame as you are giving him. Look at congress, listen to them! The entire lot of them are corrupt as hell and scared to do anything that might give them bad media coverage. Fuck congress. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:30:15 PM EST
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Yes, they did have leverage.....you would be stupid to test your luck. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's nonsense. There is absolutely no evidence that the Democrats were planning to block the Harvey Relief efforts. Claiming so is disingenuous. There was absolutely no need to go with the Pelosi-Schumer plan. They had no leverage. Every. Branch. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:31:32 PM EST
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"Republicans" hold every branch of government. Every. Branch. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's nonsense. There is absolutely no evidence that the Democrats were planning to block the Harvey Relief efforts. Claiming so is disingenuous. There was absolutely no need to go with the Pelosi-Schumer plan. They had no leverage. Every. Branch. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:32:26 PM EST
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"Republicans" hold every branch of government. Every. Branch. The democrats will exploit that to the best of their abilities. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:33:46 PM EST
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Certainly not you.... You can't persuade an arrogant deeply entrenched career politician like McConnell and Ryan (nevermind the rest of them like McCain, Graham, Collins, and Murkowski) to suddenly work for the President when most of their career they have spent working for lobbyist and have became successful at doing just that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Leadership. Not everyone is good at it. You can't persuade an arrogant deeply entrenched career politician like McConnell and Ryan (nevermind the rest of them like McCain, Graham, Collins, and Murkowski) to suddenly work for the President when most of their career they have spent working for lobbyist and have became successful at doing just that. He doesn't need me to white knight for him but I don't think you know who you're saying that to... It's kind of his job...
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:36:24 PM EST
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Leadership. Not everyone is good at it. You can't persuade an arrogant deeply entrenched career politician like McConnell and Ryan (nevermind the rest of them like McCain, Graham, Collins, and Murkowski) to suddenly work for the President when most of their career they have spent working for lobbyist and have became successful at doing just that. 
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:36:57 PM EST
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They barely hold the senate. The democrats will exploit that to the best of their abilities. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:38:00 PM EST
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Yes, they did have leverage.....you would be stupid to test your luck. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's nonsense. There is absolutely no evidence that the Democrats were planning to block the Harvey Relief efforts. Claiming so is disingenuous. There was absolutely no need to go with the Pelosi-Schumer plan. They had no leverage. A clean Harvey Relief Bill would have passed, and there is absolutely no evidence that the Democrats were planning to block it. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:38:55 PM EST
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I guess President Reagan was able to achieve so much success, because he had complete control of both Houses. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:40:25 PM EST
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That's why Trump is reaching out to Democrats. I don't like it but if the GOP aren't going to help, if various members want to stop their feet and throw tantrums then they may quickly find themselves out in the cold during budget negotiations etc. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess President Reagan was able to achieve so much success, because he had complete control of both Houses. What part of President Trump's conservative agenda did they "help"? |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:47:11 PM EST
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Well, the RINO's should have realized that if they are going to stonewall Trump's agenda that he will start playing ball with the other team. If Republicans in Congress aren't willing to enact or even work with a Republican president's agenda, then they are turncoat and are worthless to the American people.
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