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Posted: 3/31/2015 4:12:37 PM EDT
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More likely code for "You won't be here much longer." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is that code for "Can't come up with an answer"? More likely code for "You won't be here much longer." It may have been extremely harsh, but it didn't look like a CoC violation to me. Accusing someone of thinking all human life is worthless and being a Nazi, probably is, tho. I wonder if that person will get a timeout? I hope he doesn't, honestly. This is great entertainment. |
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Posted: 3/31/2015 6:06:33 PM EDT
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Dude, you just said it is justifiable to murder innocent children if their parents are assholes, I don't think you really have a leg to stand on if someone else thinks it's justifiable because their parents are shitbirds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Okay so you're telling me people who were enslaved, beaten and killed who kept their faith in God, and God giving warning after warning finally takes drastic matters because they're not freeing his people proving a point. To me and a lot of people, that's justice. Quoted:
I see a lot of atheists who proclaim that they have just as many morals as a Christian and then turn right around and say a unborn baby can be murdered because they don't want to have to pay for the baby, because it had crap birds for parents. Dude, you just said it is justifiable to murder innocent children if their parents are assholes, I don't think you really have a leg to stand on if someone else thinks it's justifiable because their parents are shitbirds. I keep forgetting that wanting nothing to do with your children vs holding people as slaves, murdering, torturing them is totally the same thing. Keep reaching though. You almost convinced me. 
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Posted: 3/31/2015 6:10:33 PM EDT
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It may have been extremely harsh, but it didn't look like a CoC violation to me. Accusing someone of thinking all human life is worthless and being a Nazi, probably is, tho. I wonder if that person will get a timeout? I hope he doesn't, honestly. This is great entertainment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is that code for "Can't come up with an answer"? More likely code for "You won't be here much longer." It may have been extremely harsh, but it didn't look like a CoC violation to me. Accusing someone of thinking all human life is worthless and being a Nazi, probably is, tho. I wonder if that person will get a timeout? I hope he doesn't, honestly. This is great entertainment. Meh, it is what it is. Thinking a group of people as slaves while killing, and torturing them is wrong and should be punished. However when its the Hebrews, Jews or Christians it seems to get a pass and is okay. Hence the comparison. |
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Posted: 3/31/2015 6:17:45 PM EDT
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Meh, it is what it is. Thinking a group of people as slaves while killing, and torturing them is wrong and should be punished. However when its the Hebrews, Jews or Christians it seems to get a pass and is okay. Hence the comparison. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is that code for "Can't come up with an answer"? More likely code for "You won't be here much longer." It may have been extremely harsh, but it didn't look like a CoC violation to me. Accusing someone of thinking all human life is worthless and being a Nazi, probably is, tho. I wonder if that person will get a timeout? I hope he doesn't, honestly. This is great entertainment. Meh, it is what it is. Thinking a group of people as slaves while killing, and torturing them is wrong and should be punished. However when its the Hebrews, Jews or Christians it seems to get a pass and is okay. Hence the comparison. Jinxsters:
I'm sure though you're okay with it. [Enslaving Jews] They were Hebrews. They deserved it. You should put Hail Hitler in your sig. Both of you have the same line of thought. Just so we're clear. You are hopelessly mired in some hilarious biases that require astounding feats of mental gymnastics to maintain. |
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Posted: 3/31/2015 6:37:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay so you're telling me people who were enslaved, beaten and killed who kept their faith in God, and God giving warning after warning finally takes drastic matters because they're not freeing his people proving a point. To me and a lot of people, that's justice. I'm sure though you're okay with it. They were Hebrews. They deserved it. You should put Hail Hitler in your sig. Both of you have the same line of thought. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Nah. You're talking about having morals while believing human life is worthless. Keep talking about morals though. I enjoy having a good laugh. Oh yeah, I'm sorry...god is allowed to kill humans on a whim, because he's god, and he's above morality. That right there is an example of how theistic morality is just made up as it goes along. If a theist decides one day that god wants him to kill people, including innocent people or even children...well, who he is to argue? God knows whats best, better follow the orders. Just like Phil in the OP. I have no doubt in my mind he'd have no problem trampling over freedoms if he thinks doing so would "honor god" or "protect" his sad god from "evil people" who don't believe in him. Okay so you're telling me people who were enslaved, beaten and killed who kept their faith in God, and God giving warning after warning finally takes drastic matters because they're not freeing his people proving a point. To me and a lot of people, that's justice. I'm sure though you're okay with it. They were Hebrews. They deserved it. You should put Hail Hitler in your sig. Both of you have the same line of thought. God set up an elaborate ruse to kill children in order to make an example out of them. It wasn't people "getting what the deserve for not listening" it was innocent people dying because god intentionally made their ruler behave in a certain way. Sorry, that your god doesn't value human life, and is thus by your logic, completely immoral. I happen to agree, the god of the bible is completely immortal based on his own actions. No, I never said that, people like you, and Phil are the only ones talking about who deserves to be raped and killed, both when you need to make up some rediculous false narrative about "what atheists really believe" so that you can point out how bad they are. |
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Posted: 3/31/2015 6:40:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude - that's over the friggin' line.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I always enjoyed the sermon on the mount. It talks about doing certain things, like treating your neighbor as you would yourself, and you will be blessed. It gives a lot of examples of being blessed. However being blessed is different then being saved. You can still have good moral values and be blessed. That's the meat of it. Do you think any of the millions and millions and millions of Jews and Slavs that Hitler killed during the Holocaust did those "certain things"? Do you suppose that some of them may have followed the "Golden Rule", the ethic of reciprocity? Maybe they weren't blessed because they just weren't praying hard enough when the gas started coming through the vents. Dude - that's over the friggin' line. It's just a variation on the same question that gets asked every year in America during tornado season in the midwest. |
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Posted: 3/31/2015 7:18:46 PM EDT
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I keep forgetting that wanting nothing to do with your children vs holding people as slaves, murdering, torturing them is totally the same thing. Keep reaching though. You almost convinced me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Okay so you're telling me people who were enslaved, beaten and killed who kept their faith in God, and God giving warning after warning finally takes drastic matters because they're not freeing his people proving a point. To me and a lot of people, that's justice. Quoted:
I see a lot of atheists who proclaim that they have just as many morals as a Christian and then turn right around and say a unborn baby can be murdered because they don't want to have to pay for the baby, because it had crap birds for parents. Dude, you just said it is justifiable to murder innocent children if their parents are assholes, I don't think you really have a leg to stand on if someone else thinks it's justifiable because their parents are shitbirds. I keep forgetting that wanting nothing to do with your children vs holding people as slaves, murdering, torturing them is totally the same thing. Keep reaching though. You almost convinced me. Both cases involve "innocent children" under your metric being murdered. However one is justifiable and the other not, because God. |
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Posted: 3/31/2015 8:19:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's just a variation on the same question that gets asked every year in America during tornado season in the midwest. I don't care what it is. Atheist, religious, black, white, whatever - it's despicable how some people choose to engage others. Apparently, there is no limit to how low one can go. I, for one, am out of this discussion. |
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Posted: 3/31/2015 8:49:21 PM EDT
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I don't care what it is. Atheist, religious, black, white, whatever - it's despicable how some people choose to engage others. Apparently, there is no limit to how low one can go. I, for one, am out of this discussion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's just a variation on the same question that gets asked every year in America during tornado season in the midwest. I don't care what it is. Atheist, religious, black, white, whatever - it's despicable how some people choose to engage others. Apparently, there is no limit to how low one can go. I, for one, am out of this discussion. meh, don't feed the trolls; they're just looking for attention anyway |
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Posted: 4/1/2015 9:03:39 AM EDT
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I keep forgetting that wanting nothing to do with your children vs holding people as slaves, murdering, torturing them is totally the same thing. Keep reaching though. You almost convinced me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Okay so you're telling me people who were enslaved, beaten and killed who kept their faith in God, and God giving warning after warning finally takes drastic matters because they're not freeing his people proving a point. To me and a lot of people, that's justice. Quoted:
I see a lot of atheists who proclaim that they have just as many morals as a Christian and then turn right around and say a unborn baby can be murdered because they don't want to have to pay for the baby, because it had crap birds for parents. Dude, you just said it is justifiable to murder innocent children if their parents are assholes, I don't think you really have a leg to stand on if someone else thinks it's justifiable because their parents are shitbirds. I keep forgetting that wanting nothing to do with your children vs holding people as slaves, murdering, torturing them is totally the same thing. Keep reaching though. You almost convinced me. He's talking about the children, not the parents. In both cases, innocents are being killed. However, because the parents were enslaving, murdering, and torturing a group of people, god deems it justifiable to slaughter their innocent children as well. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 8:13:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So fear of divine wrath keeps Phil Robertson from commitingRape and murder During Easter Mass this morning, I had a thought that stuck with me specifically about this comment - or at least something like it. While I don't know ultimately what the source of my morality is, the statement above is not how I feel as a Christian about the guidelines laid out for us in the Bible. It certainly would make sense to some people that I act the way I do in fear of divine retribution as Aimless stated above. The fear of eternal damnation is certainly there, but there is something that shapes me much more: The divine love that I'm being promised and being called to emulate Jesus. That, to me, that is the much more powerful message of the New Testament than that of admonishment. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. (Matthew 5:47-48) It is a feeling of positive reinforcement, not a preaching of fire and brimstone. Yes, there are Christians who go around and throw that down like a sledgehammer to make their point, but as this thread has shown it's bound to really rub people the wrong way. Much more important is the message of being called to be God-like in our daily lives and be the best person you can be. Scripture and Christian belief should inspire joy and love in its adherents, which then turn into treating others the same way. My guess - and that's all it is - is that Phil Robertson would in no way mistreat an atheist or feel animosity toward them. His statement, grotesque that it is, to me is more a reflection of his lack of understanding how one could possibly be an atheist as it's not possible to conceive NOT believing in God, much the same way many of you feel incredulous that religious folks could believe in a supernatural being. It would be similar to a non-Christian saying "So let me get this straight: You could go forth and murder a bunch of people in an terrible manner, but you'd go to heaven if you repent and believe in Jesus? You're nuts!" Anyway: Happy Easter everyone.  |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 8:49:24 PM EDT
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During Easter Mass this morning, I had a thought that stuck with me specifically about this comment - or at least something like it. While I don't know ultimately what the source of my morality is, the statement above is not how I feel as a Christian about the guidelines laid out for us in the Bible. It certainly would make sense to some people that I act the way I do in fear of divine retribution as Aimless stated above. The fear of eternal damnation is certainly there, but there is something that shapes me much more: The divine love that I'm being promised and being called to emulate Jesus. That, to me, that is the much more powerful message of the New Testament than that of admonishment. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. (Matthew 5:47-48) It is a feeling of positive reinforcement, not a preaching of fire and brimstone. Yes, there are Christians who go around and throw that down like a sledgehammer to make their point, but as this thread has shown it's bound to really rub people the wrong way. Much more important is the message of being called to be God-like in our daily lives and be the best person you can be. Scripture and Christian belief should inspire joy and love in its adherents, which then turn into treating others the same way. My guess - and that's all it is - is that Phil Robertson would in no way mistreat an atheist or feel animosity toward them. His statement, grotesque that it is, to me is more a reflection of his lack of understanding how one could possibly be an atheist as it's not possible to conceive NOT believing in God, much the same way many of you feel incredulous that religious folks could believe in a supernatural being. It would be similar to a non-Christian saying "So let me get this straight: You could go forth and murder a bunch of people in an terrible manner, but you'd go to heaven if you repent and believe in Jesus? You're nuts!" Anyway: Happy Easter everyone.
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So fear of divine wrath keeps Phil Robertson from commitingRape and murder During Easter Mass this morning, I had a thought that stuck with me specifically about this comment - or at least something like it. While I don't know ultimately what the source of my morality is, the statement above is not how I feel as a Christian about the guidelines laid out for us in the Bible. It certainly would make sense to some people that I act the way I do in fear of divine retribution as Aimless stated above. The fear of eternal damnation is certainly there, but there is something that shapes me much more: The divine love that I'm being promised and being called to emulate Jesus. That, to me, that is the much more powerful message of the New Testament than that of admonishment. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. (Matthew 5:47-48) It is a feeling of positive reinforcement, not a preaching of fire and brimstone. Yes, there are Christians who go around and throw that down like a sledgehammer to make their point, but as this thread has shown it's bound to really rub people the wrong way. Much more important is the message of being called to be God-like in our daily lives and be the best person you can be. Scripture and Christian belief should inspire joy and love in its adherents, which then turn into treating others the same way. My guess - and that's all it is - is that Phil Robertson would in no way mistreat an atheist or feel animosity toward them. His statement, grotesque that it is, to me is more a reflection of his lack of understanding how one could possibly be an atheist as it's not possible to conceive NOT believing in God, much the same way many of you feel incredulous that religious folks could believe in a supernatural being. It would be similar to a non-Christian saying "So let me get this straight: You could go forth and murder a bunch of people in an terrible manner, but you'd go to heaven if you repent and believe in Jesus? You're nuts!" Anyway: Happy Easter everyone.
Couldn't have said it better. I serve Jesus out of love, not fear. People that think we serve out of fear simply do not understand our relationship with our Savior. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 9:01:51 PM EDT
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This thread was alot cooler when we were discussing the pros and cons of the genocide of untermensch hybrid demon-humans with 12 fingers.
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Posted: 4/5/2015 9:05:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread was alot cooler when we were discussing the pros and cons of the genocide of untermensch hybrid demon-humans with 12 fingers. I've seen your toes, Hobbit boy. You're going down like Frodo without potatoes. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 9:06:34 PM EDT
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I've seen your toes, Hobbit boy. You're going down like Frodo without potatoes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread was alot cooler when we were discussing the pros and cons of the genocide of untermensch hybrid demon-humans with 12 fingers. I've seen your toes, Hobbit boy. You're going down like Frodo without potatoes. What's taters, precious? Are they scrumptious? |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 9:07:06 PM EDT
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Just when I thought this thread was dead. Zhukov pulls it back in.
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Posted: 4/5/2015 9:08:14 PM EDT
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Just when I thought this thread was dead. Zhukov pulls it back in. You might say... He resurrected it. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 9:09:33 PM EDT
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Just when I thought this thread was dead. Zhukov pulls it back in. You might say... He resurrected it. lol |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 9:28:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You might say... He resurrected it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just when I thought this thread was dead. Zhukov pulls it back in. You might say... He resurrected it.   |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 9:33:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: During Easter Mass this morning, I had a thought that stuck with me specifically about this comment - or at least something like it. While I don't know ultimately what the source of my morality is, the statement above is not how I feel as a Christian about the guidelines laid out for us in the Bible. It certainly would make sense to some people that I act the way I do in fear of divine retribution as Aimless stated above. The fear of eternal damnation is certainly there, but there is something that shapes me much more: The divine love that I'm being promised and being called to emulate Jesus. That, to me, that is the much more powerful message of the New Testament than that of admonishment. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. (Matthew 5:47-48) It is a feeling of positive reinforcement, not a preaching of fire and brimstone. Yes, there are Christians who go around and throw that down like a sledgehammer to make their point, but as this thread has shown it's bound to really rub people the wrong way. Much more important is the message of being called to be God-like in our daily lives and be the best person you can be. Scripture and Christian belief should inspire joy and love in its adherents, which then turn into treating others the same way. My guess - and that's all it is - is that Phil Robertson would in no way mistreat an atheist or feel animosity toward them. His statement, grotesque that it is, to me is more a reflection of his lack of understanding how one could possibly be an atheist as it's not possible to conceive NOT believing in God, much the same way many of you feel incredulous that religious folks could believe in a supernatural being. It would be similar to a non-Christian saying "So let me get this straight: You could go forth and murder a bunch of people in an terrible manner, but you'd go to heaven if you repent and believe in Jesus? You're nuts!" Anyway: Happy Easter everyone. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So fear of divine wrath keeps Phil Robertson from commitingRape and murder During Easter Mass this morning, I had a thought that stuck with me specifically about this comment - or at least something like it. While I don't know ultimately what the source of my morality is, the statement above is not how I feel as a Christian about the guidelines laid out for us in the Bible. It certainly would make sense to some people that I act the way I do in fear of divine retribution as Aimless stated above. The fear of eternal damnation is certainly there, but there is something that shapes me much more: The divine love that I'm being promised and being called to emulate Jesus. That, to me, that is the much more powerful message of the New Testament than that of admonishment. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. (Matthew 5:47-48) It is a feeling of positive reinforcement, not a preaching of fire and brimstone. Yes, there are Christians who go around and throw that down like a sledgehammer to make their point, but as this thread has shown it's bound to really rub people the wrong way. Much more important is the message of being called to be God-like in our daily lives and be the best person you can be. Scripture and Christian belief should inspire joy and love in its adherents, which then turn into treating others the same way. My guess - and that's all it is - is that Phil Robertson would in no way mistreat an atheist or feel animosity toward them. His statement, grotesque that it is, to me is more a reflection of his lack of understanding how one could possibly be an atheist as it's not possible to conceive NOT believing in God, much the same way many of you feel incredulous that religious folks could believe in a supernatural being. It would be similar to a non-Christian saying "So let me get this straight: You could go forth and murder a bunch of people in an terrible manner, but you'd go to heaven if you repent and believe in Jesus? You're nuts!" Anyway: Happy Easter everyone. Please exit through the gift shop, don't forget to buy a copy of "the duck commander bible" |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 9:35:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Couldn't have said it better. I serve Jesus out of love, not fear. People that think we serve out of fear simply do not understand our relationship with our Savior. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So fear of divine wrath keeps Phil Robertson from commitingRape and murder During Easter Mass this morning, I had a thought that stuck with me specifically about this comment - or at least something like it. While I don't know ultimately what the source of my morality is, the statement above is not how I feel as a Christian about the guidelines laid out for us in the Bible. It certainly would make sense to some people that I act the way I do in fear of divine retribution as Aimless stated above. The fear of eternal damnation is certainly there, but there is something that shapes me much more: The divine love that I'm being promised and being called to emulate Jesus. That, to me, that is the much more powerful message of the New Testament than that of admonishment. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. (Matthew 5:47-48) It is a feeling of positive reinforcement, not a preaching of fire and brimstone. Yes, there are Christians who go around and throw that down like a sledgehammer to make their point, but as this thread has shown it's bound to really rub people the wrong way. Much more important is the message of being called to be God-like in our daily lives and be the best person you can be. Scripture and Christian belief should inspire joy and love in its adherents, which then turn into treating others the same way. My guess - and that's all it is - is that Phil Robertson would in no way mistreat an atheist or feel animosity toward them. His statement, grotesque that it is, to me is more a reflection of his lack of understanding how one could possibly be an atheist as it's not possible to conceive NOT believing in God, much the same way many of you feel incredulous that religious folks could believe in a supernatural being. It would be similar to a non-Christian saying "So let me get this straight: You could go forth and murder a bunch of people in an terrible manner, but you'd go to heaven if you repent and believe in Jesus? You're nuts!" Anyway: Happy Easter everyone. Couldn't have said it better. I serve Jesus out of love, not fear. People that think we serve out of fear simply do not understand our relationship with our Savior. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 9:37:36 PM EDT
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I didn't say it, that's Phil Robertson's message and he's booked up for months at big buck church speaking engagements so someone is buying his message of vitriol. You mean... saying outrageous stuff that alot of people with disposable income agree with or relate to can lead to increased sales? This sounds like economic voodoo. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 9:40:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Phil Robertson uses the time honored tradition of "attacking the other" can't really get away with saying shit about Jews and Catholics anymore so he demonizes homosexuals and atheists. They are "the evil and ungodly and unlike us". Please exit through the gift shop, don't forget to buy a copy of "the duck commander bible" I merely gave one interpretation of what he may have been thinking. Maybe my interpretation is correct, or maybe he's really that cynical and you are right. One thing to keep in mind: They've got a ton of money already. I think he and his wife are estimated to have a net worth of $30 Million combined if what Google says is correct. But I honestly don't know what is in his heart. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 9:44:11 PM EDT
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I merely gave one interpretation of what he may have been thinking. Maybe my interpretation is correct, or maybe he's really that cynical and you are right. One thing to keep in mind: They've got a ton of money already. I think he and his wife are estimated to have a net worth of $30 Million combined if what Google says is correct. But I honestly don't know what is in his heart. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Phil Robertson uses the time honored tradition of "attacking the other" can't really get away with saying shit about Jews and Catholics anymore so he demonizes homosexuals and atheists. They are "the evil and ungodly and unlike us". Please exit through the gift shop, don't forget to buy a copy of "the duck commander bible" I merely gave one interpretation of what he may have been thinking. Maybe my interpretation is correct, or maybe he's really that cynical and you are right. One thing to keep in mind: They've got a ton of money already. I think he and his wife are estimated to have a net worth of $30 Million combined if what Google says is correct. But I honestly don't know what is in his heart. I doubt he's cynical. He's done a lot of great things for a lot of people in need. He's old school. My grandfather was like him. Didn't matter if you were Black, Gay, diseased, or poor. He was a very kind man and would give any person who needed a hand a hand. However when it came to doing the actual sin he had Old testament on his mind. It's like going to a church where they sing the same songs over and over for years and years, then you go to a newer song. Old people hate that. They like to keep what they think is tradition. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 9:45:52 PM EDT
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I didn't say it, that's Phil Robertson's message and he's booked up for months at big buck church speaking engagements so someone is buying his message of vitriol. Or maybe that's just your impression of what he said. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 9:52:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You might say... He resurrected it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just when I thought this thread was dead. Zhukov pulls it back in. You might say... He resurrected it.  YEEEAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! |
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Posted: 4/6/2015 6:44:18 AM EDT
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I didn't say it, that's Phil Robertson's message and he's booked up for months at big buck church speaking engagements so someone is buying his message of vitriol. Or maybe that's just your impression of what he said. "Two guys break into an atheist’s home. He has a little atheist wife and two little atheist daughters. Two guys break into his home and tie him up in a chair and gag him and then they take his two daughters in front of him and rape both of ‘em and then shoot him and they take his wife and decapitate her head off in from of him. And then they can look at him and say isn’t it great that I don’t have to worry about being judged … there’s no right or wrong … and then you take a sharp knife and take his manhood and hold it in front of him and say wouldn’t it be something if this was something wrong with this, but you’re the one who says theres no God, there’s no right, there’s no wrong…. so we’re just having fun. We’re sick in the head. Have a nice day.” - Phil Robertson Which part do you think Aimless is misunderstanding? |
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Posted: 4/6/2015 11:10:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which part do you think Aimless is misunderstanding? The question is about what his intention was when he said that. Was it because he wants to sell more stuff or was it because he made a poor analogy borne out of lack of understanding - much like your analogy about gas chamber victims. |
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Posted: 4/6/2015 12:50:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The question is about what his intention was when he said that. Was it because he wants to sell more stuff or was it because he made a poor analogy borne out of lack of understanding - much like your analogy about gas chamber victims. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Which part do you think Aimless is misunderstanding? The question is about what his intention was when he said that. Was it because he wants to sell more stuff or was it because he made a poor analogy borne out of lack of understanding - much like your analogy about gas chamber victims. So he's telling a parable about atheist children being raped in front of their atheist father, who is castrated and shot and told "ha this is what atheism gets you mother fucker!" because er....er.... |
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Posted: 4/6/2015 4:11:15 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So he's telling a parable about atheist children being raped in front of their atheist father, who is castrated and shot and told "ha this is what atheism gets you mother fucker!" because er....er.... That is a completely inaccurate report of what he said because you read nothing more than just that quote as it was widely reported in the media. You're claiming he implied "this is what atheism gets you," when the next sentence in the report stated that "Robertson ended his example by claiming that the atheists would surely believe that the criminals’ actions against them "just ain’t right.”" So again: He used a grotesque analogy to illustrate that it is wrong and even atheists would think so. His belief that it is God who instills morals is completely incorrect as far as atheists are concerned. To claim that he thinks atheists deserve this treatment is ludicrous though. |
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Posted: 4/6/2015 4:16:51 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is a completely inaccurate report of what he said because you read nothing more than just that quote as it was widely reported in the media. You're claiming he implied "this is what atheism gets you," when the next sentence in the report stated that "Robertson ended his example by claiming that the atheists would surely believe that the criminals’ actions against them "just ain’t right.”" So again: He used a grotesque analogy to illustrate that it is wrong and even atheists would think so. His belief that it is God who instills morals is completely incorrect as far as atheists are concerned. To claim that he thinks atheists deserve this treatment is ludicrous though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So he's telling a parable about atheist children being raped in front of their atheist father, who is castrated and shot and told "ha this is what atheism gets you mother fucker!" because er....er.... That is a completely inaccurate report of what he said because you read nothing more than just that quote as it was widely reported in the media. You're claiming he implied "this is what atheism gets you," when the next sentence in the report stated that "Robertson ended his example by claiming that the atheists would surely believe that the criminals’ actions against them "just ain’t right.”" So again: He used a grotesque analogy to illustrate that it is wrong and even atheists would think so. His belief that it is God who instills morals is completely incorrect as far as atheists are concerned. To claim that he thinks atheists deserve this treatment is ludicrous though. You need to listen to the audio, his delivery is a smug dig trying to convey that atheists deserve what happen because of the alleged moral relativism of atheism and that the atheist is whining that what's happening to them "just ain't right." He's projecting and arguably fantasizing about it as some sort of retribution story. |
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Posted: 4/6/2015 4:19:01 PM EDT
[#32]
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That is a completely inaccurate report of what he said because you read nothing more than just that quote as it was widely reported in the media. You're claiming he implied "this is what atheism gets you," when the next sentence in the report stated that "Robertson ended his example by claiming that the atheists would surely believe that the criminals’ actions against them "just ain’t right.”" So again: He used a grotesque analogy to illustrate that it is wrong and even atheists would think so. His belief that it is God who instills morals is completely incorrect as far as atheists are concerned. To claim that he thinks atheists deserve this treatment is ludicrous though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So he's telling a parable about atheist children being raped in front of their atheist father, who is castrated and shot and told "ha this is what atheism gets you mother fucker!" because er....er.... That is a completely inaccurate report of what he said because you read nothing more than just that quote as it was widely reported in the media. You're claiming he implied "this is what atheism gets you," when the next sentence in the report stated that "Robertson ended his example by claiming that the atheists would surely believe that the criminals’ actions against them "just ain’t right.”" So again: He used a grotesque analogy to illustrate that it is wrong and even atheists would think so. His belief that it is God who instills morals is completely incorrect as far as atheists are concerned. To claim that he thinks atheists deserve this treatment is ludicrous though. He used a very detailed analogy filled with things that never would have come to most people's minds. I wonder if the scenario just popped into his brain or if he spent some time working it out. Either possibility raises questions. |
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Posted: 4/6/2015 4:30:06 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is a completely inaccurate report of what he said because you read nothing more than just that quote as it was widely reported in the media. You're claiming he implied "this is what atheism gets you," when the next sentence in the report stated that "Robertson ended his example by claiming that the atheists would surely believe that the criminals’ actions against them "just ain’t right.”" So again: He used a grotesque analogy to illustrate that it is wrong and even atheists would think so. His belief that it is God who instills morals is completely incorrect as far as atheists are concerned. To claim that he thinks atheists deserve this treatment is ludicrous though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So he's telling a parable about atheist children being raped in front of their atheist father, who is castrated and shot and told "ha this is what atheism gets you mother fucker!" because er....er.... That is a completely inaccurate report of what he said because you read nothing more than just that quote as it was widely reported in the media. You're claiming he implied "this is what atheism gets you," when the next sentence in the report stated that "Robertson ended his example by claiming that the atheists would surely believe that the criminals’ actions against them "just ain’t right.”" So again: He used a grotesque analogy to illustrate that it is wrong and even atheists would think so. His belief that it is God who instills morals is completely incorrect as far as atheists are concerned. To claim that he thinks atheists deserve this treatment is ludicrous though. 60 years ago he'd have been saying "little Jew wife"
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Posted: 4/6/2015 7:29:58 PM EDT
[#34]
Look guys - I'm not a Phil Robertson apologist. I, too, find the analogy horrifying and uncalled for (which I have stated several times) and only thought to describe what he MAY have been thinking about. From what you guys are describing, he certainly sounds like he had a lot of malice in his speech and I (admittedly) didn't listen to it.
Keep this in mind though: Just a few pages back someone ridiculed Christians by saying they ended up in the gas chambers because they didn't pray hard enough and none of you guys batted an eyelash and decried that as being just as over-the-top. |
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Posted: 4/6/2015 7:57:40 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Look guys - I'm not a Phil Robertson apologist. I, too, find the analogy horrifying and uncalled for (which I have stated several times) and only thought to describe what he MAY have been thinking about. From what you guys are describing, he certainly sounds like he had a lot of malice in his speech and I (admittedly) didn't listen to it. Keep this in mind though: Just a few pages back someone ridiculed Christians by saying they ended up in the gas chambers because they didn't pray hard enough and none of you guys batted an eyelash and decried that as being just as over-the-top. Did you listen to the audio? https://soundcloud.com/rightwingwatch/phil-robertson-on-atheist-family-getting-raped-killed |
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Posted: 4/6/2015 10:15:13 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Look guys - I'm not a Phil Robertson apologist. I, too, find the analogy horrifying and uncalled for (which I have stated several times) and only thought to describe what he MAY have been thinking about. From what you guys are describing, he certainly sounds like he had a lot of malice in his speech and I (admittedly) didn't listen to it. Keep this in mind though: Just a few pages back someone ridiculed Christians by saying they ended up in the gas chambers because they didn't pray hard enough and none of you guys batted an eyelash and decried that as being just as over-the-top. |
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Posted: 4/6/2015 10:18:21 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
He used a very detailed analogy filled with things that never would have come to most people's minds. I wonder if the scenario just popped into his brain or if he spent some time working it out. Either possibility raises questions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So he's telling a parable about atheist children being raped in front of their atheist father, who is castrated and shot and told "ha this is what atheism gets you mother fucker!" because er....er.... That is a completely inaccurate report of what he said because you read nothing more than just that quote as it was widely reported in the media. You're claiming he implied "this is what atheism gets you," when the next sentence in the report stated that "Robertson ended his example by claiming that the atheists would surely believe that the criminals’ actions against them "just ain’t right.”" So again: He used a grotesque analogy to illustrate that it is wrong and even atheists would think so. His belief that it is God who instills morals is completely incorrect as far as atheists are concerned. To claim that he thinks atheists deserve this treatment is ludicrous though. He used a very detailed analogy filled with things that never would have come to most people's minds. I wonder if the scenario just popped into his brain or if he spent some time working it out. Either possibility raises questions. I think it is a masturbatory fantasy of his. I saw his swamp donkey of a Wife on Fox and Friends this morning making some kinda butter shit casseroles. That would explain a lot. She's not the 12 year old he married anymore. |
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