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Link Posted: 6/29/2016 9:12:19 AM EDT
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Logic in #NeverNeverLand

#NNL: Since it is clear that Trump will not be replaced as the nominee we must support Clinton.

Concerned Observer: How could you come to such a conclusion?

#NNL: Trump is a threat to our liberty.

CO: Clinton is running on a platform of more restrictions on the RKBA. She is known to believe that government is the solution to every problem. If she appoints justices to the Supreme Court they will be a pernicious influence on the country for a generation or more.

#NNL: As George Will told us, the Supreme Court justices don't matter. Clinton won't really restrict our liberty. Three years ago JEB! awarded her the Liberty Medal. He's a good conservative. If she was a threat to our liberty, as Trump is, he would not have given her that medal.

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He avoided answering the question directly by bringing up Trump.

Given the circumstances, the conclusion that he believes that allowing her to choose justices is unimportant is inescapable.

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Did George Will really say that!!??




He avoided answering the question directly by bringing up Trump.

Given the circumstances, the conclusion that he believes that allowing her to choose justices is unimportant is inescapable.


Jesus Christ............the guy is a fucking asshole.
Link Posted: 6/29/2016 9:14:35 AM EDT
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The Trump thread is boring just people posting "Trump 2016" in big colorful letters.



I'd rather be in here trying to tell everyone how fucked in the head they are when they voted for Romney in 2012, yet bitch about Trump.



It all stems from the butthurt that the most pro 2A guy ever lost to a Mango.  Had Cruz not been in this race this thread would not exist.



Had Cruz been in the 2012 race and lost to Romney there would be a #NeverRomney movement.
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I can't imagine being ass-pained enough to keep up with this delusional thread. Feels good . Do your thing Cinci, you don't come off as a total loon at all!




You'll note, I'm just really commenting on you obsessed Trump supporters who can't help but rant and rave in this thread, because apparently, some people might not support YOUR politician.



Just let it go.  Ignore it.









Hmm. You seem quite engaged indeed.


I am a VERY engaging character.  



But then I am ALSO not a Trump supporter.   I am here, and NOT in the pro-Trump thread.



Why are YOU here?




The Trump thread is boring just people posting "Trump 2016" in big colorful letters.



I'd rather be in here trying to tell everyone how fucked in the head they are when they voted for Romney in 2012, yet bitch about Trump.



It all stems from the butthurt that the most pro 2A guy ever lost to a Mango.  Had Cruz not been in this race this thread would not exist.



Had Cruz been in the 2012 race and lost to Romney there would be a #NeverRomney movement.




 
First....Romney was much more conservative than Trump




Second....There were plenty of Trump supporters who said they would not vote for Jeb or Christie.  What if either of them had won the nomination?
Link Posted: 6/29/2016 9:20:46 AM EDT
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I can't stand the guy, but if you're in a battleground state and #nevertrump, you're an idiot. Plain and simple.
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https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/06/levin-trump-is-mimicking-hillary-clinton




Donald Trump gave a major "economic freedom" speech Tuesday in Pennsylvania during which he touted tariffs and protectionism while blasting free trade.



Mark Levin has denounced Trump's phony "America First" trade policy before and didn't hold back Tuesday night on his radio program either. Levin compared Trump's speech to one that could've been given by the likes of Herbert Hoover or Pat Buchanan.



Even worse, Levin said "Trump is mimicking Hillary Clinton" with his trade and economic policies, who in turn "is mimicking Bernie Sanders." That's why Trump continues to reach out to Sanders supporters, Levin suggests, because his views on trade are actually similar to that off of the democratic-socialist.


Just a note to Trump supporters:  You may not like Mark Levin, but to disagree with what he says is to essentially take a stand on the wrong side of history.



Levin is anti-Trump, Hannity is pro-Trump.  Think about that for a minute.



 
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Second....There were plenty of Trump supporters who said they would not vote for Jeb or Christie.  What if either of them had won the nomination?

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The Trump thread is boring just people posting "Trump 2016" in big colorful letters.



I'd rather be in here trying to tell everyone how fucked in the head they are when they voted for Romney in 2012, yet bitch about Trump.



It all stems from the butthurt that the most pro 2A guy ever lost to a Mango.  Had Cruz not been in this race this thread would not exist.



Had Cruz been in the 2012 race and lost to Romney there would be a #NeverRomney movement.


  First....Romney was much more conservative than Trump






Second....There were plenty of Trump supporters who said they would not vote for Jeb or Christie.  What if either of them had won the nomination?



TRUTH.



 
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That is an accurate picture of Trump supporters in November.
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That is an accurate picture of Trump supporters in November.
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That is an accurate picture of Trump supporters in November.

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Why she won?

That's the easiest question on the fucking planet.

She ran against Donald Trump.

Why do you think he threw his hat into the ring after talking to Bill Clinton?

FFS.
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That is an accurate picture of Trump supporters in November.
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That is an accurate picture of Trump supporters in November.


Very.

Those of us who were against Trump during the primary will understand exactly why Hillary will have won.
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Why she won?

That's the easiest question on the fucking planet.

She ran against Donald Trump.

Why do you think he threw his hat into the ring after talking to Bill Clinton?

FFS.
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Why she won?

That's the easiest question on the fucking planet.

She ran against Donald Trump.

Why do you think he threw his hat into the ring after talking to Bill Clinton?

FFS.

Well being that you are in a swing state, you could take a chance on Trump and maybe help to defeat Satan.
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Very.

Those of us who were against Trump during the primary will understand exactly why Hillary will have won.
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That is an accurate picture of Trump supporters in November.


Very.

Those of us who were against Trump during the primary will understand exactly why Hillary will have won.

But Trump is your only option to defeat Hillary........why not take a chance?

We cannot have Satan win.
Link Posted: 6/29/2016 10:18:16 AM EDT
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Well being that you are in a swing state, you could take a chance on Trump and maybe help to defeat Satan.
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Why she won?

That's the easiest question on the fucking planet.

She ran against Donald Trump.

Why do you think he threw his hat into the ring after talking to Bill Clinton?

FFS.

Well being that you are in a swing state, you could take a chance on Trump and maybe help to defeat Satan.


Speaking of swing states, things are looking great for Trump!

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/battleground-polls-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/index.html

According to Ballotpedia's battleground poll, Clinton leads Trump:

   51% to 37% in Florida
   45% to 41% in Iowa
   50% to 33% in Michigan
   48% to 38% in North Carolina
   46% to 37% in Ohio
   49% to 35% in Pennsylvania
   45% to 38% in Virginia


Wait, what's the opposite of great?
Link Posted: 6/29/2016 10:20:01 AM EDT
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But Trump is your only option to defeat Hillary........why not take a chance?

We cannot have Satan win.
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That is an accurate picture of Trump supporters in November.


Very.

Those of us who were against Trump during the primary will understand exactly why Hillary will have won.

But Trump is your only option to defeat Hillary........why not take a chance?

We cannot have Satan win.


Fair chance in the end I will take that chance just because of my disdain for Hillary, but I don't think it's going to matter.

I think Hillary is going to win anyway, but even if Trump wins we still get a truly vile, piece of shit in the White House who doesn't understand or believe in the Constitution.

We all will lose badly this November no matter what happens, and we have the mindless masses to thank for that.
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Well, ya the primaries showed that.  Trump won a lot of primary elections with less than 50% support.
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Poll: Majority of GOP voters want someone other than Trump



Less than half — 45 percent — of Republican voters say they are satisfied with Donald Trump as their party's presidential nominee, according to the latest results from an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Monday.

Another 52 percent said they would have preferred someone else as the GOP standard bearer

 


Well, ya the primaries showed that.  Trump won a lot of primary elections with less than 50% support.


Tends to happen when there are 16 people on some of the ballots. The problem  in that was the GOPe/Bush Plan. Encourage as many people to get into the race, then have the Bushies tie up the BIG $$$$$$, BIG SMART IMPORTANT PEOPLE endorsements, and then win handily. Then Donald Trump got into the race and all their scheming backfired on them.
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Speaking of swing states, things are looking great for Trump!

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/battleground-polls-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/index.html



Wait, what's the opposite of great?
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Speaking of swing states, things are looking great for Trump!

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/battleground-polls-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/index.html

According to Ballotpedia's battleground poll, Clinton leads Trump:

   51% to 37% in Florida
   45% to 41% in Iowa
   50% to 33% in Michigan
   48% to 38% in North Carolina
   46% to 37% in Ohio
   49% to 35% in Pennsylvania
   45% to 38% in Virginia


Wait, what's the opposite of great?


CNN polls?

How about RCP polling...................
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Many experienced GOP strategists unwilling to work for Trump

While there are exceptions, many strategists who best understand the mechanics of presidential politics fear that taking a Trump paycheck might stain their resumes, spook other clients and even cause problems at home. They also are reluctant to devote months to a divisive candidate whose campaign has been plagued by infighting and disorganization.
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Chris Wilson, a senior aide to Ted Cruz, said the Texas senator's entire paid staff of more than 150 ignored encouragement from Trump's team to apply for positions after Cruz quit the presidential race. Wilson said that even now, many unemployed Cruz aides are refusing to work for the man who called their former boss "Lyin' Ted."

That's the case for Scott Smith, a Texas-based operative who traveled the country planning events for Cruz, and earlier worked on presidential bids for Bush and Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

"It's very clear that none of us are going to work for Trump," Smith said. "Even if I wanted to work for Trump, my wife would kill me."


Sooo basiscallly fuck them.
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Another example of Donald J Trump actively working to lose.
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Just dropping in to say that I am 100% still not voting for Trump.

Also...

http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016/06/28/donald-trump-campaign-committing-campaign-finance-felonies/


Another example of Donald J Trump actively working to lose.


As opposed to the Constitutional Scholar Cruz who is now under two FEC Investigations for his activities?
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If Trump wants to win, he should try to be a better candidate, and try to get more people to support him.  


If he wants our votes, he needs to earn them.
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If Trump wants to win, he should try to be a better candidate, and try to get more people to support him.  


If he wants our votes, he needs to earn them.
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If Trump wants to win, he should try to be a better candidate, and try to get more people to support him.  


If he wants our votes, he needs to earn them.

Hopefully as time goes on he can narrow the gap........he is our ONLY chance to defeat Satan.
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Hopefully as time goes on he can narrow the gap........he is our ONLY chance to defeat Satan.
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If Trump wants to win, he should try to be a better candidate, and try to get more people to support him.  


If he wants our votes, he needs to earn them.

Hopefully as time goes on he can narrow the gap........he is our ONLY chance to defeat Satan.


Cruz lost, and it was Cruz's fault.

Perry lost, an it was Perry's fault.

Walker lost, and it was Walker's fault.

Rubio lost, and it was Rubio's fault.

Etc.




When Trump loses, who will be at fault?
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Trump supporters having been denying responsibility for this mess for as long as they've owned it.  They want excuses- they need excuses.

Also, I can't tell who's trying harder to divide the party- Trump supporters or Trump himself.

The guy who pledged a billion dollars to win the presidency isn't spending anything in the general and is begging for donations.   He's looking exactly like the con man that Trump supporters were warned about.
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Trump supporters having been denying responsibility for this mess for as long as they've owned it.  They want excuses- they need excuses.

Also, I can't tell who's trying harder to divide the party- Trump supporters or Trump himself.

The guy who pledged a billion dollars to win the presidency isn't spending anything in the general and is begging for donations.   He looking exactly like the con man that Trump supporters were warned about.
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When Trump loses, who will be at fault?


Trump supporters having been denying responsibility for this mess for as long as they've owned it.  They want excuses- they need excuses.

Also, I can't tell who's trying harder to divide the party- Trump supporters or Trump himself.

The guy who pledged a billion dollars to win the presidency isn't spending anything in the general and is begging for donations.   He looking exactly like the con man that Trump supporters were warned about.

You just don't understand how business works.
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Bush Derangement Syndrome


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How original!
I'll bet that took days and days of concentrated thinking on your part.
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There is three sides to this-  Our side, their side, and Trump's side.

If Trump isn't doing anything to help our side, or even his own side, than their side wins.

So you have to ask yourself why this makes sense.
The only logical answer is that Trump's side and their side is in cahoots.

Replace that fucking con man at the convention and try to save what's left of the resistance to their side.
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Sadly, many (perhaps even most) strawmen think more clearly than those who dwell in #NeverNeverLand.

Not even the Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz believed that Thucydides wrote about  a mn who would not be born for thousands of years.
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There is three sides to this-  Our side, their side, and Trump's side.

If Trump isn't doing anything to help our side, or even his own side, than their side wins.

So you have to ask yourself why this makes sense.
The only logical answer is that Trump's side and their side is in cahoots.

Replace that fucking con man at the convention and try to save what's left of the resistance to their side.
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Hopefully as time goes on he can narrow the gap........he is our ONLY chance to defeat Satan.


There is three sides to this-  Our side, their side, and Trump's side.

If Trump isn't doing anything to help our side, or even his own side, than their side wins.

So you have to ask yourself why this makes sense.
The only logical answer is that Trump's side and their side is in cahoots.

Replace that fucking con man at the convention and try to save what's left of the resistance to their side.


Listen, it's not like Trump called Bill Clinton and then entered the GOP race.

What's that?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html

Former president Bill Clinton had a private telephone conversation in late spring with Donald Trump at the same time that the billionaire investor and reality-television star was nearing a decision to run for the White House, according to associates of both men.

Four Trump allies and one Clinton associate familiar with the exchange said that Clinton encouraged Trump’s efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party and offered his own views of the political landscape.


Nevermind.
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Jesus Christ............the guy is a fucking asshole.
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Did George Will really say that!!??




He avoided answering the question directly by bringing up Trump.

Given the circumstances, the conclusion that he believes that allowing her to choose justices is unimportant is inescapable.


Jesus Christ............the guy is a fucking asshole.


You must take his audience into account.
He's not seeking to convince the brightest bulbs in the string of lights.
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Sadly, many (perhaps even most) strawmen think more clearly than those who dwell in #NeverNeverLand.

Not even the Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz believed that Thucydides wrote about  a mn who would not be born for thousands of years.
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Do you find arguing with Strawmen to be easier?


Sadly, many (perhaps even most) strawmen think more clearly than those who dwell in #NeverNeverLand.

Not even the Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz believed that Thucydides wrote about  a mn who would not be born for thousands of years.

You posts are getting more and more incoherent.  Another week or two of disappointing poll numbers and I am afraid you'll be posting nothing but muddled garble like EXPY37.
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As opposed to the Constitutional Scholar Cruz who is now under two FEC Investigations for his activities?
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Just dropping in to say that I am 100% still not voting for Trump.

Also...

http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016/06/28/donald-trump-campaign-committing-campaign-finance-felonies/


Another example of Donald J Trump actively working to lose.


As opposed to the Constitutional Scholar Cruz who is now under two FEC Investigations for his activities?


Cruz is no more under "Investigation" than sTrump is for Child Molestation

Some Dem Lawyer filing a complaint does not equal an "Investigation"


But you know this
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DAVID FRENCH 2016 !!

Er, ... Never mind.
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Listen, it's not like Trump called Bill Clinton and then entered the GOP race.

What's that?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html


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Hopefully as time goes on he can narrow the gap........he is our ONLY chance to defeat Satan.


There is three sides to this-  Our side, their side, and Trump's side.

If Trump isn't doing anything to help our side, or even his own side, than their side wins.

So you have to ask yourself why this makes sense.
The only logical answer is that Trump's side and their side is in cahoots.

Replace that fucking con man at the convention and try to save what's left of the resistance to their side.


Listen, it's not like Trump called Bill Clinton and then entered the GOP race.

What's that?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html

Former president Bill Clinton had a private telephone conversation in late spring with Donald Trump at the same time that the billionaire investor and reality-television star was nearing a decision to run for the White House, according to associates of both men.

Four Trump allies and one Clinton associate familiar with the exchange said that Clinton encouraged Trump’s efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party and offered his own views of the political landscape.


Nevermind.



Probably only agreeing not to bring up Epstein during the Elections
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The fact that you don't understand them is not evidence that the posts are "... incoherent.".

It's evidence that you are living in #NeveNeverLand where standard logic does not apply.
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The fact that you don't understand them is not evidence that the posts are "... incoherent.".

It's evidence that you are living in #NeveNeverLand where standard logic does not apply.
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You posts are getting more and more incoherent.


The fact that you don't understand them is not evidence that the posts are "... incoherent.".

It's evidence that you are living in #NeveNeverLand where standard logic does not apply.

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You posts are getting more and more incoherent.


The fact that you don't understand them is not evidence that the posts are "... incoherent.".

It's evidence that you are living in #NeveNeverLand where standard logic does not apply.

http://rs1272.pbsrc.com/albums/y392/DoctorLime/Gifs/Hairflip/jlaw-okay_zpse31239da.gif~c200


Another original thinker.
It seems that #NeverNeverLand is full of them.
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It has already been decided. Clinton will be the President.

Liberty will die a slow and agonizing death in this nation.
This bloated oligarchy has been left unchecked for too long to turn around..

It was a good ride, America!

Thus endith
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Romney was not more conservative than Trump. Romney is a globalist gun grabber.
Link Posted: 6/29/2016 11:41:22 AM EDT
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Romney was not more conservative than Trump. Romney is a globalist gun grabber.
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Of the two presidential candidates, which one said they would not propose any new gun laws?

I'll give you a hint, its not the one from NY

Link Posted: 6/29/2016 11:42:36 AM EDT
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