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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:15:29 PM EDT
Not hotlinked because fuck Rolling Stone. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/4-pro-gun-arguments-were-sick-of-hearing-20151001?page=2 2. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." If you prefer pithy sayings to hard evidence, I can see why this would be convincing. But if you look at the real world, you'll find that far from being our only hope, good guys with guns are barely any help at all. No mass shootings in the past 30 years have been stopped by an armed civilian; in 1982, an armed civilian successfully killed a shooter, but it was only after he committed his crime. It's not that there aren't enough guns, either. There are as many guns as people in this country, and fully a third of people are armed. Even when shootings happen in gun-happy places, where armed people are sure to be nearby, this vigilante scenario simply doesn't work. That's because pulling a gun out and shooting back in the chaos of a mass shooting just makes things worse, as was discovered when a would-be hero at the 2011 shooting of Gabby Giffords very nearly shot the wrong man. (The actual shooter was tackled by an elderly man.) What a bunch of fucking jackoffs.  |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:16:39 PM EDT
[#1]
Well fuck them.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:18:45 PM EDT
[#2]
fuck rolling stone, their douchebag readers, their mothers, fathers and siblings...
what would that pack of asswipes know about a fucking thing... |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:20:25 PM EDT
[#3]
What about pulling it but not firing? Theyre forgeting about the Clackamas Mall shooting.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:20:54 PM EDT
[#4]
Strawman argument.
Since active shooters by nature choose areas that are offlimits to "good" guy law abiding folks I guess we'll never know. Also who do they think actually puts these fuckers down in the end? Oh, guess I saw that one coming, we can't paint the police in a positive manner since we're the MSM. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:21:02 PM EDT
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Better you stand there and die.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:21:09 PM EDT
[#6]
False. Oregon Mall shooting a few years back; CHL holder stopped a massacre. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:21:20 PM EDT
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My chance at a clean shot is 100% higher if I'm armed.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:22:15 PM EDT
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Yet that is exactly what experience has taught us to train cops to do.
Funny. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:22:20 PM EDT
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Well if an armed civilian stops a shooting at 0 or 1, then it's not "mass" and they can claim their statistics are correct
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:23:56 PM EDT
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Shit! They still publish that rag?
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:23:57 PM EDT
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Why is Rolling Stone writing about mass shootings? Is music so shitty these days that they can't fill an iss--oh. I guess so.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:25:48 PM EDT
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The left wants you conditioned to accept your fate and take your bullet without resistance.
"Just relax, it will all be over soon." It works for mass shootings and communist revolutions. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:25:57 PM EDT
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I'm sickened by that line of reasoning. I really am...
 
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:26:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:26:26 PM EDT
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The only reason the guy stopped yesterday was because the police showed up (with guns) and got into a firefight.
Fucking idiots. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:26:31 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Strawman argument. Since active shooters by nature choose areas that are offlimits to "good" guy law abiding folks I guess we'll never know. Also who do they think actually puts these fuckers down in the end? Oh, guess I saw that one coming, we can't paint the police in a positive manner since we're the MSM. I'll go with this. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:27:15 PM EDT
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The only thing a Rolling Stone magazine is good for is rolling up real tight and hitting the author of that piece in the nose.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:28:12 PM EDT
[#18]
Why call the cops then?
They might... *GASP*....shoot back! 
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:29:42 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Not hotlinked because fuck Rolling Stone. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/4-pro-gun-arguments-were-sick-of-hearing-20151001?page=2 2. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." If you prefer pithy sayings to hard evidence, I can see why this would be convincing. But if you look at the real world, you'll find that far from being our only hope, good guys with guns are barely any help at all. No mass shootings in the past 30 years have been stopped by an armed civilian; in 1982, an armed civilian successfully killed a shooter, but it was only after he committed his crime. It's not that there aren't enough guns, either. There are as many guns as people in this country, and fully a third of people are armed. Even when shootings happen in gun-happy places, where armed people are sure to be nearby, this vigilante scenario simply doesn't work. That's because pulling a gun out and shooting back in the chaos of a mass shooting just makes things worse, as was discovered when a would-be hero at the 2011 shooting of Gabby Giffords very nearly shot the wrong man. (The actual shooter was tackled by an elderly man.) What a bunch of fucking jackoffs. Agreed, especially in this instance(OR college shooting) when allegedly the shooter was asking people their religion and waiting for them to respond. Someone concealed carrying would have plenty of time to get a decent shot off as long as you're not the person the shooter is talking to. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:29:45 PM EDT
[#20]
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Why call the cops then? They might... *GASP*....shoot back! Seriously. I know this sounds fucked but as soon as someone goes "good guys with guns rarely stop mass shootings", I immediately go, well the police should just show up and go "continue on" then because that essentially what they are Saying. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:30:44 PM EDT
[#21]
as already pointed out....we shouldn't even call the officers then.
The crime has already been committed by the time you dial 911...so why go through the motions? |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:31:22 PM EDT
[#22]
So is their favorite victim of rape culture still packing her mattress around?
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:35:24 PM EDT
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I think this guy was shot by police right?
Could've been an armed campus cop but GFZ. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:38:30 PM EDT
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The rolling stone has proven itself to be populated by drooling nitwits, why even post anything they have to say?
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:38:31 PM EDT
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Just call 911 and the good guys will show up and throw water balloons full of kindness at them.
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:38:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:42:25 PM EDT
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I just don't understand how we have become so weak minded. I'm so sick of all the anti gun liberal BS it just makes my blood boil
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:46:50 PM EDT
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I just don't understand how we have become so weak minded. I'm so sick of all the anti gun liberal BS it just makes my blood boil I bet if you have kids, they are in public education. THAT is your answer. Generations of leftist propaganda, from an early age. And no, my kids were NOT exposed to that trash. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:49:44 PM EDT
[#29]
these people clearly have a mental disorder.
your in the ocean, your boat sank and the life raft is only rated for 10 foot waves. the ocean has 20 foot waves some times. best to not have a life raft i guess |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:52:45 PM EDT
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DUPE
Quote HistorySo did they find the shooter and determine he was indeed a good guy who became a bad guy? Last i saw, he was still at large so anything is speculation as to his motives. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:54:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Strawman argument. Since active shooters by nature choose areas that are offlimits to "good" guy law abiding folks I guess we'll never know. Also who do they think actually puts these fuckers down in the end? Oh, guess I saw that one coming, we can't paint the police in a positive manner since we're the MSM. +1 The Left hates the police. |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:55:20 PM EDT
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Yeah, the police should just sit there and observe. Oh? You didn't mean the police? Well, why would it be any different? |
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Posted: 10/2/2015 11:58:05 PM EDT
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Better you stand there and die. To further their agenda, they require sheep to be slaughtered. Fighting back would be counter to their grand plans of control and oppression. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 12:03:13 AM EDT
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Mouth breathers unite.
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Posted: 10/3/2015 12:04:30 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Not hotlinked because fuck Rolling Stone. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/4-pro-gun-arguments-were-sick-of-hearing-20151001?page=2 2. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." If you prefer pithy sayings to hard evidence, I can see why this would be convincing. But if you look at the real world, you'll find that far from being our only hope, good guys with guns are barely any help at all. No mass shootings in the past 30 years have been stopped by an armed civilian; in 1982, an armed civilian successfully killed a shooter, but it was only after he committed his crime. It's not that there aren't enough guns, either. There are as many guns as people in this country, and fully a third of people are armed. Even when shootings happen in gun-happy places, where armed people are sure to be nearby, this vigilante scenario simply doesn't work. That's because pulling a gun out and shooting back in the chaos of a mass shooting just makes things worse, as was discovered when a would-be hero at the 2011 shooting of Gabby Giffords very nearly shot the wrong man. (The actual shooter was tackled by an elderly man.) What a bunch of fucking jackoffs. Don't they have a false rape story to manufacture?
Fuck them and their ilk. They're no friend to us |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 12:05:18 AM EDT
[#36]
There was a mass shooter in a shopping mall that was engaged right away by someone who was carrying, he moved away and killed himself. I think only one or two victims in that event. Don't remember the details as of the location or date.
These kind of opinions come from people who are utterly ignorant about all things regarding firearms yet they feel the need to spout their "expertise" gleaned from movies and TV. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 1:18:36 AM EDT
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Ugh. Talk about failure to apply logic.
Of course mass shootings are not stopped by civilians with firearms. This is simply due to the fact that when a civilian with a firearm is in a position to have an effect on a mass shooting, and does so, the mass shooting never occurs. Might as well say that properly positioned engineer can't stop a bridge from hitting the ground once it's in mid collapse, and therefore having engineers anywhere near bridges is ineffectual. Remember the type of thinking where you never bother to shift your perspective is dangerous. It doesn't matter how accurate your two dimensional thinking is, when the minimum for success is four dimensions. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 1:21:45 AM EDT
[#38]
Next time we will ask the nutcase to go anywhere but a gun free zone and see how it plays out
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Posted: 10/3/2015 1:24:31 AM EDT
[#39]
Honestly, fuck the liberals. If they chose to die in a one way firefight, then let them. I’ll protect me & my family. Self-preservation is a natural right.
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Posted: 10/3/2015 1:25:28 AM EDT
[#40]
Who gives a shit. My duty is to myself and my loved ones. All the unarmed suckers are on their own.
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Posted: 10/3/2015 1:25:45 AM EDT
[#41]
have they ever provided any specific example of a case where a CCW responded to a shooting and made everything worse?
just one? remember how the Oregon mall shooting dropped off of the news immediately when it was discovered that the shooter stopped and offed himself when confronted by a CCW holder? |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 1:34:06 AM EDT
[#42]
Welp, I'm going to do it anyway so fuck off. And while you're at it, duck.
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:11:16 AM EDT
[#43]
First of all, may fuck be upon that rag.
Anyone involved in creating that colleges "Victim rich environment" should be destroyed in civil court. The politicians that wrote in the exceptions to the law and the administrators that took advantage of it.I want to see them jobless, penniless and their lives ruined. We have got to turn this around. We need a groundswell of pro-2nd activism. Our enemies are here and these attacks will not stop. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:25:55 AM EDT
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Jeanee Assan stopped a mass shooting at a Colorado church some years ago. The article is a proven lie.
BTW how can you determine that a mass shooting wasn't stopped when someone stops it before it begins? |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:26:40 AM EDT
[#45]
Type "shootings stopped by" into Google and it completes the search phrase with "shootings stopped by civilians." The first link in the search is from buzzfeed.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/10-potential-mass-shootings-that-were-stopped-by-someone-wit#.quRQgMwKA |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:30:03 AM EDT
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Remember, this is the magazine that glorified a terrorist, destroyed innocent men's lives, etc. they have no credibility and should be mocked often.
Like I was inferring, no fucking journalist works there Edit: link same as the above poster. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:30:35 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What about pulling it but not firing? Theyre forgeting about purposely ignoring the Clackamas Mall shooting. FIFY |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:31:20 AM EDT
[#48]
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Not hotlinked because fuck Rolling Stone. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/4-pro-gun-arguments-were-sick-of-hearing-20151001?page=2 2. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." If you prefer pithy sayings to hard evidence, I can see why this would be convincing. But if you look at the real world, you'll find that far from being our only hope, good guys with guns are barely any help at all. No mass shootings in the past 30 years have been stopped by an armed civilian; in 1982, an armed civilian successfully killed a shooter, but it was only after he committed his crime. It's not that there aren't enough guns, either. There are as many guns as people in this country, and fully a third of people are armed. Even when shootings happen in gun-happy places, where armed people are sure to be nearby, this vigilante scenario simply doesn't work. That's because pulling a gun out and shooting back in the chaos of a mass shooting just makes things worse, as was discovered when a would-be hero at the 2011 shooting of Gabby Giffords very nearly shot the wrong man. (The actual shooter was tackled by an elderly man.) What a bunch of fucking jackoffs. I can tell you three instances within 10 miles of my house in NW Ga where an armed shooter that had or was killing people was stopped by a CCW non-police officer. In just the last few years. Untruthful story is untruthful. Most weren't mass shooting because they were stopped. 99% of mass shooting happen in "Gun Free" zones. These didn't. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:32:51 AM EDT
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I choose to defend myself and my loved ones rather than being forced to the slaughter as were those poor folks in Lubys's Cafeteria who helplessly waited for death to walk over to them,
I neither read Rolling Stone nor live in Canada. 
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Posted: 10/3/2015 7:35:36 AM EDT
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Their journalistic integrity has been disproven since that fabricated rape piece. Fuck them and their printing press.
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