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7/30/2018 9:19:36 PM EDT
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7/30/2018 9:19:38 PM EDT
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In again on another!
7/30/2018 9:23:36 PM EDT
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You’re correct, but I’ve seen the H-3s used overseas plenty. I think the 60s are usually used for VPOTUS level or lower.
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If you want to build a Marine 1, it should be of the H3 variety.
Including Osprey's would be cool, but they are used in a support role.
So are the blackhawks.
Had the impression that the white tops could all be used for VIP transport with the VH-60 being packed into C-17's for use overseas.
You’re correct, but I’ve seen the H-3s used overseas plenty. I think the 60s are usually used for VPOTUS level or lower.
Quite a few pictures of Trump boarding the Whitehawk.
7/30/2018 9:28:18 PM EDT
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I think you have to plan for it to be suspended by a single pole that is located in the center of the rotor hub, so that the rotor can spin.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/46582/download-624572.JPG   https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/46582/hqdefault-624574.JPG

But, it needs to look bad-ass, like this..
http://www.room5lounge.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/large-ceiling-fans-for-sale-unique-helicopter-ceiling-fan-decoration-of-large-ceiling-fans-for-sale.jpg
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I'd love to do it, but the thought of all those moving, even at slow speed, makes me cringe a bit.

Basically 16 feet diameter of rotors moving.  Yikes!
7/30/2018 9:29:36 PM EDT
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In for the T-shirt
7/30/2018 9:29:37 PM EDT
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I'd love to do it, but the thought of all those moving, even at slow speed, makes me cringe a bit.

Basically 16 feet diameter of rotors moving.  Yikes!
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I think you have to plan for it to be suspended by a single pole that is located in the center of the rotor hub, so that the rotor can spin.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/46582/download-624572.JPG   https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/46582/hqdefault-624574.JPG

But, it needs to look bad-ass, like this..
http://www.room5lounge.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/large-ceiling-fans-for-sale-unique-helicopter-ceiling-fan-decoration-of-large-ceiling-fans-for-sale.jpg
I'd love to do it, but the thought of all those moving, even at slow speed, makes me cringe a bit.

Basically 16 feet diameter of rotors moving.  Yikes!
They will look so awesome starting up
7/30/2018 9:31:06 PM EDT
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Tag! First time Ive caught one of these before it gets built.
7/30/2018 9:33:06 PM EDT
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They will look so awesome starting up
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I think you have to plan for it to be suspended by a single pole that is located in the center of the rotor hub, so that the rotor can spin.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/46582/download-624572.JPG   https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/46582/hqdefault-624574.JPG

But, it needs to look bad-ass, like this..
http://www.room5lounge.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/large-ceiling-fans-for-sale-unique-helicopter-ceiling-fan-decoration-of-large-ceiling-fans-for-sale.jpg
I'd love to do it, but the thought of all those moving, even at slow speed, makes me cringe a bit.

Basically 16 feet diameter of rotors moving.  Yikes!
They will look so awesome starting up
I had the thought of them only moving a few degrees, then changing directions.  Combined with the "blurred" rotors, it might make a great display with out the rotors turning 360.
7/30/2018 9:36:28 PM EDT
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The future platform is the S-92, already in production.
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Pictures?  Would references be available if we went that route?
7/30/2018 9:39:01 PM EDT
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Thank you, but let's get the helo nailed down a bit, then we can see what we need.  Simple scale drawings are really all that are needed.  We may buy a cheap 1/48 scale at some point, as little details and angles are easier for kids to work with some times.
7/30/2018 10:02:37 PM EDT
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Looking forward to this
7/30/2018 10:58:44 PM EDT
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I had the thought of them only moving a few degrees, then changing directions.  Combined with the "blurred" rotors, it might make a great display with out the rotors turning 360.
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use an actual industrial ceiling fan

I'm sure ARF can come up with a way to fund the purchase
7/30/2018 11:02:13 PM EDT
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use an actual industrial ceiling fan

I'm sure ARF can come up with a way to fund the purchase
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I had the thought of them only moving a few degrees, then changing directions.  Combined with the "blurred" rotors, it might make a great display with out the rotors turning 360.
use an actual industrial ceiling fan

I'm sure ARF can come up with a way to fund the purchase
Got to remember how much weight will be hanging under that.  Figure probably 170lbs?
7/30/2018 11:03:27 PM EDT
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Tag
7/30/2018 11:07:25 PM EDT
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For now, I need blue prints for a Blackhawk for basic dimensions,  and brainstorming ideas.

Ideas like having a small scale model of Airforce One coming in over top.

Share them here and let us all build on them.  We won't be able to do everything, but much will be incorporated.  More than you'd imagine.
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@guns762 send me a pm and I'll get your dimensions and such.
7/30/2018 11:10:14 PM EDT
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In for the ride!  
7/30/2018 11:19:05 PM EDT
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Backlight the instruments and use cheap (or out of use) monitors with static instrument pics for MFDs (digital picture frames can work for this too).

It might be worth a trip to a nearby aviation museum to get some photos. If not that, there are plenty of scale model publications to give you in-depth info.
7/30/2018 11:27:21 PM EDT
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Backlight the instruments and use cheap (or out of use) monitors with static instrument pics for MFDs (digital picture frames can work for this too).

It might be worth a trip to a nearby aviation museum to get some photos. If not that, there are plenty of scale model publications to give you in-depth info.
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Good prints of photos laminated look pretty realistic
7/30/2018 11:33:20 PM EDT
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I think you have to plan for it to be suspended by a single pole that is located in the center of the rotor hub, so that the rotor can spin.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/46582/download-624572.JPG   https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/46582/hqdefault-624574.JPG

But, it needs to look bad-ass, like this..
http://www.room5lounge.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/large-ceiling-fans-for-sale-unique-helicopter-ceiling-fan-decoration-of-large-ceiling-fans-for-sale.jpg
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our sister factory has the fans like the commanche, only no chopper bodies attached, they work extremely well, and move a ton of air.  extremely huge though
7/30/2018 11:33:22 PM EDT
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Backlight the instruments and use cheap (or out of use) monitors with static instrument pics for MFDs (digital picture frames can work for this too).

It might be worth a trip to a nearby aviation museum to get some photos. If not that, there are plenty of scale model publications to give you in-depth info.
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Good ideas on the cockpit.  Lights and displays...    I like it.

We will have power again to this project.  We will probably have to have the line come from the wall through the tail, but there will be power.  No solar!
7/30/2018 11:44:41 PM EDT
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Dude, yaaaSsssss.

Also, dont you harm that viking boat.  Although it looks pretty plain now, in comparison to subs and shuttles, we all know it wasn't a simple task, in many regards led the way, and it's one of my favorites.

It displays good from up above with the oars out.

Good luck on another great project!
7/30/2018 11:47:23 PM EDT
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Dude, yaaaSsssss.

Also, dont you harm that viking boat.  Although it looks pretty plain now, in comparison to subs and shuttles, we all know it wasn't a simple task, in many regards led the way, and it's one of my favorites.

It displays good from up above with the oars out.

Good luck on another great project!
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Viking ship will look great under the dragon with the sword and shield on the wall.  We've got some ideas how to tie it all together into a more epic display.  Maybe a Viking village?
7/30/2018 11:47:37 PM EDT
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Good ideas on the cockpit.  Lights and displays...    I like it.

We will have power again to this project.  We will probably have to have the line come from the wall through the tail, but there will be power.  No solar!
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Backlight the instruments and use cheap (or out of use) monitors with static instrument pics for MFDs (digital picture frames can work for this too).

It might be worth a trip to a nearby aviation museum to get some photos. If not that, there are plenty of scale model publications to give you in-depth info.
Good ideas on the cockpit.  Lights and displays...    I like it.

We will have power again to this project.  We will probably have to have the line come from the wall through the tail, but there will be power.  No solar!


I can't wait to see it come together.

I have a couple of PDFs with Blackhawk info and pics, if you're interested shoot me your email address and I'll send them. Nothing specific to Marine One unfortunately but extra information is rarely a bad thing.
7/30/2018 11:51:28 PM EDT
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So bad ass!  If I had a teacher in school like you I probably would have paid attention.
7/30/2018 11:51:36 PM EDT
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I've contributed in the past and have the T shirts to back it up. In my opinion  with the space constraints I would challenge my students with a 3/4 2D, 3D representation of your vision. I.e. front part of the helo in scale projecting from the wall and and a 2D mural  backing it up. Like a first person view at a distance with the helo part of it flying towards you and becoming real life as if we're flying over head, IMHO.
7/30/2018 11:52:51 PM EDT
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Always in on these threads.
7/30/2018 11:56:21 PM EDT
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I have time wrenching on one of the S61-Vs.
7/31/2018 12:06:54 AM EDT
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Viking ship will look great under the dragon with the sword and shield on the wall.  We've got some ideas how to tie it all together into a more epic display.  Maybe a Viking village?
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Irish monastery.  Authentically on fire.
7/31/2018 12:12:23 AM EDT
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Once again, IN! Can't wait to see how this turns out, all of your projects have been so cool. Your students are lucky to have such a great teacher.
7/31/2018 12:16:12 AM EDT
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Irish monastery.  Authentically on fire.
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Viking ship will look great under the dragon with the sword and shield on the wall.  We've got some ideas how to tie it all together into a more epic display.  Maybe a Viking village?
Irish monastery.  Authentically on fire.
7/31/2018 12:20:46 AM EDT
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I'm thinking the T-shirts should have  "Squadron" design on them, incorporating our Panther mascot somehow.

Maybe on the mural too?

You think they'd let us get away with the presidential seal on them? Probably not. Who knows President Trump?......we're going to need his approval.

Nice image of our helo on the front ....maybe just a line drawing....angled, nose front and down.  Marine green with white?
7/31/2018 12:23:45 AM EDT
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I'm thinking the T-shirts should have  "Squadron" design on them, incorporating our Panther mascot somehow.

Maybe on the mural too?

You think they'd let us get away with the presidential seal on them? Probably not. Who knows President Trump?......we're going to need his approval.

Nice image of our helo on the front ....maybe just a line drawing....angled, nose front and down.  Marine green with white?
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I’m sure you can borrow inspiration heavily from HMX-1. I know we have alumni of that squadron on here too.
7/31/2018 12:26:43 AM EDT
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I've contributed in the past and have the T shirts to back it up. In my opinion  with the space constraints I would challenge my students with a 3/4 2D, 3D representation of your vision. I.e. front part of the helo in scale projecting from the wall and and a 2D mural  backing it up. Like a first person view at a distance with the helo part of it flying towards you and becoming real life as if we're flying over head, IMHO.
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This is kind of how I was envisioning the White House.  Mostly 3D with mural backing it.

I think the kids will get a kick out of making the White House and Washington Monuments.  Maybe the Capital building?

This is right next to the Government teacher so it all kind of fits.  She also teaches some History classes as well.
7/31/2018 12:31:55 AM EDT
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This came to me in the shower....

Just spitballing....

Marine One is painted up on the hall facing side, but fades to a normal Blackhawk maybe even a medevac painted on the other?  Not a hard line split duality, but a soft transmission fade; 60/40 or even 70/30?

Just an idea.
7/31/2018 1:22:51 AM EDT
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7/31/2018 1:48:11 AM EDT
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7/31/2018 4:29:23 AM EDT
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In on 2

The faded paint idea sounds good, kind of like it going back to its roots.

Might not match the cityscape though...can not wait!
7/31/2018 4:38:38 AM EDT
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Quite a few pictures of Trump boarding the Whitehawk.
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Yep.  I know he visited "my" building in the VH-60 as the parking lot area was a bit small for the VH-3 to land.
7/31/2018 7:11:05 AM EDT
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This came to me in the shower....

Just spitballing....

Marine One is painted up on the hall facing side, but fades to a normal Blackhawk maybe even a medevac painted on the other?  Not a hard line split duality, but a soft transmission fade; 60/40 or even 70/30?

Just an idea.
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Trade the Washington Monument opposite the White House for a Medevac appropriate mural scene. Blend the transitions 360-degrees in the space.
7/31/2018 7:58:22 AM EDT
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Trade the Washington Monument opposite the White House for a Medevac appropriate mural scene. Blend the transitions 360-degrees in the space.
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This came to me in the shower....

Just spitballing....

Marine One is painted up on the hall facing side, but fades to a normal Blackhawk maybe even a medevac painted on the other?  Not a hard line split duality, but a soft transmission fade; 60/40 or even 70/30?

Just an idea.
Trade the Washington Monument opposite the White House for a Medevac appropriate mural scene. Blend the transitions 360-degrees in the space.
White House  and Monument could be more at about 20 degrees and and 200 degrees in the corners of the room.  Inside wall could be Washington DC, at about 90 degrees from the center of the helo, then on the offside wall, at 270 degrees, that isn't easily seen just walking through the space, could be the fade to the medevac scenery?

What scene?????   I' need some ideas.  Something we could make part of it 3D?

ETA: (For all you Traditionalists)We could do the fade to roots for the CH-53 or S-92 too, I haven't ruled out using the more traditional helo if I can be convinced.  

My reasons still revolve around size, although I'll admit it's kind of weak to want to stay with 1/3rd scale, and more importantly, student interest.  The kids are familiar with the Blackhawk platform.  We get them at shows here now and then, and the National Guard Flys over our town with them every once in a while.
7/31/2018 8:03:27 AM EDT
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Yep.  I know he visited "my" building in the VH-60 as the parking lot area was a bit small for the VH-3 to land.
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Quite a few pictures of Trump boarding the Whitehawk.
Yep.  I know he visited "my" building in the VH-60 as the parking lot area was a bit small for the VH-3 to land.
I'm curious if it doesn't have something to do with the type of events and travel that Trump does, compared to former presidents?

He's the only one that I found pictures of using the Whitehawk.  Maybe I just need to dig deeper to find photos of other Presidents using it?   Maybe just a change in over all policy in how the President travels?
7/31/2018 8:08:06 AM EDT
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7/31/2018 8:10:27 AM EDT
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7/31/2018 8:14:32 AM EDT
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I'm curious if it doesn't have something to do with the type of events and travel that Trump does, compared to former presidents?

He's the only one that I found pictures of using the Whitehawk.  Maybe I just need to dig deeper to find photos of other Presidents using it?   Maybe just a change in over all policy in how the President travels?
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Quite a few pictures of Trump boarding the Whitehawk.
Yep.  I know he visited "my" building in the VH-60 as the parking lot area was a bit small for the VH-3 to land.
I'm curious if it doesn't have something to do with the type of events and travel that Trump does, compared to former presidents?

He's the only one that I found pictures of using the Whitehawk.  Maybe I just need to dig deeper to find photos of other Presidents using it?   Maybe just a change in over all policy in how the President travels?
I did quite a few presidential support missions in the 90s for Bubba and company and they always brought the white hawk. It’s a lot easier stuffing a few white hawks in a C5 then the VH3.

The 53 looked liked a bitch to put togeather when they brought it.
7/31/2018 8:16:27 AM EDT
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This came to me in the shower....

Just spitballing....

Marine One is painted up on the hall facing side, but fades to a normal Blackhawk maybe even a medevac painted on the other?  Not a hard line split duality, but a soft transmission fade; 60/40 or even 70/30?

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If you do this, I'll donate a 101st Airborne (Air Assault!!!) decal for the side or front.
7/31/2018 8:16:43 AM EDT
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The faded paint idea sounds good, kind of like it going back to its roots.

Might not match the cityscape though...can not wait!
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Blackhawks rescuing Americans in its own cities is pretty normal after major hurricanes.  Right?  National Guard Flys them.
7/31/2018 8:20:50 AM EDT
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7/31/2018 8:24:50 AM EDT
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In for shirts

cause seriously I need more shirts
7/31/2018 8:30:47 AM EDT
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I wear my Spaceshuttle Door Gunner t, and Locomotive Crew t all the time.  
7/31/2018 8:45:07 AM EDT
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Sounds like another great project to follow and support!

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