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Link Posted: 9/24/2021 5:52:22 PM EDT
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But .gov does
There will be many willing participants to enforce them
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I don't do unjust laws.

But .gov does
There will be many willing participants to enforce them

ZFG
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 5:52:43 PM EDT
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They get extra points for violating two Amendments in the Bill of Rights at the same time: The Second and Fifth.
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Sixth?
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 5:53:49 PM EDT
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So we need a good test case.
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Test case for what? It's not like there are judges who care about rule of law, or due process, or anything like that. Keep thinking there's some way government can fix what government screws up.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 5:54:17 PM EDT
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Keep voting Republican, they'll get it right this time
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What are you going to do- vote democrat? Throw your vote away on a 3rd party candidate?
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 5:54:20 PM EDT
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Sixth?
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Good point: That too, because it describes the bare minimum requirements for the due process demanded by the Fifth.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 5:54:28 PM EDT
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Why would any Republicans support this? What do they have to gain? It's not like Democrats need Republicans to pass the bill. Do all these Republicans just feel like this is a good bill?
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@Lieh-tzu

There is no difference between Republicans and Democrats in most cases. It has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with power and control.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 5:56:00 PM EDT
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We just gotta vote for republicans next year, that will fix it.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 5:56:17 PM EDT
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Nobody reads the bills until they pass. Even Republicans.

I'll agree with Tim Pool who said that someone like Rand Paul should just sneak "and we abolish the federal reserve" or "and we abolish the NFA" into one of these bills and see if anyone even catches it before it's too late.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 5:56:41 PM EDT
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Why would any Republicans support this? What do they have to gain? It's not like Democrats need Republicans to pass the bill. Do all these Republicans just feel like this is a good bill?
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It's in a defense bill. Lockheed and General Dynamics and what they do (can do for congressmen) is more important than the silly 2nd Amendment for pee ons.

While defense budgets are important, the legislative process is deeply flawed by which one can amend a bill with crap that has nothing to do with the bill.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 5:56:59 PM EDT
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Why would any Republicans support this? What do they have to gain? It's not like Democrats need Republicans to pass the bill. Do all these Republicans just feel like this is a good bill?
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"Republicans" in liberal states or most liberal areas of even red states are just a bit more right of the extreme left socialists.

Kind of like how everytime someone here starts spouting liberal talking points they're from NY, WA, CA, MA etc...

They say "hey guys there are still good conservatives here." A conservative to them just votes for left leaning shit a few years after the left wants something.

Link Posted: 9/24/2021 5:57:40 PM EDT
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Election is 14 months away…
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 5:58:23 PM EDT
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It's in a defense bill. Lockheed and General Dynamics and what they do (can do for congressmen) is more important than the silly 2nd Amendment for pee ons.

While defense budgets are important, the legislative process is deeply flawed by which one can amend a bill with crap that has nothing to do with the bill.
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It's in a defense bill, because gun owners are their enemy.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 5:58:30 PM EDT
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Got some house cleaning to do down here. No surprise by a couple of the names of traitors.

Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 5:58:48 PM EDT
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So who are the republicans who voted for it?  That link is nothing more than “DONATE NOW!!!”
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:00:04 PM EDT
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Enjoy the decline.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:00:09 PM EDT
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So who are the republicans who voted for it?  That link is nothing more than “DONATE NOW!!!”
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Look above your post.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:00:16 PM EDT
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What the hell? This is the NDAA that they voted for and that OP linked to.......not the infrastructure bill....i'm all for holding politicians accountable....but lets not lie
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:00:50 PM EDT
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It is going to be funny when everyone finds out that gun owners/ anti gun owners, blm/cops, antifa/proud boys, abortionists/anti-abortionists are all fighting the same people and don't know it.

The real enemy is out there and they are using all of us against each other.
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May the odds be forever in your favor.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:00:52 PM EDT
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It's in a defense bill, because gun owners are their enemy.
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Yup... and they know the asshole publicans will pass it..
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:01:46 PM EDT
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Got some house cleaning to do down here. No surprise by a couple of the names of traitors.

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Crenshaw

Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:02:56 PM EDT
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It's in a defense bill, because gun owners are their enemy.
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It's in a defense bill. Lockheed and General Dynamics and what they do (can do for congressmen) is more important than the silly 2nd Amendment for pee ons.

While defense budgets are important, the legislative process is deeply flawed by which one can amend a bill with crap that has nothing to do with the bill.


It's in a defense bill, because gun owners are their enemy.


Well, it has been looking that way for many decades. The biggest and the most advancements in the last 20 years have much more to do with urban warfare than they do nuclear war.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:03:34 PM EDT
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What the hell? This is the NDAA that they voted for and that OP linked to.......not the infrastructure bill....i'm all for holding politicians accountable....but lets not lie
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Wanna know how I know you didn't read the article?

And that isn't the end of it, H.R. 4350 (FY22 National Defense Authorization Act) has funding for Military Court Gun Confiscation Orders, gun confiscation directed at those serving in the U.S. Armed Forced. These orders lack even the barest HINT of due process! Military Court Gun Confiscation Orders would “restrain a person from possessing, receiving, or otherwise accessing a firearm.”
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:04:48 PM EDT
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Only evil men and brainwashed women don't want red flag laws.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:05:04 PM EDT
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Vaginal votes

ETA - they are bought and paid for.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:05:27 PM EDT
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I said a few years ago when they were passing these Red Flag Laws in the leftist states that they'd eventually be national. The, "Neva happun in muh free state" and "It'll never happun heya" brigade jumped all over me.

Welcome to 1930s Nazi Germany.
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LOL.... Red Flag Laws were promoted by Donald Trump and he flat out congratulated Florida's Republican Supermajority for passing it in 2018.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:05:37 PM EDT
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What the hell? This is the NDAA that they voted for and that OP linked to.......not the infrastructure bill....i'm all for holding politicians accountable....but lets not lie
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Its HR 4350 votes in that link.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:06:51 PM EDT
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I am just waiting for the Star system to come out.
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I said a few years ago when they were passing these Red Flag Laws in the leftist states that they'd eventually be national. The, "Neva happun in muh free state" and "It'll never happun heya" brigade jumped all over me.

Welcome to 1930s Nazi Germany.


I am just waiting for the Star system to come out.


I, for one, do not want the borg to discover earth...
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:07:02 PM EDT
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Only evil men and brainwashed women don't want red flag laws.
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Why?

Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:07:08 PM EDT
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It's in a defense bill, because gun owners are their enemy.
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Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:08:20 PM EDT
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America is in a race to the bottom.

The left will always win.
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Because the left constantly uses the premise of benevolence to hide behind while they’re completely draconian.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:08:21 PM EDT
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I'm sure every one of us knows people who would happily report us to the state for wrongthink or having hurt their feelings at some point.  
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:08:48 PM EDT
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I wonder how much they got paid.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:09:56 PM EDT
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Wanna know how I know you didn't read the article?

And that isn't the end of it, H.R. 4350 (FY22 National Defense Authorization Act) has funding for Military Court Gun Confiscation Orders, gun confiscation directed at those serving in the U.S. Armed Forced. These orders lack even the barest HINT of due process! Military Court Gun Confiscation Orders would “restrain a person from possessing, receiving, or otherwise accessing a firearm.”
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there is no mention of guns beyond procurement

there is no mention of the word confiscation

there is no mention of red flag laws

none of that in what you linked....not saying it isn't somewhere but it isn't in what you linked....are you talking about the "military court protective orders?"
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:11:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:12:57 PM EDT
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Only a few more steps before you're a white republican voter...you've been red flagged.
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Can white Republicans really play victim when the majority of white Republican politicians helped pass it?

And people wonder why the kooky libertarians have any appeal.

Anyone emotionally attached to a party at this point is just fucking themselves.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:15:35 PM EDT
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there is no mention of guns beyond procurement

there is no mention of the word confiscation

there is no mention of red flag laws

none of that in what you linked....not saying it isn't somewhere but it isn't in what you linked....are you talking about the "military court protective orders?"
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Wanna know how I know you didn't read the article?

And that isn't the end of it, H.R. 4350 (FY22 National Defense Authorization Act) has funding for Military Court Gun Confiscation Orders, gun confiscation directed at those serving in the U.S. Armed Forced. These orders lack even the barest HINT of due process! Military Court Gun Confiscation Orders would “restrain a person from possessing, receiving, or otherwise accessing a firearm.”

there is no mention of guns beyond procurement

there is no mention of the word confiscation

there is no mention of red flag laws

none of that in what you linked....not saying it isn't somewhere but it isn't in what you linked....are you talking about the "military court protective orders?"

I'm not searching the entire NDAA but FPC is not known to be liars.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:17:27 PM EDT
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Forgot Florida had a RFL on the books. So much for the "muh free state".
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I said a few years ago when they were passing these Red Flag Laws in the leftist states that they'd eventually be national. The, "Neva happun in muh free state" and "It'll never happun heya" brigade jumped all over me.

Welcome to 1930s Nazi Germany.



Leftists states like Florida?

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/50674/Screenshot_2020-11-27_Party_control_of_F-2103371.JPG




Forgot Florida had a RFL on the books. So much for the "muh free state".

Donald Trump congratulated Florida's Republican Supermajority for passing Red Flag Orders in 2018.





Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:18:04 PM EDT
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Got some house cleaning to do down here. No surprise by a couple of the names of traitors.

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I bet all those people were voted in by "republicans" that go

"I don't know why Republicans do things the left doesn't want to do, let's just let them kill kids or they'll get mad, better become a socialist so we don't lose!"
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This would surprise anyone?
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It'll surprise and outrage the, oh, 60% of GD that is still stupid enough to think the GOP represents them.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:24:46 PM EDT
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Just knew the one eyed fool would vote for it.
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Yes, there is a public voting record.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:27:07 PM EDT
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What are you going to do- vote democrat? Throw your vote away on a 3rd party candidate?
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Keep voting Republican, they'll get it right this time




What are you going to do- vote democrat? Throw your vote away on a 3rd party candidate?


I don't vote for any of them. F them all.

But hey, keep voting for that less evil thing. It's worked so far.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:27:51 PM EDT
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@Lieh-tzu

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This guy gets it.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:28:21 PM EDT
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So $10 million of our money to buy other peoples gun and crush them. Real smart Pirate Dan, real fucking smart. Mike McCaul is my rep and he's a huge GOP fundraiser and his dumb ass voted for it too. They want us disarmed bc they know we've figured out the scam.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:28:45 PM EDT
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Get right with God. Spend time with your family. Get in shape. Enjoy things while you can.

It won't be long now.
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I'm not searching the entire NDAA but FPC is not known to be liars.
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Wanna know how I know you didn't read the article?

And that isn't the end of it, H.R. 4350 (FY22 National Defense Authorization Act) has funding for Military Court Gun Confiscation Orders, gun confiscation directed at those serving in the U.S. Armed Forced. These orders lack even the barest HINT of due process! Military Court Gun Confiscation Orders would “restrain a person from possessing, receiving, or otherwise accessing a firearm.”

there is no mention of guns beyond procurement

there is no mention of the word confiscation

there is no mention of red flag laws

none of that in what you linked....not saying it isn't somewhere but it isn't in what you linked....are you talking about the "military court protective orders?"

I'm not searching the entire NDAA but FPC is not known to be liars.



CTRL F and search for keywords.....it ain't hard....and anyway yes it is the military court protective orders.....specifically a UCMJ action and has no effect on the general populace....it's still bullshit and unconstitutional as hell but not exactly what is being claimed
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 6:31:22 PM EDT
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Gynocentric social order > US Constitution.
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"Republicans" in liberal states or most liberal areas of even red states are just a bit more right of the extreme left socialists.

Kind of like how everytime someone here starts spouting liberal talking points they're from NY, WA, CA, MA etc...

They say "hey guys there are still good conservatives here." A conservative to them just votes for left leaning shit a few years after the left wants something.

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Even Rep. Matt Gaetz voted in support of it.




I will talk to him in person on October 2nd.
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