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Posted: 2/13/2023 4:41:35 PM EDT
New case from north Dakota!
Attached File When More Than Half the States Sue the ATF Over the Pistol Brace Rule ETA: for those asking, texas is filing their own lawsuit with the GOA |
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Quoted: If you watch the vid he lists them on the screen and reads them off one by one View Quote ---- I skimmed on mute and found the screenshot. Attached File |
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My AG is awesome. I really, REALLY hope that he does not run for Senate and that he stays in that office as I think long-term he'd be more effective there.
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Quoted: Quoted: If you watch the vid he lists them on the screen and reads them off one by one Just read the complaint instead of giving these idiot you tube asshats clicks. https://www.doj.nh.gov/news/2023/documents/20230210-complaint-c1.pdf |
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I wish NV was on the list but lib transplants have fucked us.
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Quoted: Here's the list. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/446382/0AF0A9D6-7EEB-4EC1-B08D-9F722BDD806A_jpe-2709806.JPG View Quote Finally Myreas does something. Thought for a min Red Herring was still AG in Va in regards to guns. |
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I listed to that earlier today and LOVED it.
These forums are interesting as you never know who is reading what. I loved how it specifically went into the SB Mini issue...I posted several pics on that issue specifically about how there is an approval letter for the SB Mini, AND how the ATF gave a specific example (with picture) of how a weapon with an SB Mini is NOT an SBR as late as June of 2021, only for them to flip-flop and say that somehow it always was an SBR. FATF |
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Are they seeking an injunction against the enforcement of the ban, while the suit is adjudicated?
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Quoted: Ok, thanks. I will watch tonight. ---- I skimmed on mute and found the screenshot. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/image__4__png-2709808.JPG View Quote Iowa is on a list like this FINALLY because we finally throw out our gun grabbing commie AG last election. THANK GOD |
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Quoted: Are they seeking an injunction against the enforcement of the ban, while the suit is adjudicated? View Quote Absolutely. Yes. https://www.fracaction.org/_files/ugd/054dfe_367be5523b57448ba71ce8c771e87475.pdf The complaint: https://www.fracaction.org/_files/ugd/054dfe_c1903a1ef3f84cf89c894aee5e10319c.pdf |
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Glad to see Iowa on the list with our new AG. No Texas? L O fucking L, your state needs to get its shit together.
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Quoted: Ok, thanks. I will watch tonight. ---- I skimmed on mute and found the screenshot. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/image__4__png-2709808.JPG View Quote Wtf Ohio ..... |
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Texas has our own with GOA. But seriously we need to stack up on every single suit filed Quoted: Glad to see Iowa on the list with our new AG. No Texas? L O fucking L, your state needs to get its shit together. Thanks, but ours was filed on the 9th. We also struck down the bumpstock ban. I think we’ll be ok |
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This suit was talked about in a thread started by PSA when it was filed last week. This suit is in the 8th circuit.
Texas is not a listed defendant in this case but is a listed defendant on the GOA suit that was filed in the 5th circuit, in Texas. |
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Quoted: Where the hell is Texas? Quoted: That was my question. View Quote Texas A.G. (along with the GOA) filed suit against BATFE - State of Texas Vs. AFT https://thetexan.news/texas-attorney-general-files-joint-lawsuit-with-gun-owners-of-america-against-atf/ More lawsuits are pouring in against the Biden administration’s recent decision to redefine firearms with pistol braces as short-barrelled rifles (SBR) under the National Firearms Act (NFA), with Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton and Gun Owners of America (GOA) filing a joint lawsuit seeking to block the rule. The lawsuit, State of Texas v. ATF, was filed in the Federal Southern District Court of Texas on Thursday, joining two other lawsuits filed in federal district courts in Texas. Those include a challenge filed by attorneys with the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty in the Northern District, and a challenge filed in the Eastern District by the Texas Public Policy Foundation (TPPF). GOA called their lawsuit “the most comprehensive” among those filed, writing, “Our complaint makes clear that the agency’s rule violates the Second Amendment ‘text, history and tradition’ standard set forth by the Supreme Court in its recent Bruen case.” GOA also said their case argues the rule violates several other constitutional provisions, including being an “invalid” exercise of taxing authority. Paxton also released a statement on the lawsuit, saying he is hopeful they prevail in blocking the rule. “This is yet another attempt by the Biden Administration to create a workaround to the U.S. Constitution and expand gun registration in America,” Paxton said in the release. “There is absolutely no legal basis for ATF’s haphazard decision to try to change the long-standing classification for stabilizing braces, force registration on Americans, and then throw them in jail for ten years if they don’t quickly comply. This rule is dangerous and unconstitutional, and I’m hopeful that this lawsuit will ensure that it is never allowed to take effect.” Federal officials have defended the rule, saying the decision will make communities safer. U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland said in a statement, “Keeping our communities safe from gun violence is among the Department’s highest priorities,” adding that was part of Congress’s past decision to regulate SBRs. Paxton and GOA argue a different history regarding the NFA, explaining that the original draft of the NFA intended to include handguns among the types of firearms that would be subject to heightened regulations under the act. To ensure the NFA wasn’t circumvented by simply shortening rifles and shotguns, the SBR classification was added to the legislation. However, handguns were ultimately removed from the legislation before passage while SBRs were left in place. “This makes absolutely no sense from the perspective of ‘public safety’ or common sense,” the plaintiffs wrote, “as a person can lawfully possess, without NFA registration, both a handgun (short) and rifle (long) version of the same platform firearm (such as an AR-15 or AK-47), but cannot possess a “short-barreled rifle” (medium) version of the same platform.” The lawsuit is seeking both declaratory and injunctive relief against the rule from being enforced. |
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Quoted: Where the hell is Texas? View Quote Texas filed last week alongside the GOA. Edit: Beat, redheaded, dead mule and all that..... |
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Quoted: Ok, thanks. I will watch tonight. ---- I skimmed on mute and found the screenshot. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/289319/image__4__png-2709808.JPG View Quote Thank you. I was not expecting CA, NY, Illinois, etc. But damn Maine, Vermont, NC, and Texas. Where are you? |
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I don't think this gets to court with half the states suing. AFT will rescind the brace rule; cases will be moot. They'll kick rocks and whine but in the end, what have they lost? They don't care about public opinion. Just seeing what they can get away with. Always Testing Fences.
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Quoted: Here’s the list. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/446382/0AF0A9D6-7EEB-4EC1-B08D-9F722BDD806A_jpe-2709806.JPG View Quote Oh FRAC! |
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