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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:44:20 PM EDT
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Donating to FPC is money well spent
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:44:30 PM EDT
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Destroyed mine. Will they issue a refund?
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:44:39 PM EDT
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Was just posting this.
There is a BUT...which means it only applies to the plaintiffs....for now. 
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:45:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:46:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was just posting this. There is a BUT...which means it only applies to the plaintiffs....for now. Honestly I'm kind of amazed they managed even that much. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:47:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was just posting this. There is a BUT...which means it only applies to the plaintiffs....for now. The "as to plantiffs" part means it rules in favor of the plantiffs, not just "for the plantiff" We have injuction relief too! |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:47:31 PM EDT
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Good!
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:48:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:48:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The "as to plantiffs" part means it rules in favor of the plantiffs, not just "for the plantiff" We have injuction relief too! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Was just posting this. There is a BUT...which means it only applies to the plaintiffs....for now. The "as to plantiffs" part means it rules in favor of the plantiffs, not just "for the plantiff" We have injuction relief too! I didn't know that. I've never read orders like that in that manner - interesting. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:51:22 PM EDT
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 HUGE NEWS!! Injunction Granted in Pistol Brace Case...BUT... |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:51:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Destroyed mine. Will they issue a refund? 
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:51:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The "as to plantiffs" part means it rules in favor of the plantiffs, not just "for the plantiff" We have injuction relief too! Oh nice! |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:52:05 PM EDT
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One thing I'm not sure about if this is just 5th circuit region specific.
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:52:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:53:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:54:28 PM EDT
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“Dear ATF, I’d like to unregister my freeBR. Please delete all records on your end. Kthnxbi”
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:55:13 PM EDT
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Either the NFA is the NFA or it’s not. Strike down the perfectly reasonable ATF judgement on this ( based on existing NFA guidance ) and the NFA is 100% modified to no longer include length ( at least ! ).
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:55:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The "as to plantiffs" part means it rules in favor of the plantiffs, not just "for the plantiff" We have injuction relief too! |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:56:02 PM EDT
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This is a little good news in an otherwise dreary world….
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Posted: 5/23/2023 12:59:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One thing I'm not sure about if this is just 5th circuit region specific. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:05:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It will set a precedence to expand. I would not be surprised if at least 87% of the US population including law makers/enforcers/etc... have no idea about any of this. Indeed! The firearms policy coalition is a plantiff so members should have injunction relief too. Needs alot of clarification as the extent. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:06:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Either the NFA is the NFA or it’s not. Strike down the perfectly reasonable ATF judgement on this ( based on existing NFA guidance ) and the NFA is 100% modified to no longer include length ( at least ! ). Not sure if sarcasm or retarded |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:07:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Indeed! The firearms policy coalition is a plantiff so members should have injunction relief too. Needs alot of clarification as the extent. Soooooo, I'm already a member of GOA. Sounds like I might need to join FPC soon as well. 
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:08:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Destroyed mine. Will they issue a refund? I lol'd |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:08:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was just posting this. There is a BUT...which means it only applies to the plaintiffs....for now. A precedent suits me just fine. eta: Never forget that commie-fuck Merrick was nominated to SCOTUS. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:09:49 PM EDT
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I've donated to them.......hopefully the whole pistol brace thing gets thrown out with the trash
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:10:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Soooooo, I'm already a member of GOA. Sounds like I might need to join FPC soon as well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Indeed! The firearms policy coalition is a plantiff so members should have injunction relief too. Needs alot of clarification as the extent. Soooooo, I'm already a member of GOA. Sounds like I might need to join FPC soon as well. $30 to join |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:11:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure if sarcasm or retarded Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Either the NFA is the NFA or it’s not. Strike down the perfectly reasonable ATF judgement on this ( based on existing NFA guidance ) and the NFA is 100% modified to no longer include length ( at least ! ). Not sure if sarcasm or retarded Look at who posted it. Glowing bot. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:12:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:12:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Destroyed mine. Will they issue a refund? user name checks out 
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:14:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: user name checks out
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:18:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The "as to plantiffs" part means it rules in favor of the plantiffs, not just "for the plantiff" We have injuction relief too! This should be a class action lawsuit - there would be a primary plaintiff - but all others would be part of the class. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:24:29 PM EDT
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Joined
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:25:47 PM EDT
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Engelhardt and Haynes are Bush 43 appointees.
Oldham is a Trump appointee. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:27:49 PM EDT
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Hopefully they went Full Hawaiian and it is a nationwide injunction covering everybody. One can dream...
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:27:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Destroyed mine. Will they issue a refund? Right after I get compensated for my, now destroyed, bumpstock 
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:28:11 PM EDT
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I’m just here for the fuck the atf and let’s go Brandon!!
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:29:19 PM EDT
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huh... good job FPC! I now need to join.
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:32:28 PM EDT
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ni.
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:33:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:33:52 PM EDT
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All over a device that makes pistol firing more accurate? Danger…
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:43:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All over a device that makes pistol firing more accurate? Danger… See if it is less accurate it is more dangerous because you could hit anybody. If it is more accurate it is more danger because the better chance you'll hit your target and harm/kill them. everything is more dangerous! More dangerous than what? |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:44:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure if sarcasm or retarded Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Either the NFA is the NFA or it’s not. Strike down the perfectly reasonable ATF judgement on this ( based on existing NFA guidance ) and the NFA is 100% modified to no longer include length ( at least ! ). Not sure if sarcasm or retarded We have Reagan’s NFA. Either Reagan’s NFA means something or it doesn’t. I reckon it means something to y’all’s political representatives because Trump had two years where he could have made the NFA go away. The ATF basically telling manufacturers that a lower is either a SBR lower or a Rifle lower is not the ATF overstepping their authority; it is the ATF properly enforcing Regan’s NFA ( regardless of how we feel about the NFA ). If the 5th says that the ATF is overstepping their authority then the fifth is really saying authority was overstepped in the eighty’s when Reagan signed the NFA. This would be a good thing ! But, The NFA has done nothing wrong with this brace thing and I am not retarded because the NFA does currently exist. Apologize now. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:48:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: See if it is less accurate it is more dangerous because you could hit anybody. If it is more accurate it is more danger because the better chance you'll hit your target and harm/kill them. everything is more dangerous! More dangerous than what? Diet Dr. Pepper tastes more like regular Dr. Pepper |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:50:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: See if it is less accurate it is more dangerous because you could hit anybody. If it is more accurate it is more danger because the better chance you'll hit your target and harm/kill them. everything is more dangerous! More dangerous than what? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: All over a device that makes pistol firing more accurate? Danger… See if it is less accurate it is more dangerous because you could hit anybody. If it is more accurate it is more danger because the better chance you'll hit your target and harm/kill them. everything is more dangerous! More dangerous than what? Don't forget some of their other "logic"..... tHaT bRaCe Is AdJuStAbLe, tHaT iS mOaR dAnGeRoUs!!!1!11! ThAt FoLdEr AlLoWs YoU tO fOlD tHe BrAcE oUt Of ThE wAy WhErE iT cAn'T bE uSeD aS a StOcK wHiCh Me So CoNfUsEd!!!!1!!111! |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:50:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All over a device that makes pistol firing more accurate? Danger… For disabled shooters to be able to shoot pistols. The state should issue brace certificates along with handicapped parking. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:52:25 PM EDT
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Justice.
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:52:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have Reagan’s NFA. Either Reagan’s NFA means something or it doesn’t. I reckon it means something to y’all’s political representatives because Trump had two years where he could have made the NFA go away. The ATF basically telling manufacturers that a lower is either a SBR lower or a Rifle lower is not the ATF overstepping their authority; it is the ATF properly enforcing Regan’s NFA ( regardless of how we feel about the NFA ). If the 5th says that the ATF is overstepping their authority then the fifth is really saying authority was overstepped in the eighty’s when Reagan signed the NFA. This would be a good thing ! But, The NFA has done nothing wrong with this brace thing and I am not retarded because the NFA does currently exist. Apologize now.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:57:10 PM EDT
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Winning is better than losing.
But who actually gains what from this temporary injunction? ATF is blocked from enforcing the rule on individuals but they already weren't until June 1 and the appeal will probably be ruled on in June. I guess they're temporarily blocked from enforcing against sales but how many ffls and suppliers are going to sell during an injunction of a few weeks. Remember Illinois. Don't celebrate the temporary win unwisely. Anything bought now would be illegal if the appeal goes the other way and not even eligible for a freebie. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 1:57:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have Reagan’s NFA. Either Reagan’s NFA means something or it doesn’t. I reckon it means something to y’all’s political representatives because Trump had two years where he could have made the NFA go away. The ATF basically telling manufacturers that a lower is either a SBR lower or a Rifle lower is not the ATF overstepping their authority; it is the ATF properly enforcing Regan’s NFA ( regardless of how we feel about the NFA ). If the 5th says that the ATF is overstepping their authority then the fifth is really saying authority was overstepped in the eighty’s when Reagan signed the NFA. This would be a good thing ! But, The NFA has done nothing wrong with this brace thing and I am not retarded because the NFA does currently exist. Apologize now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Either the NFA is the NFA or it’s not. Strike down the perfectly reasonable ATF judgement on this ( based on existing NFA guidance ) and the NFA is 100% modified to no longer include length ( at least ! ). Not sure if sarcasm or retarded We have Reagan’s NFA. Either Reagan’s NFA means something or it doesn’t. I reckon it means something to y’all’s political representatives because Trump had two years where he could have made the NFA go away. The ATF basically telling manufacturers that a lower is either a SBR lower or a Rifle lower is not the ATF overstepping their authority; it is the ATF properly enforcing Regan’s NFA ( regardless of how we feel about the NFA ). If the 5th says that the ATF is overstepping their authority then the fifth is really saying authority was overstepped in the eighty’s when Reagan signed the NFA. This would be a good thing ! But, The NFA has done nothing wrong with this brace thing and I am not retarded because the NFA does currently exist. Apologize now. 
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